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ClemsonCruiser
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I nominate this for slowest build thread ever 
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I nominate this for slowest build thread ever
You be quiet your not helping the situation.
Donor is getting moved to the engine stand next week for disassembly .
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Okay back to business. I'm slow I know.
Got the motor on the stand. What a mess. It's an 84 supposedly with 275k on it.
What a mess. But it's not what is on the outside that counts.
Yanked the head and immediately found out what was wrong with the motor. Blown head gasket.
Between 1-2
This is where it got interesting. A motor that has 275k on it should have a good size ridge at the top or oversize pistons. No ridge at the top. Pistons are standard size and the bore specs out. So my assumption is that there is no way this motor had 275k on it. Maybe 75-125k. Bearing we're all in pretty good shape as well. Cam looks almost brand new.
But boy was it ever caked in oil and mud. I had to wash my tools after I stripped this mess down.
There was also a good bit of sludge in the motor.
Messy
Messy
Messy
Upon draining the oil I had a good gallon of water come out before the oil.
You can see how deep the crap was on the pan after I scraped a layer off
Got the motor on the stand. What a mess. It's an 84 supposedly with 275k on it.
What a mess. But it's not what is on the outside that counts.
Yanked the head and immediately found out what was wrong with the motor. Blown head gasket.
Between 1-2
This is where it got interesting. A motor that has 275k on it should have a good size ridge at the top or oversize pistons. No ridge at the top. Pistons are standard size and the bore specs out. So my assumption is that there is no way this motor had 275k on it. Maybe 75-125k. Bearing we're all in pretty good shape as well. Cam looks almost brand new.
But boy was it ever caked in oil and mud. I had to wash my tools after I stripped this mess down.
There was also a good bit of sludge in the motor.
Messy
Messy
Messy
Upon draining the oil I had a good gallon of water come out before the oil.
You can see how deep the crap was on the pan after I scraped a layer off
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Stockton wheel is open again
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Then I yanked the cooling system apart
Every hose had swelled from being coated in oil so long.
The cooling system was a mess.
This turd is what flowed out of the block drain. Amazingly the drain wasn't plugged.
This is what the crank keyway should look like
I forgot a out this bearing. It was the only one that was bad. Kind of an important one as its the thrust bearing for the crank. The crank was walking all around in the block.
All disassembled
And on its way to the machine shop.
Every hose had swelled from being coated in oil so long.
The cooling system was a mess.
This turd is what flowed out of the block drain. Amazingly the drain wasn't plugged.
This is what the crank keyway should look like
I forgot a out this bearing. It was the only one that was bad. Kind of an important one as its the thrust bearing for the crank. The crank was walking all around in the block.
All disassembled
And on its way to the machine shop.
Hi,
Are there plans to improve the 2F through the rebuild? I'd be interested if you are going to shave the head, grind the cam, etc... I've got a '87 2F sitting in the garage I need to rebuild and need some ideas about what works well and what parts are getting hard to source. Is getting the rebuild parts from SOR a good way to go or just letting the machine shop do it? If you're using the machine shop to source parts, what parts will they get for you?
Thanks!
ty
Are there plans to improve the 2F through the rebuild? I'd be interested if you are going to shave the head, grind the cam, etc... I've got a '87 2F sitting in the garage I need to rebuild and need some ideas about what works well and what parts are getting hard to source. Is getting the rebuild parts from SOR a good way to go or just letting the machine shop do it? If you're using the machine shop to source parts, what parts will they get for you?
Thanks!
ty
tucker74
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No need to weld anything, use VW hubcap clips with rivets like this:
http://www.porsche356registry.org/r...-and-repair/309-hubcap-clip-installation.html
Tucker
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Finally found a set of 1mm or .040 oversize pistons for it. I wanted to go big without hurting reliability. I think I have some of the last pistons in the US. Was quite a task hunting these puppies down.
Got all the gaskets a seals from Lowe Toyota. All the powder coating will be done by Smoking Gun. Nothing real wild but it will be one of those motors you could eat off of. I plan on doing some mild port work as well. Rotating assembly goes next week to be balanced.
All the nuts and bolts and misc hardware is getting dipped in Trivalent Black. Similar to plating but its a new process that matches the black Toyota uses now on their nuts and bolts.
Got all the gaskets a seals from Lowe Toyota. All the powder coating will be done by Smoking Gun. Nothing real wild but it will be one of those motors you could eat off of. I plan on doing some mild port work as well. Rotating assembly goes next week to be balanced.
All the nuts and bolts and misc hardware is getting dipped in Trivalent Black. Similar to plating but its a new process that matches the black Toyota uses now on their nuts and bolts.
ClemsonCruiser
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We gonna dyno this puppy when she is done 
Can't wait to see her come together
Can't wait to see her come together
Thanks for sharing another engine build. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Im in to watch this one for sure, I have wanted to see a good 2f build to see what they are capable of for a while now
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Block and head back from the machine shop.
Crank, flywheel, connecting rods, pistons, pressure plate, and crank pulley were balanced at another machine shop. As was polished.
The engine compartment was a mess so it's getting a makeover as well. Wiring harness is coming out and having the fat cut out and some beef put in.
Much better.
He was a very lucky man. No bolt holding the splines together on the Saginaw steering shaft.
Parts to be powder coated by Smoking Gun (ACC).
More parts.
Parts getting cobalt plated they will all be black.
Smoking Gun doing their magic
First bake
Second bake
Third bake
These guys don't mess around. Plus they are a cruiser shop and know what needs to be covered up and what doesn't. I told Brian to keep it classy and that was about it. My next motor I do with them won't be so tame.
Rear valve cover is going on this build.
what did you do to the head? just standard grind or oversize/mill done?
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Looks nice Marshall
