4" rough country lift is more like 7" ???

[nickswan]

Houston, we have a very tall problem...

Looks like rough country's 4" lift is more like 7"

I've now got an 86" fj40 in an 82" garage

And my shackles are way too long not helping things. They are 5.5" eye to eye, I didn't think stock shackles would fit with the large eyes. Any ideas?

Even if I went with 2.5" eye to eye it would only drop 1.5" I need it like 4.5" lower. Will this thing settle if I take it around the block a few times?

 

[Slowerthanu]

You could build your own shackles.

These vehicles have sagged a great deal over the years, so 4 inches will not be accurate.

It will settle but not as much as you are hoping for.

 

[TLC76]

With the truck being taller than your door opening you will have to give it more throttle than normal when backing out.

 

[71FJ40]

Just get smaller wheels/tires

 

[FJsnoozer]

If you start loading it up with weight, will it get low enough to back out? Based on that rear shackle angle, it seems like it should drop a bit or maybe it is binding

 

[dohcdelsol93]

i've got 4" lift springs on the rear of my 40 with stock shackles and they sit way lower than your rig.

you still have your stock shackles laying around?

 

[nickswan]

i dont, in fact the shackles the PO put on there are even bigger...

i think i will take these shackles and drill a new hole at the stock length and cut the extra material instead of paying another $150.

 

[Fast Eddy]

i think i will take these shackles and drill a new hole at the stock length and cut the extra material instead of paying another $150.

Not a bad idea, but you'll have to recoat or repaint the exposed metal.

Are you sure you didn't overtighten the top bolts making it so the springs could not settle when you dropped it back down? How does it ride?

If possible load something heavy into the back and see what happens, like a small block or a pallet-full of concrete sacks.

 

[95LCMachine]

If you need to get it out of the garage air down...

 

[nickswan]

i don't think even if i let all the air out of these tires i could get it out. its stuck until i re-drill these shackles. the plan is to drill new holes at stock length 2.75 inches eye to eye and remove the remaining material. its all new bushings and i greased em all up so i dont think its binding, ive only done the rear suspension, and plan to get that straight before i do the front. i had to reuse alot of the old hardware, ubolts, etc the new ubolts were ridiculously long for some reason. the shackle angle really concerns me and i dont want it to invert and destroy these new springs. ill check and see if i cranked the upper bolts down like a gorilla, but i usually dont torque things down until everything is done.

 

[Fast Eddy]

i don't think even if i let all the air out of these tires i could get it out. its stuck until i re-drill these shackles. the plan is to drill new holes at stock length 2.75 inches eye to eye and remove the remaining material. its all new bushings and i greased em all up so i dont think its binding, ive only done the rear suspension, and plan to get that straight before i do the front.

But you're not sure? Measure twice, cut once.

Lifting the front will bring down the rear at the edge of the top.

If you got 7" of lift, it is definitely going to settle some when you drive it.

Take off the wheels and roll it out of the door on the floor jack, then drive it around the block and see where you end up before you start cutting.

I'm not saying you aren't going to have to drop it some at the shackles, but it's going to suck balls if you drop it more than you need. In the end you might want to leave the material at the bottom of the shackle in case it settles over a couple months and with some articulation.

 

[bsevans]

If you just want to get it out of the garage, then take the top down and put the windshield on the hood. Reassemble after it is out of the garage. Your shackles are too long and I would expect you will find out what the death wobble feels like when you drive it unless you have corrected the angle with shims. I realize the added cost of new shackles, but the 4+Plus GSK Super Heavy Duty Greasable Anti-Inversion Shackles are available in 3.5" pin to pin. The front and rear set would set you back $210 plus the ride from MAF. I have a set front and rear and feel they are worth it.

 

[Sea Knight]

the 4+Plus GSK Super Heavy Duty Greasable Anti-Inversion Shackles are available in 3.5" pin to pin. The front and rear set would set you back $210 plus the ride from MAF. I have a set front and rear and feel they are worth it.

I agree that 4+ GSK shackles are (were) the best available, but unfortunately Dave isn't building any more of them and they no longer appear on MAF's web site.

 

[Jeffrey Davis]

I recently installed the 2.5-inch lift, Dakar Old Man Emu springs and had the same problem. The new springs initially gave me about 4 inches of lift and had to use a pole to prop the garage door fully open to get the cruiser out. The springs settled approximately 2-inches in a couple days. Your springs should settle some, but probably not as much as you would like. You could lower it several inches by installing stock shackles. Cruiser Outfitters sells them $16.50ea.

 

[camcruiser13]

Say no to the greasable shackles.

Also those shackles are way to long IMHO

Throw 300+ pounds in the rear and take it out on a trail. Let it relax a bit.

Air down to 3 or 4 psi and you'll get out

 

[Rockets2000]

You could trade springs with this guy....

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/526366-rear-sag-new-4-lift.html

 

[fromme]

If those springs are like the ones I just took off, they are going to be too short with longer than stock shackles. Your shackle angle will be all wrong and it will ride like poop. You are light like me with the soft top and no spare or rear bumper. I would remove a leaf from the spring packs and go from there.

 

[splib]

Say no to the greasable shackles.

Also those shackles are way to long IMHO

Throw 300+ pounds in the rear and take it out on a trail. Let it relax a bit.

Air down to 3 or 4 psi and you'll get out

X2. And get yourself a bigger floor jack!

 

[nickswan]

X2. And get yourself a bigger floor jack!

Lol, that's just for compressing the leafs to install, I use two high-lifts for the heavy work.

I checked the shackle bolts they aren't even tight, I'll let it sit a day or two and then ratchet it down and air down to get it out and flex it a bit.

I agree on the shackles, wish I went with the stock length anti inversion from $OR.

 

[bsevans]

Say no to the greasable shackles.

I'm so tired of this crap about greasable shackles. If you had bought a quality product in the first place your shackle would not have broken. Show me one person who has broken a 4+ greasable shackle. I challenged you on this over a year ago with no response, yet you keep posting the same message like all greasable shackles have the same strength.