[Trollhole]

I'm out of stock on the carbs. I should have another shipment in in late Nov. If you want to be on the waiting list for them please send me a PM or email me @ trollhole@trollholescruisers.com

Thanks. The next batch will have some new features and allow for a wider range of vehicles. Including the F motor with the cable.

$225 shipped




New, brand new desmogged carb.

These are aftermarket carbs. I've been working on bringing these into the US for a year now. I have a product you will really like.
They also come with the high altitude jets, the 9mm air cleaner and the choke stop.










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Marshall Shepherd
500 Marsh Creek Dr.
Mauldin, SC 29662

[RumBum]

Looks pretty nice. What's the deal with different years and linkage? Where are they manufactured?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by RumBum

Looks pretty nice. What's the deal with different years and linkage? Where are they manufactured?

Will work on any year that has mechanical linkage (non cable). They are not made in Japan. If that is what you are looking for.


I've been testing my prototypes on a stock 79 2f for the past 6 months. Not a single issue. It's pretty much a bolt on application.

[RumBum]

Sweet. I may try one out instead of a rebuild on my current. What is the story with the non-usa dizzy? What are the advantages?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by RumBum

Sweet. I may try one out instead of a rebuild on my current. What is the story with the non-usa dizzy? What are the advantages?

That's what I was hoping. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people post about an issue with their carb. There are only 3 choices and to get it right you either have to rebuild it yourself, pay someone to rebuild it or buy a Holley or Weber. All take time and none of them are inexpensive in my view. I have to say though without Mark and JimC I think the stock carb would all be forgotten. That being said I'm throwing another option into the mix. Something less expensive. Something new and for most of us a bolt on replacement for that 30 year old piece of perfection that has seen many miles.


Advantages. Well that's a double edged sword. If you have an electronic distributor it's not an advantage. It's a vacuum advance distributor. It has points. It's simple. It's made to work with the carb I'm selling.

[ProwlerDriver]

interesting i have a weber going on and am curious about this carb. Is at as simple as a weber? the only connections are the vacuum advance and fuel port? any adapters for mounting?

[Trollhole]

No adapters. Except you want to retain the carb spacer found on any stock F or 2F. It is almost exactly like the stock carbs in the US. Only it has one fuel inlet. That means if you have two you can remove the return line and cap it at the frame rail. One less thing to worry about.

It's just as simple as the weber. Better yet it requires no adapters for the stock air cleaner. No bending the fuel lines. No removing the stock choke cable. They all plug right up. The stock mechanical linkage hooks right to it.

It's as close to a direct replacement as you are going to get.

[ProwlerDriver]

I wish i would have seen this earlier! But at this price im still considering it. Does this still retain the HAC? Fuel decel cut off? Who makes this thing? Thanks a ton, sorry for all the questions!

[numby]

Can I retrofit a TP (throttle positioner) unit? I kind of enjoy the reduction in backfiring while coasting down hills. Are there bosses for other vacuum ports that could be drilled or is it mainly a pre-smog era carb clone? Good price either way!

[MDTyree]

I just posted a tread about rebuilding and desmoging my carb on my 78 fj40. This sounds like a better and easier deal. When will you be ready to sell them?
Sorry I just looked back D'oh The first of July.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by ProwlerDriver

I wish i would have seen this earlier! But at this price im still considering it. Does this still retain the HAC? Fuel decel cut off? Who makes this thing? Thanks a ton, sorry for all the questions!

No HAC no decel cut off. You could re-jet it if your running above 4000 ft most of the time. I'd rather not tell everyone who my manufacturer is. My next batch will have my logo on them.

Originally Posted by numby

Can I retrofit a TP (throttle positioner) unit? I kind of enjoy the reduction in backfiring while coasting down hills. Are there bosses for other vacuum ports that could be drilled or is it mainly a pre-smog era carb clone? Good price either way!

I'm sure you could. But it would require to tap the boss on the backside for a bolt (the hole is already there it just needs a tap) You would also require to weld on the tab to the primary linkage for the adjustment screw stop. My first few prototypes had no issues with backfiring coasting down hills.

Originally Posted by MDTyree

I just posted a tread about rebuilding and desmoging my carb on my 78 fj40. This sounds like a better and easier deal. When will you be ready to sell them?
Sorry I just looked back D'oh The first of July.

Yes should be right after 4th of July.


But this brings up a new set of questions I have for everyone out there. I can make anything. Seriously anything. In fact I'm working on a carb/EFI hybrid. Where on the outside it looks like any standard stock carb. But on the inside it has 2 injectors. Basically a bolt on fuel injection system. That looks stock and uses the stock linkages. You would still have a stock fuel pump though it would be gutted and just provide the stock look. The fuel pump and fuel regulator would be in hidden under the frame rail in the back. My major stumbling block is the IAC valve and where to fit it. I'm thinking of trying to use an external one built into the carb spacer body. Imagine fuel injection you could bolt on and use your stock linkage, air cleaner and carb.

That being said. If you have a better idea for my carb let me know. I'll try anything to make a better product for you. The whole idea on this carb that I have coming in right now was it's simple. There is no smog stuff on it anywhere. You unbolt your carb and you bolt this in it's place with one switched wire, one fuel line, one vacuum line to the distributor, and one throttle connection for the stock linkage. Choke cable bracket is the same as what you have now.

