Maximum legal limits are 8'-6" x 14', but many states are 13'-6". So you should be good.
Shop Build. Finally Broke Ground.
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A few more pieces to the puzzle. Erectors are pretty much finished. Drive doors are scheduled to be installed next week, along with the stone. That should more or less complete the exterior. We still need to do the barn loft door and cupolas, but those are mostly for esthetics. Maybe some slight ventilation.
Rear porch was just poured.
5000g tank almost ready for burial. This was a lot more complicated than I thought. Well pump feeds tank, then three outlets to submerged pumps. One to feed the shop, one to the future house, and then one to a high volume irrigation/fire suppression system.
First fire in the upstairs insert. We won't have the HVAC system up and running until December at best so between this fireplace and the wood boiler, that will be key to keeping temps above 55* for drywall finish and painting.
Wood boiler for the radiant system. Have a 500g thermal storage tank arriving next week. Then we can finish the radiant system.
One of the radiant manifolds almost finished. Glad to see sweating copper pipe is not a lost art quite yet.
Just purchased a business that came with these N2O and O2 tanks. They were owned and not rented so hopefully I can trade them in for 2 tanks of C25 and 2 tanks or Argon. I think they are 300 cubic foot tanks. If the welding supply company won't take them, a few tanks are still full so maybe a bit of tannerite and a long range rifle in the desert at 800+ yards may be interesting with the O2 tank.
One more load of wood to feed the boiler. These were some pretty large rounds. Even the 36" bar didn't fully cut through a few.
Rough in inspection is next week, then we can insulate and drywall. Once the drive doors are installed, we should be weathertight just in time for late fall/early winter.
Rear porch was just poured.
5000g tank almost ready for burial. This was a lot more complicated than I thought. Well pump feeds tank, then three outlets to submerged pumps. One to feed the shop, one to the future house, and then one to a high volume irrigation/fire suppression system.
First fire in the upstairs insert. We won't have the HVAC system up and running until December at best so between this fireplace and the wood boiler, that will be key to keeping temps above 55* for drywall finish and painting.
Wood boiler for the radiant system. Have a 500g thermal storage tank arriving next week. Then we can finish the radiant system.
One of the radiant manifolds almost finished. Glad to see sweating copper pipe is not a lost art quite yet.
Just purchased a business that came with these N2O and O2 tanks. They were owned and not rented so hopefully I can trade them in for 2 tanks of C25 and 2 tanks or Argon. I think they are 300 cubic foot tanks. If the welding supply company won't take them, a few tanks are still full so maybe a bit of tannerite and a long range rifle in the desert at 800+ yards may be interesting with the O2 tank.
One more load of wood to feed the boiler. These were some pretty large rounds. Even the 36" bar didn't fully cut through a few.
Rough in inspection is next week, then we can insulate and drywall. Once the drive doors are installed, we should be weathertight just in time for late fall/early winter.
I still goes against my logical side to see such intense heat in such close proximity to combustible materials. On the other hand I did buy one 2 days ago and the freight company delivered it yesterday. Turning the 2 car garage into a large tv room and need to get this setup in a few days. The job is tearing me up physically. This was something we talked about for decades. There comes a time in life when you need to learn sit this one out… I’ve never figured that part out.
That place you’re building is gorgeous…good luck enjoying it
That place you’re building is gorgeous…good luck enjoying it
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I felt the same way when I first fired up the stove! I spent 2 hours there with an IR thermometer and fire extinguisher to make sure everything was safe. Those zero clearance units are pretty well insulated and with the fire really going, I could easily touch any part of the unit and the flue. Still a strange feeling to see a burning stove surrounded by wood.
We sure think alike… I have my 5lb fire extinguishers ready and new batteries for the temp gun. Nice to hear your ’test results’ are good.
You mentioned your garage doors are being installed shortly. This may or may not be helpful but…. My 18’ door was great and the new garage door opener is attached to the torsion spring rod. Within 2 weeks, the coupler let loose and when to door went up, it did so cocked to one side and jammed. Too heavy to move so I had to wait for a service call a few day later.
Messed up the 19’ torsion rod but the biggest takeaway from that event was the there is a very specific spring winding count before the coupler is locked down.
For mine it was 9.6 turns. I made a record of it in case I may ever need it again. Not my intention of repairing this kinda thing but knowing this makes my imagination feel more secure. They also told me that no one ever lubricates that spring up top and it is a good maintenance tip to spray it every 6 months to a year with a garage door lube
You mentioned your garage doors are being installed shortly. This may or may not be helpful but…. My 18’ door was great and the new garage door opener is attached to the torsion spring rod. Within 2 weeks, the coupler let loose and when to door went up, it did so cocked to one side and jammed. Too heavy to move so I had to wait for a service call a few day later.
