If I could import one where the steering wheel was on the left side like here in the United States that’s what I would get, but I’m not driving on the right side. I don’t like it I’ve tried it.
From Hundy to 2024 LC 250?
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do you have an idea how much it would cost including transport/import fees? I have a feeling it would be more than a new 250
Find a listing of a truck for sale and add about $5k for shipping/import, assuming someone's willing to help on the export side. It's really not that bad.
And then figure out how to finance it. Because that's how people "buy" new Toyotas.
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I think you could come in well under $55K - for LHD imported 105
I have a 2001 LX 470 with 191k miles, Araco-built. Six years in, and I love it more every day. I'm very excited about the 2024 LC/GX platform, but in a cautious way. I kind of raise an eyebrow at the hybrid-plus-turbo thing, but it's a Toyota, now a VW/Audi/BMW. They'll probably get it right.
Yet, then I look at the 2024 GX, which (correct me if I'm wrong) is going to come with the twin-turbo V6 that is currently in the new Tundra/Sequoia. That is much more appealing to me powertrain-wise, but all you have to do is look up the Tundra/Sequoia forums to see that those engines are catastrophically locking up before 50k miles.
So I'm excited, but I'm going to wait. The LX still has a lot of life left in it, and the wife has a rock-solid van. I can sit back and watch to see how it all unfolds, and that's my plan.
Yet, then I look at the 2024 GX, which (correct me if I'm wrong) is going to come with the twin-turbo V6 that is currently in the new Tundra/Sequoia. That is much more appealing to me powertrain-wise, but all you have to do is look up the Tundra/Sequoia forums to see that those engines are catastrophically locking up before 50k miles.
So I'm excited, but I'm going to wait. The LX still has a lot of life left in it, and the wife has a rock-solid van. I can sit back and watch to see how it all unfolds, and that's my plan.
Why? What appeals to you other than newness and some cool technology over a beautiful LX 470? There’s guys out there happily running triple locked 80 series with new swapped engines etc. loving every second of it. Why would you want to go with something expensive with a tiny little unproven engine? You could take that $55,000 and completely deck out your 470 with new engine, new transmission triple locked all the technology that you would want in the world all new suspension and everything beautiful and in my opinion it would be a far superior platform. But opinions are like you know what’s…
The LC250 is based on the same platform as the LC300, which is a vastly superior beast to the LC200. The LC200 (eg LX570) is an improvement over the 100 series, however not enough to convince me (or more importantly my beloved dictator for life) to change.
The LC300 is something else again. It's stiffer, rides really well (haven't been in a 300-Lexus with AHC though) and from all reports, is an absolute weapon off road with the E-KDSS. Imagine it with AHC!!
People here in Oz are whinging that the move from the V8 1VD-FTV diesel to the V6 F33A-FTV was a backward step, however those cries are diminishing over time. It's just a really good truck.
If/when my LX470 ceases to work, a GX550 is very very tempting, and I would certainly not bother trying to find another 100 series now that the 250 is shortly to arrive.
The LC300 is something else again. It's stiffer, rides really well (haven't been in a 300-Lexus with AHC though) and from all reports, is an absolute weapon off road with the E-KDSS. Imagine it with AHC!!
People here in Oz are whinging that the move from the V8 1VD-FTV diesel to the V6 F33A-FTV was a backward step, however those cries are diminishing over time. It's just a really good truck.
If/when my LX470 ceases to work, a GX550 is very very tempting, and I would certainly not bother trying to find another 100 series now that the 250 is shortly to arrive.
Wow, 5 pages in.
Exactly. It's a Prado. That's totally fine, but not the same as an LC.
If you are shopping 200's just understand that the 200 is a real LC. The 250 is not - at least not from the standpoint that most people intend in the USA when they say "Land Cruiser". The nameplate doesn't matter, but what does matter is that the LC has typically been made more stout than the Prado (which is the same-ish frame and core components as the GX and/or 4Runner).
I drove hundreds of Toyota's in ~2006-2007 when I worked for Toyota. The Land Cruisers absolutely felt different. Even just in a parking lot - let alone out on the street. The new GXs feel less substantial than a 100, IMO. The 200 has that stout/boat feel we all love. I don't suspect the 250 will have that feel if it's got a $55k price point.
It might be a great car, I guess my point is just don't expect the Land Cruiser quality feel in a brand new $55k car - no matter the badge.
Exactly. It's a Prado. That's totally fine, but not the same as an LC.
If you are shopping 200's just understand that the 200 is a real LC. The 250 is not - at least not from the standpoint that most people intend in the USA when they say "Land Cruiser". The nameplate doesn't matter, but what does matter is that the LC has typically been made more stout than the Prado (which is the same-ish frame and core components as the GX and/or 4Runner).
I drove hundreds of Toyota's in ~2006-2007 when I worked for Toyota. The Land Cruisers absolutely felt different. Even just in a parking lot - let alone out on the street. The new GXs feel less substantial than a 100, IMO. The 200 has that stout/boat feel we all love. I don't suspect the 250 will have that feel if it's got a $55k price point.
It might be a great car, I guess my point is just don't expect the Land Cruiser quality feel in a brand new $55k car - no matter the badge.
Anybody else think it resembles a Hummer besides me?
I don’t think it’s based on the LC 300. It’s based on the Prado which is a completely water down version of the Landcruiser. It is not the same. It is not as robustly built. It’s a different chassis and frame and size. Maybe it’s different in Australia? But not here in the United States. Different beast altogether.
False.
The 250 (LC and GX), 300 (LC and LX), new Tacoma, Tundra, and Sequoia are all on the TNGA-F platform.
Same chassis, frame etc, well they CERTAINLY aren’t built the same
Maybe the Hummer H3
That's actually a good point. The frame family is the same. However, that frame family goes from a 112 to 165" wheelbase on basically every "not compact" SUV and truck Toyota makes.
This is the first land cruiser generation on the tnga platform. Maybe the old paradigms no longer apply and the new land cruiser 300 feels more similar to the 250. I think the $25-100k difference in price tags infers that they're substantially different, but I can't speak from experience yet. If the 250 has that solid land cruiser feel for $55k I'd be shocked.
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Seriously shocked. I wanna see the axles, steering linkage, sway bars, etc. on the 300 vs the 250. Compared to the 100 as well.
The LC300 Landcruiser and LC250 Land Cruiser Prado in Australia are the same wheelbase and pretty well the same width. Note also the Prado (centre and rear diff locks) appears to have more off-road features than the base GXL LC300 - with only a centre locking diff. (Again this is the Australian picture).
That being said - my LX470 has only a centre locking diff and its off-road capability is very good indeed.
I'm also going to gently disagree with you about the LC120/150s - I've only experienced the Prado (no GXs here in Oz) and it's a long lasting, well built and robust 4WD. I saw as many Prados last year on the Old Telegraph Track as 80, 100/105s and Nissan Patrols, which seems to be a testament to their capability and longevity.
Not that I'm an open the checkbook and go type citizen to begin with, but all this chatter makes me glad I just bought a 100 Series.
Yes…. But your Prado is a completely different truck, then the new “Landcruiser” in the United States. It might be from the same chassis and frame, but it’s a completely different truck.
A 100 series and a 5th gen 4Runner are also very similar in size but there is a lot more than that to each truck.
Steering rack, IFS, and rear axle are what matters. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the 250 but I'm guessing it's still nowhere near as heavy duty as a lowly 100 series.
