Builds Stretched 1-Ton FJ40 (11 Viewers)

[archie73]

I’m glad to hear this as I’ve had a few different tire carrier spindles on this Cruiser and they both failed. I had a large bolt with some hokey box that I created around the last pivot point that worked for 25 years, but it looked terrible. This Ruffstuff spindle looks legit.

Where did you put your gas struts?

I had room under the swingout, so one bolts into the bumper and the other one 8” or so out on the arm. They also act as my stops, which is great on hills. These are cheapies I pulled off a car hood at the wrecking yard. The Idea was that they were an experiment and I’d replace them with new if I liked them. They still haven’t failed.

 

[Mike Shull]

My carrier latch arrived from 4xInnovations and it is stout!

I can’t quite figure out where the square rubber pad goes. Let me know your thoughts. The second picture is from their website.

Swing Out Tire Carrier Latch Assembly-1410061

www.4xinnovations.com

 

[Mike Shull]

I understand where that rubber pad goes now. I realized that the picture was taken from above the bumper looking down and that pad must go against a metal stop that I have to fabricate.

 

[klip]

That’s a cool idea for a swing out latch. Not a big fan of the little red handle over center latches. Good job!

 

[Mike Shull]

That’s a cool idea for a swing out latch. Not a big fan of the little red handle over center latches. Good job!

Thank you. I owe the credit to this amazing community as I found this latch on here. I purchased one of those flimsy red handle latches as I forgot about this one, then @DirtSniffer posted pictures of this mount and it reminded me to reconsider.

I am glad that I did. This is an amazing piece of work and sometimes it just makes sense to buy something that is engineered well, especially at $85.

I will finish the latch and build some sort of bumps and pads at a later time to secure it better. Here is a video of it roughed in.

Note that there are only two bolts holding the bumper on and I don’t have my supports in behind the bumper, which is contributing to the movement.

 

[Ditcherman]

I understand where that rubber pad goes now. I realized that the picture was taken from above the bumper looking down and that pad must go against a metal stop that I have to fabricate.

You’ve probably figured it out, but keeps from metal on metal, allow metal on rubber and a bit of tension on the latch mechanism.

Thank you. I owe the credit to this amazing community as I found this latch on here. I purchased one of those flimsy red handle latches as I forgot about this one, then @DirtSniffer posted pictures of this mount and it reminded me to reconsider.

I am glad that I did. This is an amazing piece of work and sometimes it just makes sense to buy something that is engineered well, especially at $85.

I will finish the latch and build some sort of bumps and pads at a later time to secure it better. Here is a video of it roughed in.

Note that there are only two bolts holding the bumper on and I don’t have my supports in behind the bumper, which is contributing to the movement.

thanks for the vid!
I really like the latch I have on my tundra, but it’s one bar, full width, and I’m planning two shorter swing outs and don’t have the room for my old latch on this. I’ll give this a close look.

Waaaay back in the day on the overland forum people were having their cheap latches open and break, which I thought was ridiculous and I did a write up on the one in my tundra. It’s done well but this one checks all the boxes, from a structural and securement perspective.

 

[DirtSniffer]

Thank you. I owe the credit to this amazing community as I found this latch on here. I purchased one of those flimsy red handle latches as I forgot about this one, then @DirtSniffer posted pictures of this mount and it reminded me to reconsider.

I am glad that I did. This is an amazing piece of work and sometimes it just makes sense to buy something that is engineered well, especially at $85.

I will finish the latch and build some sort of bumps and pads at a later time to secure it better. Here is a video of it roughed in.

Note that there are only two bolts holding the bumper on and I don’t have my supports in behind the bumper, which is contributing to the movement.

Love it! I'm glad I changed my mind and went with that latch too. It's pretty slick. Spring 25% off sale for metal is on so I am putting in an order today for my frame materials and should hopefully be playing with mine soon as well!

 

[Mike Shull]

You’ve probably figured it out, but keeps from metal on metal, allow metal on rubber and a bit of tension on the latch mechanism.

I did figure out how the pad was intended to be installed and I’ll have to make my own mount and potentially modify the pad a bit to fit.

Do you still have that writeup posted? If so post a link. I’d like to take a look.

Love it! I'm glad I changed my mind and went with that latch too. It's pretty slick. Spring 25% off sale for metal is on so I am putting in an order today for my frame materials and should hopefully be playing with mine soon as well!

I will be following along! How exciting!!

 

[Ditcherman]

I did figure out how the pad was intended to be installed and I’ll have to make my own mount and potentially modify the pad a bit to fit.

Do you still have that writeup posted? If so post a link. I’d like to take a look.

Not all that much to see but here ya go. I posted it up after reading so many coming open with cheap latches.
Link for the latch seems to still work.
Guessing some here may feel dirty by clicking an "overland" link. I'd do it again though.

Stop Screwing around with your swing out carrier latch!

Saw a couple of IG posts concerning a broken swing away tire latch and the field fix. I would like to recommend to anyone building or repairing one of these to STOP screwing around with the De-Sta-Co latches and drop a hundred dollar bill on this one - 75134957 - this should be a link to the...

www.overlandbound.com

 

[Mike Shull]

I’m doing a quick test for before proceeding.

 

[Mike Shull]

It’s going a bit slower today but I am happy with the progress.

 

[Broski]

IMO the bottom bar is to small for a 40” tire
You going to have a lot of flex which leds to fatigue and breakage.
I built one very similar and it flexed like crazy with a 33” tire and none bead lock wheel.

 

[Mike Shull]

IMO the bottom bar is to small for a 40” tire
You going to have a lot of flex which leds to fatigue and breakage.
I built one very similar and it flexed like crazy with a 33” tire and none bead lock wheel.

What size do you recommend? This is 1-3/4 tube.

 

[Firemedic831]

I would gusset to the spindle kinda like you did on your cage . putting the tire on should be fun

 

[Ditcherman]

What size do you recommend? This is 1-3/4 tube.

What wall thickness?

 

[Mike Shull]

I would gusset to the spindle kinda like you did on your cage . putting the tire on should be fun

That’s a good idea. I didn’t leave much room between the spindle and the license plate bracket but I bet that I can come up with something.

What wall thickness?

It’s .120 DOM.

 

[Ditcherman]

That’s a good idea. I didn’t leave much room between the spindle and the license plate bracket but I bet that I can come up with something.



It’s .120 DOM.

Sounds thin to this farm boy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m well over 6k on my build.

Mount a tire up and shake the snot out of it, see what you think about it then add bounce, momentum, and age. #trustthescience

 

[Broski]

What size do you recommend? This is 1-3/4 tube.

I would use some rectangular tube preferably the same height as the spindle sleeve and wide enough to make it to the center point of the sleeve. 2x4" 3/16 wall ?
The tire is basically hanging off the back creating a twisting force to the bottom tube of the carrier, gussets well only help side to side movement.

 

[Ditcherman]

This is 1.5x3 IIRC, and probably 1/4” on a 2” shaft, tapped on the bottom for a brace that runs diagonally to the frame, because the 1/4” wall bumper wasn’t strong enough IMO. Doesn’t wiggle.

 

[Mike Shull]

Thanks for the input. At this point it seems to make the most sense to run with this and see what happens. I will see what I can do to splice another gusset between the spindle sleeve and the hoop, and somehow through the license plate bracket.