Messed up the 19’ torsion rod but the biggest takeaway from that event was the there is a very specific spring winding count before the coupler is locked down.
For mine it was 9.6 turns. I made a record of it in case I may ever need it again. Not my intention of repairing this kinda thing but knowing this makes my imagination feel more secure. They also told me that no one ever lubricates that spring up top and it is a good maintenance tip to spray it every 6 months to a year with a garage door lube
I had never heard this before, but it makes sense.
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Exterior is pretty much done! Stone added a nice touch. Still need to do some 4" black trim around the doors/windows and 6" trim on the upper windows. Light fixtures need to be hung as well.
It's nice to have the shop weather proof and secure. We can start staging more materials inside as we finish that. We still need to install the door openers, but they aren't too bad to open by hand.
Hard to believe that we were just clearing ground exactly 1 year ago.
It's nice to have the shop weather proof and secure. We can start staging more materials inside as we finish that. We still need to install the door openers, but they aren't too bad to open by hand.
Hard to believe that we were just clearing ground exactly 1 year ago.
Are these stone or stone veneer panels? That looks terrific. Colors all blend nicely. My 18’ door would open well with the spring assist but when I added the torsion bar motor lift remote, it was too easy to press the button and up it goes. This entire project is gorgeous
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Thanks! Individual real stone veneers. Around 1.5" thick. Hoping the interior finishes well too. It's definitely not easy trying to determine several thousand SF of exterior finish off of several square inches of sample patches, but we are pretty happy with how everything turned out.
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Still making progress on the inside of the living area, but drywall and insulation photos are not very exciting. I'll post up more interior pictures once the drywall is finished and flooring and tile are going in.
Its been over 12 months since we applied for power service, and between the local power company and the USFS, there has been a lot of pointless back and forth, as well as routing changes. It looks like our only option is to go underground 800' with primary, then either pad or vault mounted transformer on our property, then secondary runs to the shop and future main house. I have a tentatively approved power route so looks like I better start trenching. Primary wire trench has to be 60" deep, with 42" of that being sand (12" below conduit, 30" above).
This makes keeping adequate temperatures for drywall tape/mud/finish pretty difficult. We are hoping to set up the wood boiler for the radiant next week and run the circ pumps (1 amp draw each) off of a solar/battery setup. It should be able to keep the upstairs at least 55*.
Been eyeing some equipment for a while. Figured might as well get it now so I can start trenching and tackle some additional landscaping/clearing. I've run skid steers before, but not a 100hp one. It's strong. Mini ex took a little getting used to, but after 2 hours of seat time, I could grub and stack a large sagebrush/bitterbush in a few minutes. I will say the enclosed, positive pressure cabs with heat/AC are so worth it! Thanks @1911 and @ceylonfj40nut for suggesting the 97 over the 65 or 75 on the skid steer.
Its been over 12 months since we applied for power service, and between the local power company and the USFS, there has been a lot of pointless back and forth, as well as routing changes. It looks like our only option is to go underground 800' with primary, then either pad or vault mounted transformer on our property, then secondary runs to the shop and future main house. I have a tentatively approved power route so looks like I better start trenching. Primary wire trench has to be 60" deep, with 42" of that being sand (12" below conduit, 30" above).
This makes keeping adequate temperatures for drywall tape/mud/finish pretty difficult. We are hoping to set up the wood boiler for the radiant next week and run the circ pumps (1 amp draw each) off of a solar/battery setup. It should be able to keep the upstairs at least 55*.
Been eyeing some equipment for a while. Figured might as well get it now so I can start trenching and tackle some additional landscaping/clearing. I've run skid steers before, but not a 100hp one. It's strong. Mini ex took a little getting used to, but after 2 hours of seat time, I could grub and stack a large sagebrush/bitterbush in a few minutes. I will say the enclosed, positive pressure cabs with heat/AC are so worth it! Thanks @1911 and @ceylonfj40nut for suggesting the 97 over the 65 or 75 on the skid steer.
With that much trench probably should get a much narrower bucket unless you already got one. Would love to have both the track loader and hoe.
My neighbor has that skid steer. He stopped by last week and noticed a tree was precariously close to the power line. Tackled that in 11 seconds.
Gorgeous machine!
Gorgeous machine!
