what's the shipping on those tires?
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what's the shipping on those tires?
Damn! You've put some trail miles behind you. Good stuff. I was in Lockhart Canyon two weeks ago and thought about coming out via Hurrah but being only 1 vehicle and 285's with 2.5 ome, I did't want to risk it. Does the stretch from Lockhart to Hurrah require a set up like you have or it is not too bad? Thanks
Beat me to it. I was gonna say that I had to fly people out to even hang out with me :*(
I'm feeling lazy. Need to get new tires for both 80s. For 16" wheels what size is about 33". Is it 275/70r16?
Trying to decide which tire to run as well. Don't want a mud terrain. Want something that is good in the snow, good in dirt/mud, good on road. I've heard the Duratracs and Cooper ST Max (?).
BFGoodrich in a TA/KO is a great tire if you aren't going to run mud tires. The sidewalls are incredibly tough for an all-terrain tire, they are quiet on the road, good on any surface and I got 60,000 miles out of mine.
It's mind blowing how many people still think that AWD or 4 wheel drive somehow helps the vehicle stop in slippery conditions over other vehicles. While not for my 80 series I have a set of dedicated snow and ice tires mounted on extra wheels for both my car and my wife's. Mind you they are both AWD. It took a little to convince her of the need even on her AWD CRV until she saw how well my car would stop and turn in the snow.I once had a conversation with a car salesman that told me a story about a customer of his that wrecked a brand new four wheel drive vehicle. He crashed during a snow storm and complained that the vehicle would not stop well and he slid into the car in front of him. After asking some qualifying questions he learned that the customer did in fact assume that because the vehicle had four wheel drive, it would have the same driving characteristics of being on dry pavement. He was driving much faster than he should have. The salesman then proceeded to tell the customer that he was an idiot because 4WD represented four wheel drive and not four wheel stop! I had a good laugh but then I started thinking hey....it is four wheel stop!! Long story short...the obvious is that when driving in poor and slippery conditions you should drive slower. BUT...traction is what is desired and tire choice does play a major roll! (pun intended!) I have driven on Coopers, BFG's, Grabbers, Yokohama's, and most importantly Duratracs. The BFG's were only decent after I sipped the hell out of them. But that made the vehicle drive squirrelly on dry pavement. I should also point out that my snow driving experience was acquired on the east coast, the snow belt in the mid west near one of the great lakes, and Colorado! The Duratracs had the best snow and ice traction but even at 2mph I have skidded right past my driveway with them. You have to understand that temp plays a huge role in the tires performance in the winter. It is rubber so when the temps drop it will change the hardness of the rubber compound. The best to do is really learn how to drive in snowy conditions and figure out if you needs would best be suited by introducing either siping, studs or even chains regardless of tire choice if you decide to run the tires all year long and not have dedicated winter tires. I know that sounds harsh because 4 tires are expensive as it is and 8 are just that much worse. That brings me to the next analogy that I heard...you wanna play you gotta pay!
BFGoodrich in a TA/KO is a great tire if you aren't going to run mud tires. The sidewalls are incredibly tough for an all-terrain tire, they are quiet on the road, good on any surface and I got 60,000 miles out of mine.
The OP is in Iowa. And BFG TAs suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck in snow.
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Never mind. Went into my preferences and figured it out myself.
Duratrack are frigging awesome in the snow!!I've only run BFG All Terrains on my 92 and have never had any complaints on the snow/ice. This past winter they weren't spectacular but good. They were also 6+ years old with 40k+ miles and have hardened quite a bit.
My understanding is that the new KO2 is an even better performing tire in the snow/ice. And gets the "triple peak" rating on snow/ice. They come with Michelin's siping technology.
I like the stronger sidewall and can't complain about my BFGs from the past so I think I'm going this route.
I was there a few days ago. Awsome view.View attachment 1244941 View attachment 1244942 View attachment 1244943 View attachment 1244944 View attachment 1244945 Went on a nice little day trip to Moab to check out Hurrah Pass for the first time.
Duratrack are frigging awesome in the snow!!
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You'll also get many more miles from the KO2 than you will the Duratrac. At least the guys around here that have the duratracs are getting ~30-40K miles at most. I had 3 sets of the BFGs and the ones that had the fewest miles when I replaced them had 60K on them and still had decent tread.I've heard that. But I've also heard the same about the new KO2s. And I've heard the Duratracs have sensitive sidewalls.