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[Broski]

Side by side against @Broski wheel wells. He def. cut more out and went further up than me. But I think I did pretty good for just eyeballing and freehand cutting it. I probably should have went a little more aggressive but I also have stuff inside the panels for storage. I might not have the same level of up travel as Broski and might hit the inside or need to bump more. I'm still toying with the idea of going 4" DOBI heavies and 30mm (in) spacer to net me at 5". I need to be at 5 or 6" with my DeltaVS 6' radius arms. I have too much caster right now for my 4" total lift. That might keep my COG a bit lower.

Yea mine isn't as pretty as his cut. My truck was bought beat and dented. It's going to get beat anyway. So nothing for me to cry over if its a little wavy. It's function over form is what counts!
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I cut as far as I could with out going into the cabin, the plastic panels still work. The storage areas are still functional Fully sealed and airtight. At the upper part of the wheel Ark there is 21/8'" lip that the tire tucks into.

And I am running a 21/2" bump stop extensions. The Gas tank filler tube also need to be modified.

 

[spyduh]

I cut as far as I could with out going into the cabin, the plastic panels still work. The storage areas are still functional Fully sealed and airtight. At the upper part of the wheel Ark there is 21/8'" lip that the tire tucks into.



And I am running a 21/2" bump stop extensions. The Gas tank filler tube also need to be modified.

I wonder what you did with your gas tube. Mine is super close now. I didn't go as deep as you and im hoping it still clears and doesn't rub.

I measured from the new 39 tire to the new fender lip. I'm at 6.25 from new tire to the outer metal lip. Still on the 4in lift. What are you at with your measurement?

 

[spyduh]

Some of you that have been telling me over and over not to go with 6in lift. Well it worked. You guys have changed my mind. I made a edit to my order and change it to 4 in heavy Dobinson front and rear with the 30 mm spacer. I decided to go 5in to keep my center of gravity as low as possible. Similar to @baldilocks lift.

Why? Well with 39s it puts me up way high already and going back to 5 will net me the same as 37s and 6. But with little lower COG.

This is my 2nd order change. I was at 4 Dobi flexi, switched to 6 heavy and now back at 4 but heavy. Last time I swear!

This gives me the flexibility to change out spacers in the future and go with 10 mil 20 mil or 30 mil to fine-tune my level of lift

 

[Broski]

I wonder what you did with your gas tube. Mine is super close now. I didn't go as deep as you and im hoping it still clears and doesn't rub.

I measured from the new 39 tire to the new fender lip. I'm at 6.25 from new tire to the outer metal lip. Still on the 4in lift. What are you at with your measurement?

looks like right at 91/2"

 

[baldilocks]

I’m sticking with 37’s on stock rims just to be different. You guys and your huge tires...... why not start working on making 42’s fit? You know you want to...

 

[StaticTorque]

I’m sticking with 37’s on stock rims just to different. You guys and your huge tires...... why not start working on making 42’s fit? You know you wan to...

And I was thinking about going to 37's when my 35's need to be replaced... I'll be too late to the party lol.

91/2"

I swore this said, 91" and not "9 1/2" lol

 

[Broski]

looks like right at 91/2"
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I'm done, fitting the 39s just about pushed me over the edge. plus I think 39s are the outer limits for our axles

 

[spyduh]

I'm done, fitting the 39s just about pushed me over the edge. plus I think 39s are the outer limits for our axles

40s on 80 axles = breakage. 39s as big as you can go.

40-42s you'll need to be on tons!

I actually was searching for superduty axles earlier today. lol. don't ask.

 

[GW Nugget]

Are those 4" heavies dual rate?
Baldilocks, Broski, malteserunner, noah & I are all on dual rate coils.
Why not just add spacers to you TourFlex coils?

 

[spyduh]

Are those 4" heavies dual rate?
Baldilocks, Broski, malteserunner, noah & I are all on dual rate coils.
Why not just add spacers to you TourFlex coils?

I'm on spacers 3 +30mm at 4total with the Tours

I carry too much weight to do progressives. I need the linear heavies to keep me from sagging.

 

[mazder]

Crap, by the time I can afford a set of 39s are there gunna B any left?
I'm glad these are getting to be "The New 37"

I can sell you a set of slightly used 38s!

 

[Jason Andrews]

40s on 80 axles = breakage. 39s as big as you can go.

40-42s you'll need to be an amazing driver and limit weight by not carrying every tool and spare part you have in your garage.

I actually was searching for superduty axles earlier today. lol. don't ask.

I fixed it for ya I have been running 42's for 4 years now. Granted I haven't put a ton of miles on it, or been beating on it and taking buggy lines on trails in Montrose, but I confirmed I haven't even twisted the splines on my Nitro chromoly yet.

Carrying a ton of unnecessary weight is super counter productive for a real rock crawler.

I definitely rub of my fuel filler neck. Honestly surprised it hasn't broken the welds to the mount.
My top of tire to outer rear fender is 6.75" but inside the wheel well it's closer to 6".

 

[spyduh]

I can sell you a set of slightly used 38s!

Uhh... lol. GW already has 38s. haha

 

[Broski]

I can sell you a set of slightly used 38s!

Joe it would nice if you could post up some picture of you rear tubs so we could see what you did. A lot of us aren't on instagram .

