A New 80 v 100 thread

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I had this debate with myself for quite a while as well. I went with the 80 because I was looking for a kick ass trail vehicle that I could also drive on the highway. For me, trail capability was way more important than road capability. I have a car for when I need a comfy road machine. Funny part is that I drive the 80 WAY more just because I love it...the Mercedes sits in the garage most days.
 
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In all seriousness, it is good to know that it isn't a maintenance nightmare. I need a fun daily driver that I can do whatever I want in not a perma-project car.

Then do yourself a favor, close this page, lose the link and never come back here again. Owners here do the silliest things, attempt to make everything a major production, a perma-project is seemingly the goal for most here!:hillbilly:
 
I don't know how deep your pockets are but, there are companies out there that will do whatever level of restoration you want done to the "restorable" 80 you take to them or you could just look into buying one that they have already done. These restos can be very spendy if you go the full frame off, bolt by bolt route but, in my imagination, it could mean the best of both worlds because you would end up with a brand new 80 that packs the engine and tranny you want along with whatever other upgrades and modifications that shop offers.
 
Drive both...all these words will make much more sense.
 
Depends on your definition of broken :)

Exactly, dude, you have no idea! The mantra is "if it aint broke, keep "fixin" till it is"! Things like; ritualistic, mostly unneeded, head gaskets, axle rebuilds, "baselining", etc, if you haven't fondled your special hose, your not one of the men. It all has to be done by the holy book, using blessed parts, except when it is not. From what I can find there is no decoder ring, most often you post up, I got the blessed parts and installed to the word of the book, only to find that its all wrong! Oh no, need to rip it out, get some obscure, mostly from far away place, widgets, and have some complicated fiddly installation ceremony.

From my observation, this likely involves significant mental illness, one of the reasons often cited for this silliness is; finding a piece of mind! You seem like a pretty fart smeller, there is likely still time to save yourself, by getting out NOW!
 
Every time this debate comes up (and it has been debated more recently than your original comment indicates), I say go 4th gen 4runner or GX470. IMO the 100 serves no purpose in comparison to those two vehicles other than what mudders refer to as being "overbuilt." As far as I can fathom, "overbuilt" actually means "heavier than necessary."

If you want an 80 because your inner 12-year old thinks it's cool, then get the 80 and stop trying to justify it. I bought two 60-series for this exact reason :eek:

My $.02 and you got it for free!
 
Spd11, If you can read a factory service manual, you'll be able to do most, if not all of the repair's on your truck yourself. Luckily for most Mud members, the 80 series truck doesn't require a Snap On truck worth of special tools to maintain it. But one very important point to keep in mine, the newest of these trucks sold in the states is now 20 years old, and the last of the 80 series trucks to rolled off of the production line, was made in South America 10 years ago. So Toyota has now starting to tell some of their parts suppliers to stop making replacement parts for these trucks. As time goes by, more, and more parts for these trucks will then become NLA from Toyota. Now you may ask what difference does that make to me. Most Mud members, myself included, think that using factory parts is the best way to maintain them, and it shows, because more then one member here has gotten 3, to 400 thousand miles out of their truck by using factory parts! Just something to think about before you choose, but if it were me, I'd still say what the hell, I'd go with the 80 over the 100.
 
I agree with everything above, except the 4Skin . . . err, 4Runner comment!

I've had an 80, and still have a 105series perma-project in the garage (I broke it pretty good).

I still miss the 80, the 105 is easier/softer/ more comfortable to drive (100 series even more so), the 100/105 is slightly bigger inside and out, has more creature comforts etc

the 80 is arguably the last of the real 4x4 built by TOYOTA

I miss the 105 too, it does everything the 80 did, or could do, but with a bit more room, and more comfort. (i'm tipping that if you fit in a S2000, room for the driver is not really a big consideration for you. I physically cant get in the driver seat of an S2000)
 
Drive both...all these words will make much more sense.

Or, if you want to end up with an 80, don't drive both so you don't know what you're missing! (that's what I did)
 
4Runners are a little too expensive for what they are in my book. I'd rather something that depreciates a little more than that even if the 4Runner hasn't depreciated because it's a great vehicle.

Creature comforts aren't important to me above a very low baseline that I am certain the 80 and 100 both meet. I've been in both vehicles but I haven't driven either - something that needs to change. I'm more concerned with which will be closer to bulletproof than which has more cup holders.

The V8 in the 100 sounds like it would naturally be more work than an inline 6 especially since toyota had nearly perfected their inline 6 by 1997. I'm not largely concerned about which has marginally more power. A while back I had a Cayenne S - tons of power/way too expensive to maintain - and I've come to realize that it doesn't matter how fast your truck is it won't be a 911 (or an Evo @Lumpskie).
 
I don't know about your market, but I consistently see 4th gen 4runners around $8000-10000 in the local CL. That's on par with an 80 in similar shape, but for a vehicle half the age.
 
I have a better idea....buy an FJ40, FJ80, AND a 100 series. :cool: The toughest decision every day is which one to drive.
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I have both. Currently have an lx450 and sokd my 100. I love the lx

But...forced to choose... my 100 was way better for me as i dont wheel either.
 
The V8 in the 100 sounds like it would naturally be more work than an inline 6 especially since toyota had nearly perfected their inline 6 by 1997.@Lumpskie).
Not many Toyota inline sixes went this far

 
ok, ok. The FJ40 has the cool factor, is super easy to work on, and bonus that top and doors come off, BUT top speed is 50mph comfortably. The kids wanted an 80, and my son thinks it is cooler than the LX470. But the LX470 is 1000% superior to the 80 as far as refinement and comfort go. I typically drive the LX470 to work every day due to all highway. Son drives the 40 or 80 depending on his mood or weather. I drive the 80 to tool around cutting lawns around town, and drive the 40 to the grocery store or when I want to listen to the Cincinnati Reds on the AM radio with one speaker. ahhhh, nostalgia.
 
ok, ok. The FJ40 has the cool factor, is super easy to work on, and bonus that top and doors come off, BUT top speed is 50mph comfortably. The kids wanted an 80, and my son thinks it is cooler than the LX470. But the LX470 is 1000% superior to the 80 as far as refinement and comfort go. I typically drive the LX470 to work every day due to all highway. Son drives the 40 or 80 depending on his mood or weather. I drive the 80 to tool around cutting lawns around town, and drive the 40 to the grocery store or when I want to listen to the Cincinnati Reds on the AM radio with one speaker. ahhhh, nostalgia.


If your top speed is 50 sounds like your 40 needs a 5 speed. My dads with the H55F 5 speed can cruise at 70-75 all day long. Driving it at 70 though is defiantly a full time job and definitely not what it was designed to do.

Guess all the Cruisers have there own time and place
 

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