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Yeah the trend is not promising. My last diesel tank was 1.65/L which works out to about 6.50/gallon? Yikes.
Someone say french fry oil?
Someone say french fry oil?
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Similar experience here. Luckily I filled up two days ago when it was $4.22/gallon. This morning it was $4.40 and by mid afternoon it had gone up to $4.80. I can’t imagine what it will be in a week or two.
Once the European baloney gets sorted out fuel will stabilize. I'm OK with paying more if it rids the world of that one person that's causing all the grief.
One thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around is if, as the President indicated, we are an exporter of petroleum, why do we export petroleum and import it? Every ounce we pump should stay here.
One thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around is if, as the President indicated, we are an exporter of petroleum, why do we export petroleum and import it? Every ounce we pump should stay here.
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Rather fill up my 70 then the dual tank 80 or even worse my ram 3500 with 55 gallon tank ! Good thing I went to the king of Hammer race last month and filled up in commifornia at 5$ a gallon and 2 weeks ago I was in Europe filling up at 8$ a gallon. Still not to bad under 5$ here in Tx , time to get something with a 3B again and run on waste oil
I've never been able to understand the reasoning behind that either. One would think that it would be a lot more economical and even "greener" to avoid shipping it out of the country.
I topped off the family truck (Ram 2500) about two weeks ago and put over 50 gallons in it. At current local prices it would cost over $360 to fill the whole 80 gallons up. I don't think we'll be driving it much for a while!
I used to run my 4BT cummins off of a mix of 20% gasoline 80% veg oil. My fuel line was connected to the tranny cool line that went through the radiator to heat it up. On mornings below freezing where the truck had sat more than 6 hours without running I would pour a tea kettle of hot water over the IP and hard lines and she'd fire right up. On top of all that the exhaust smelled like fried fish and french fries! Getting good used OIl is the difficult part. Asian restaurents are the best to get clean oil in amounts of 5-10gal a week....
I was getting my boat ready to use and go off shore fishing...It's going to be hard to get anyone to split gas with me to go now. My "normal day" offshore would now cost about $250 in fuel.
Ouch! Suddenly the shorter distances in Europe compared to the American West are really nice!
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Well we have distances that are probably worse than the American West and our prices are right at the $8.5 a gallon for standard unleaded and 7.3 a gallon for Diesel.
Imho, your authorities need to park their pro green stance at least for the minute and just open up the oil production. We need to do the same. Oh and while I'm at it start work on that gas pipeline.
It seems that we produce a lot of light, sweet crude oil; but most U.S. refineries are configured to process a different grade. It all tracks to how to make the most $$. Both for what we produce and can sell it for, and then what we can buy and refine.
This is the answer. Refineries can only handle specific grades of crude and not all crude oil is the same. Things vary significantly depending on where it is pulled from the ground. And when you see that the price of oil is $XXX/barrel that refers to only a specific grade of crude. Oil with more H2S or heavier viscosity, etc. trades at a discount to that price generally.
Bottom line, the US could refine everything it produces if it had the refining capacity. It doesn't. No new refinery has been built since the mid 70s.
Unfortunately it’s not just refineries. Plant Vogtle Nuclear Plant in Georgia was first approved in 2012. It‘s now 2022 and it is not on line yet. The regulators just keep moving the goal post.
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Those are part of the answer but it's actually pretty simple. A refinery typically makes diesel and gasoline (along with a myriad of other products). Although you can tweak the balance between diesel and gasoline you can't tweak it that much. The US is a gasoline market and Europe is a diesel market. So in simple terms, excess diesel from the US flows to Europe and excess gasoline from European refineries flows to the US. Here's a simple map of the flows from 2017.
Edit: Guess I kinda missed the mark on strictly "petroleum" and yes, as others said that has more to do with grades and what refineries can process most efficiently. Crude flows primarily along those lines but nonetheless the products flow around the world as well depending on the demands.
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Diesel was 2.25 EUR/L this noon at the filling station round the corner here in Leverkusen Germany.
That's roughly 9.50 USD/gal.
Hey, we are really driving luxury vehicles, aren't we?
In Germany there is a law in place that increases the price for fossil fuels each year by applying a 'CO2 tax'.
So, it was clear the diesel price would eventually hit 2.00 EUR/L and over in a matter of time.
That's why I got an old fashioned diesel engine: It could be converted to vegetable oil.
Right now, plant oil (when used as motor fuel) is taxed like any other fuel; including the CO2 tax, although vegetable oil is actually CO2 neutral.
With the price for the raw (untaxed) vegetable oil usually higher as (untaxed) fossil diesel, there was no benefit yet.
But now, at least the latter argument may have changed. And probably in near future also the CO2 tax might get put right.
There are not many vehicles left on the road that could run vegetable oil, so that wouldn't be a driver, but other appliances like heating could....
If they really want to get independent of crude oil and promote environmentally friendly energy, vegetable oil must be considered and be promoted.
Probably we should get into the rabbit hole of a vegetable oil conversion sooner than expected.
Any experience here? (I have a 3B).
So, it was clear the diesel price would eventually hit 2.00 EUR/L and over in a matter of time.
That's why I got an old fashioned diesel engine: It could be converted to vegetable oil.
Right now, plant oil (when used as motor fuel) is taxed like any other fuel; including the CO2 tax, although vegetable oil is actually CO2 neutral.
With the price for the raw (untaxed) vegetable oil usually higher as (untaxed) fossil diesel, there was no benefit yet.
But now, at least the latter argument may have changed. And probably in near future also the CO2 tax might get put right.
There are not many vehicles left on the road that could run vegetable oil, so that wouldn't be a driver, but other appliances like heating could....
If they really want to get independent of crude oil and promote environmentally friendly energy, vegetable oil must be considered and be promoted.
Probably we should get into the rabbit hole of a vegetable oil conversion sooner than expected.
Any experience here? (I have a 3B).
About same price here in Finland and rising...
Drove it to the beach for a surf and to pay homage to the crew of the S. A. AGULHAS II and Endurance22 on the epic discovery of the HMS Endurance. Without a stupid amount of time on Research Ships and a fair bit of time in the Southern Ocean, and on the ice I would not be able to have a 70 series. What a day for ocean science and exploration.
I ran WVO in a Cummins 4bt. 2 gallon gasoline to 6 gallon WVO mix. Single fuel tank. Fuel line routed through the tranny cooler line through the radiator. On below 40 degree mornings with a totally cold engine I'd pour a tea kettle of hot water over the IP and hard lines to start it. 10-15 percent reduction in power and mpg. Difficult to get clean oil and need to carry spare fuel filters, or be prepared to bypass the filter to get home.
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Just hyväMade some 3B => 12H-T modifications in the engine bay:
Relocated clutch slave cylinder to the right side of the bell housing, had to pull a new pipe from the master cylinder.
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Instead of modifying the BJ75 radiator, I ended up ordering a HJ75 radiator from allfourx4.com. After I got two damaged radiators, they raised their hands and sent my money back.. Luckily I managed to repair one
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