 

[Broski]

Carrying a ton of unnecessary weight is super counter productive for a real rock crawler.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What I have been saying for years

 

[spyduh]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What I have been saying for years

I get it. That's why most people wheel minis because they are just plain lighter. I'm of the belief of being prepared and bring spare parts. I've never had to use any spare parts yet for myself. I've lent out knuckle housings, bearings, birfs, axles and etc parts to my buddies mini trucks lots of times now. I've only had to use spare bolts/nuts on myself.

But I still like carrying parts so if I ever do break something. I can easily fix it myself on the trail instead of needing to walk out and try to get to town to try and find a spare part for my near 30 year old truck and then going back and repairing it. But that comes at a cost and that cost is extra weight. I've been toying with the idea lately of changing my strategy and dragging my half cut toyota pickup trailer and leaving it at the trail head from now and leaving spare parts and my spare tire inside it. Will obviously chain up the wheels and probably to a tree so no one steals it. It'll allow me peace of mind that I have parts in the trailer and won't have to head to town to hunt for replacement parts.

But then again, I always wheel with buddies on hard trails and only solo easy trails. I'm smart enough not to try stupid lines when I'm solo too. But it's all about risk/reward benefit of keeping it light and hoping you won't need that spare.

One thing I won't compromise on is bringing my ready welder. It's not too heavy for the usefulness of fixing serious things on the trail. My ready welder maybe weighs in at 15-20lbs max

edit: I just realized that I change drive shafts so I can't say I never changed any parts. My mini truck had 2 sets of shafts. 1. Street shaft and 2. Trail shaft. Any time I hit the trail head I would do a drive shaft swap and put my street shaft away. I got tired of paying for a new shaft every single year. It got really expensive that way and I changed my method. Once I spent the time to change to my trail shaft. I haven't had to spend money in the past 3 years. Again that wouldn't be an issue if I just truck/trailered it.

 

[Broski]

I get it. That's why most people wheel minis because they are just plain lighter. I'm of the belief of being prepared and bring spare parts. I've never had to use any spare parts yet for myself. I've lent out knuckle housings, bearings, birfs, axles and etc parts to my buddies mini trucks lots of times now. I've only had to use spare bolts/nuts on myself.

But I still like carrying parts so if I ever do break something. I can easily fix it myself on the trail instead of needing to walk out and try to get to town to try and find a spare part for my near 30 year old truck and then going back and repairing it. But that comes at a cost and that cost is extra weight. I've been toying with the idea lately of changing my strategy and dragging my half cut toyota pickup trailer and leaving it at the trail head from now and leaving spare parts and my spare tire inside it. Will obviously chain up the wheels and probably to a tree so no one steals it. It'll allow me peace of mind that I have parts in the trailer and won't have to head to town to hunt for replacement parts.

But then again, I always wheel with buddies on hard trails and only solo easy trails. I'm smart enough not to try stupid lines when I'm solo too. But it's all about risk/reward benefit of keeping it light and hoping you won't need that spare.

One thing I won't compromise on is bringing my ready welder. It's not too heavy for the usefulness of fixing serious things on the trail. My ready welder maybe weighs in at 15-20lbs max

This is how I roll, I like to trailer my Reg to the trail that way I can give it my all on the trail and not worry about getting home. On the front of the trailer is a tool box with my spare parts in it.
Worst case is I half to walk out to get the parts, or if I am lucky some one give me a ride or go get them for me.

 

[spyduh]

This is how I roll, I like to trailer my Reg to the trail that way I can give it my all on the trail and not worry about getting home. On the front of the trailer is a tool box with my spare parts in it.
Worst case is I half to walk out to get the parts, or if I am lucky some one give me a ride or go get them for me.

I would have no problem doing this either. The only problem is I don't own a truck capable of towing my car trailer and the 80crawler. If I had one, then I would have ZERO problems make it as light as possible because I have a backup to get the truck home. I could easily limp out and load it on the trailer and go home.

I still hate trailering and rather drive to the trailhead and back home. That's the only reason why I've always loaded everything in my truck.

I also had the mini truck before and it barely got itself up the HILL up Hwy80 or 50 going to Con! It was not going to pull my Toyota pickup trailer. Now that I have the 80 as the rock crawler. It might? have enough power to pull my little trailer now. I should be able to store my parts in it and leave them at the trailhead. That still doesn't solve the main problem of not having a truck to tow. Yea I own a car trailer but not a tow rig to use it. I could probably rent one from a car rental place. Would be cheaper than owning one. I use my Turbo80 to tow cars and that does fine. But towing another fully built 80 with a Turb80 just sounds like a bad idea. Power no problem. Braking is what scares me! I would be way over the GVWR for the cruiser. The turbo80 itself with all the crap I have in it is probably just at GVWR with out towing anything.

A tow rig has been on my list for years to buy. I just own too many vehicles and not enough parking spots. Also don't really want another car registration, insurance, or maintenance to deal with.

 

[mazder]

Joe it would nice if you could post up some picture of you rear tubs so we could see what you did. A lot of us aren't on instagram .

Builds - Succubus80

Getting a late start on this build, hopefully I have enough pics to manage. Succubus80 1995 FZJ80 Factory Locked, no roofrack or rear wind deflector. 191,000 miles when I purchased her from my neighbor. He had it for a school semester before I bought it from him.

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[joez]

#trailersareforboats.

40's can be wheeled hard on "stock" axles, but it's tough on them. Weight is a huge factor, I can't wait to be back under 6k fully loaded, which is still heavy, but not terrible. Lighter than most JK's.

Fenders look awesome, you guys that took the time to seal it up nice make me jealous.