I have a JD 331G with the mulcher and brush cutter, tree puller and pallet forks. It has cut down on my tractor time significantly. Having used a mini -ex a few times I agree with @Waorani and you may want to invest in narrow bucket.
Having lived in area rich with sage I was always curious how the mulcher would work clearing it. I do think it would be pretty effective.
Thanks for posting, with all the trenching we will doing with the new house build it will be nice to have one. Especially with planned garden, wife’s greenhouse, power and water to barn, the list goes on and on!
Just had front pond rebuilt and enlarged. Guys dropped excavator off first than brought the dozer. Told me feel free to use the excavator if I wanted and like a dumbass I didn’t take time to play.
Having lived in area rich with sage I was always curious how the mulcher would work clearing it. I do think it would be pretty effective.
Thanks for posting, with all the trenching we will doing with the new house build it will be nice to have one. Especially with planned garden, wife’s greenhouse, power and water to barn, the list goes on and on!
Just had front pond rebuilt and enlarged. Guys dropped excavator off first than brought the dozer. Told me feel free to use the excavator if I wanted and like a dumbass I didn’t take time to play.
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I think the 331G is similar in size to the SVL 97.
Yes, the mini ex came with 12" and 24" trenching buckets with teeth. The 36" grading bucket does not like to dig very deep, but seems to work well with grubbing. I am going to do a little test trenching today with the other buckets.
I had the same temptation when initial grading for the shop was done. Grading contractor had some huge machines on the property and told me where he leaves the keys. He said I could play around with them, but "If I break it I buy it." I was too afraid of the big excavator.
Now with a little seat time in an excavator, I'd probably give it a go if they bring it back for digging the pad on the main house. That thing picks up car sized boulders like nothing!
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2 scoops with that and you have a pond!
The 331G lack just a little HP. Kubota is great machine and is what I preferred but the JD was around $10,000 less. I’ve always been a kubota owner, this is my first JD and it’s been a good experience. I have a large and smaller kubota tractor here in the farm. I do like the door on yours when compared to mine.
Pretty embarrassing when I jumped in skid steer in my boxers, t shirt and flip flops with mulcher. Things you wouldnt do without cab!
Top of tree fell in front of the cab trapping me with the swing out door. Thankfully I was able to do some creative techniques to get it removed without calling for help.
I wouldn’t hire myself out for work on the skid steer but after a couple hundred hours I think I fix more than I destroy so that’s a positive!
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I foresee some early morning snow blowing in pajamas and slippers thanks to the cab and heat.
Any "must have" or favorite attachments for the skid steer? It came with an 84" bucket, and I bought an 84" snowblower. I thought about a brush cutter, but our soil is pretty rocky and we have mostly sagebrush, which is easy enough to just pluck out. Might do a log/root grapple for brush removal, and when I bring it up to a friend's timber property to move logs around.
I’ve found tree puller very handy for small stuff and can be used to grab rocks.
The grapple is very nice especially moving trash, trees and boulders.
The pallet forks are worth their money everyday. If you have gravel road to the house which is affected by snow and melt every year like ours was in Steamboat, consider a leveler. It helps repurpose gravel that gets pushed to the sides. Crowns road and helps fill in pot holes.
I spent several hours in steamboat on our big cabbed tractor with 96” PTO driven snowblower. Prior to that I had old bobcat skid steer i used with hydraulic blower. It was little narrow for length of my drive and lacked a front door which took fun out of it. Both worked well. The hydraulic is better heavy snow or spring stuff as you won’t shear pics, only hiccup I ever had was if we picked up a rock.
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Forgot about pallet forks. Going to get those ASAP as I need to move around a bunch of construction stuff on pallets.
Do you have a dedicated pallet fork attachment or the clip on type like these? I've run those before and they do ok, sometimes they get a little sideways but the option with the lateral stabilizer looks like it should take care of that issue.
Heavy-Duty 60" Clamp-on Pallet Forks - 47" x 4" Fork Length - Optional Adjustable Stabilizer Bar - Rated 6,000 LB - Easy to Install on Loader or Skid Steer Bucket | Titan Attachments
The 60" x 4" Heavy-Duty Clamp-On Pallet Forks slide over the cutting edge of your bucket and clamp down, locking the unit in place.
palletforks.com
I prefer dedicated fork attachment. Able to load and visualize easier especially if working in shop.
Dedicated attachment can also used on small tractor smaller things. My shop floor is finished so prefer to use small tractor to move things around inside.
Dedicated attachment can also used on small tractor smaller things. My shop floor is finished so prefer to use small tractor to move things around inside.
