REAL TIME a440f help getting 👉🏽 manual swapped (7 Viewers)

[Skreddy]

Damn it.
I just put this transmission in.
Was super clean when we did and has been shifting and performing great in the 460 miles since we finished.

Just to curb anyone's good intentions: Yes, I want an H55 in there. No, I can't afford it. I will honestly probably have to sell this truck if I need to put another trans in.

I really could use some good ideas on what I could do. For now, I'll get to the AirBnB and drop the pan and take a look. If I find clutch pack material in there I'm going to cry...

Georg is checking with his rebuild guy to see what he thinks is up. Everyone seems stumped on this.

I’d maybe just look into swapping in an H55…..

Jk.

If you shift it yourself through all the gears, is there any difference? Like Chase was suggesting, is there any adjustment in the shift linkage that could’ve moved?

 

[RevISK]

I’d maybe just look into swapping in an H55…..

Jk.

If you shift it yourself through all the gears, is there any difference? Like Chase was suggesting, is there any adjustment in the shift linkage that could’ve moved?

Har. D. Har… har.

My kind of humor

I’m not sure I follow, difference if I Shift vs if this transmission does? The tranny shifts super smooth. It does as well if I do it although I don’t get to 4th like it does.

I’ve got my FSM and it says folk all about any adjustments.

I downloaded the a440f specific manual and am still searching that epic tomb.

 

[Skreddy]

I’m not familiar with the 62 tranny and shifter (60 with an h55 here….). But most autos, the shifter pattern will look like PRD321. If it’s same, can you start at 1 and manually move the shifter to each higher gear as rpm’s climb. Thinking this may help narrow troubleshooting?

 

[RevISK]

I’m not familiar with the 62 tranny and shifter (60 with an h55 here….). But most autos, the shifter pattern will look like PRD321. If it’s same, can you start at 1 and manually move the shifter to each higher gear as rpm’s climb. Thinking this may help narrow troubleshooting?

Definitely PRD321 and yes, 100% can shift manually through the gears just fine. She just doesn’t want to do OD.
(edit: Torque Converter will not Lock Up. I am told OD is 4th)

 

[Skreddy]

Definitely PRD321 and yes, 100% can shift manually through the gears just fine. She just doesn’t want to do OD.

I’ve exhausted my auto troubleshooting. Hope it doesn’t put a damper on your trip. Assuming you’re on some sort of vacation if you have an air bnb.

 

[RevISK]

I’ve exhausted my auto troubleshooting. Hope it doesn’t put a damper on your trip. Assuming you’re on some sort of vacation if you have an air bnb.

I would never, ever vacation in Dallas.
Strictly a work trip. I’ve come here enough that I’ve earned the right to not stay in a hotel for 10 days.

I appreciate your willingness to help.

 

[Skreddy]

I would never, ever vacation in Dallas.
Strictly a work trip. I’ve come here enough that I’ve earned the right to not stay in a hotel for 10 days.

I appreciate your willingness to help.

I guess I should cancel my family Christmas trip to Dallas…..

 

[Malleus]

How many miles is "new"? That's too much trash on a "new" transmission. Clutch material is nonmagnetic. The only steel fines "should" come from the friction steels, and they should be virgin in a new transmission. Any other trash in there wasn't cleaned out when it was rebuilt.

Why was the transmission rebuilt?

Did you replace the torque converter when the transmission was rebuilt? Was the system flushed?

 

[RevISK]

How many miles is "new"? That's too much trash on a "new" transmission. Clutch material is nonmagnetic. The only steel fines "should" come from the friction steels, and they should be virgin in a new transmission. Any other trash in there wasn't cleaned out when it was rebuilt.

Why was the transmission rebuilt?

Did you replace the torque converter when the transmission was rebuilt? Was the system flushed?

There is approximately less than 1,000 miles on this transmission.

I’m unclear as to why it was rebuilt, just that it was.

It is my understanding that torque converter was rebuilt/replaced. It certainly looked fresh.

Thought I had a pic of the TC.

 

[Malleus]

I would not be happy.

 

[RevISK]

I’m keeping this thread active and will change the title eventually.

Spent most of the night looking for any threads with these symptoms AND resolution.

Found 1:

another a44Of issue

Hi. Recently my a44Of started slipping when cold,and then wouldn't change out of first until it warmed a bit. Then no overdrive lockup. Fluid level was right, kickdown cable fine. I pulled the pan and the filter was very clean. The fluid was clean too. [ I drain and fill 5 litres every 6 months...

forum.ih8mud.com

Updates momentarily

 

[RevISK]

I would not be happy.

I am anything but.

 

[RevISK]

Drained and dropped the pan and screen/filter. More fines on the magnets than I would like. Filter is clear of clutch material and pretty much doesn’t even need to be washed.

I keep coming back to: Is this dumb luck or is there a common issue with the truck causing it to eat transmissions?

Truck has 164k.
BFG 32”
Last tranny gave very little indication prior to crapping the bed.

Ugh…

 

[Malleus]

No, you were screwed on the rebuild. Or whoever paid for it was. That's too nasty for a 1000 mile transmission. It should still be clean.

My guess is that whoever did the work just replaced the clutches, if indeed they did that, and never bothered to clean the parts as they should have. There was also a problem somewhere that wasn't addressed, which is why it's failing to shift.

 

[zeeklafreek]

Wow, sorry to hear this. Sending some good tranny juju your way. Wait, that didn't come out right...

 

[RevISK]

looking at my picture above and seeing for the first time "WHOLESALE"

 

[zeeklafreek]

looking at my picture above and seeing for the first time "WHOLESALE"

That's the first thing I noticed too.

 

[majdomo]

Here's a weird one - I had this same issue on my 62 where it wouldn't lock up after taking out my instrument panel and fixing the speedo, but then not re-engaging the speedo cable completely into the back of the speedometer. Truck drove totally normal and good until I got up to 51ish on the fwy, then it wouldn't lock up. The speedo needle was dancing more than normal and was making some racket. I pulled over, pulled the instrument panel out (lucky it's not hard on a 62), and cut up my hand re-engaging the speedo cable, and it was all fine after that.

I know the lock-up is a mechanical thing, but best I could figure there is some kind of speed sensor that the trans needs to engage the lock-up.

Hadn't been mentioned, not sure it helps, hoping it could be this simple... all the things. You'll get it. Good luck!

 

[Skniper]

Are you able to identify the springs in the valve body the other guy was talking about?

 

[Skniper]

I think the good news is at least the transmission shifts normally until OD. You should feel the OD kick in about 52 mph with a slight tach drop (I'm sure you know this, not trying to be Capt Obvious here ).
Back in the day I did a really good (complete) flush of the ATF in mine (and cleaned the filter, etc), it made a world of difference in "freshening" up my old A440F shifting. Fresh fluid could clean out your rebuild "dust" and maybe wake up the TC lockup.
I don't remember if the kickdown cable adjustment has anything to do with TC lockup. (?)

But alas, mine eventually crapped out after numerous years of limping it along. I bought a 5 speed.