[MDTyree]

What would I have to do to change the whole set up on my 78? I'm seriously thinking about trying your carb., maybe the distributor also. I want to take the smog equipment off it anyway, this will just keep me from having my carb. reworked, rebuilt.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by ProwlerDriver

I wish i would have seen this earlier! But at this price im still considering it. Does this still retain the HAC? Fuel decel cut off? Who makes this thing? Thanks a ton, sorry for all the questions!

Originally Posted by numby

Can I retrofit a TP (throttle positioner) unit? I kind of enjoy the reduction in backfiring while coasting down hills. Are there bosses for other vacuum ports that could be drilled or is it mainly a pre-smog era carb clone? Good price either way!

Originally Posted by MDTyree

I just posted a tread about rebuilding and desmoging my carb on my 78 fj40. This sounds like a better and easier deal. When will you be ready to sell them?
Sorry I just looked back D'oh The first of July.

Originally Posted by MDTyree

What would I have to do to change the whole set up on my 78? I'm seriously thinking about trying your carb., maybe the distributor also. I want to take the smog equipment off it anyway, this will just keep me from having my carb. reworked, rebuilt.

Unbolt your other one and bolt this in it's place. Then remove and plug any smog stuff.

As far as the dizzy if it's an vac advanced electronic. I'd keep it. If it's a vac advanced points it's a tossup on the condition of your distributor.

[rjcruisers]

Put me down for a 2f carb

[numby]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

I'm sure you could. But it would require to tap the boss on the backside for a bolt (the hole is already there it just needs a tap) You would also require to weld on the tab to the primary linkage for the adjustment screw stop. My first few prototypes had no issues with backfiring coasting down hills.

That being said. If you have a better idea for my carb let me know. I'll try anything to make a better product for you. The whole idea on this carb that I have coming in right now was it's simple. There is no smog stuff on it anywhere. You unbolt your carb and you bolt this in it's place with one switched wire, one fuel line, one vacuum line to the distributor, and one throttle connection for the stock linkage. Choke cable bracket is the same as what you have now.

Maybe I need a new carb.

I favor the KISS principle. If you don't need the smog stuff might as well get rid of the fittings, ports, connectors, etc.

[MDTyree]

PM sent

[jessnbrianfj40]

But this brings up a new set of questions I have for everyone out there. I can make anything. Seriously anything. In fact I'm working on a carb/EFI hybrid. Where on the outside it looks like any standard stock carb.

carb/efi hybrid would be perfect for me as long as the price was competitive with the other injection options out there now. The only reason I haven't attempted it already is the downtime for working out the kinks, since I use my 40 for work daily.

That being said. If you have a better idea for my carb let me know.

A simple air cleaner at extra cost to go with the carb would be great. Stock is bulky and has all the hookups for smog pump, ect. that I don't need. Just a thought.

Thanks again for your efforts,

Brian

[72cruiser]

hey marshall, glad to see this taking off!

Originally Posted by jessnbrianfj40

A simple air cleaner at extra cost to go with the carb would be great. Stock is bulky and has all the hookups for smog pump, ect. that I don't need. Just a thought.

this sounds like a really good idea to me, plus it would give you another spot to put your logo: right on top of a sweet looking, not massive air cleaner.




best of luck with all of this,

malphrus

[1911]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

I'm working on a carb/EFI hybrid. Where on the outside it looks like any standard stock carb. But on the inside it has 2 injectors. Basically a bolt on fuel injection system. That looks stock and uses the stock linkages. You would still have a stock fuel pump though it would be gutted and just provide the stock look. The fuel pump and fuel regulator would be in hidden under the frame rail in the back. My major stumbling block is the IAC valve and where to fit it. I'm thinking of trying to use an external one built into the carb spacer body. Imagine fuel injection you could bolt on and use your stock linkage, air cleaner and carb.

I would be all over this like ugly on a toad, as long as it worked as well or better than the stock Aisin.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by FJ40Jim

The carb is for 81-85 Saudi 2F.
It uses the shorter spacer in the body, so it is 15mm shorter than 75-80 versions.

The choke arm accepts the 81-later cable w/ the cast on end.
Edit: Picture added to show R/C cable end that can be used to make the E-80 cable look like the 81-later cable.

Made in "not Japan".

I saw you posted to the thread and thought I was going to get ripped apart.

Thanks.

The first batch will come with a spacer to make up the difference on top and the little choke cable adapter for those that need it.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by FJ40Jim

Excellent plan. That will make it much closer to a bolt-on for the 75-80 models.

Thanks. Jim in all my measurements from what I can tell the original spacers were 19mm. This doesn't include the gaskets. My carb has a 9mm spacer. So I have made a 10mm spacer that goes on the top of the carb. I wasn't aware of the 15mm difference just a 10mm.

[MoCoNative]

I would be very interested in these. You'll be getting a PM.

Quick questions, is the boss/port there for the fuel return. I know these are settup without it, but just capping it off can be problematic. Can it be tapped for use if wanted?

Also on parts interchangebility, would a rebuild kit for a 2F carb work just fine in these? Will a toyota secondary diaghram work in it? Also, on the dizzy, will a petronix kit bolt in, and do you just order early cap and wires for tuneups?

Looks like a great product though and a great alternative. I tried to retrofit mine, ended up with a 77 high altitude 2F carb on my 73 1F. It works pretty good, and there is not much smog stuff to worry about, but the carb is just overall tired. I had to JB weld the top stud in, as it was boken out, shafts are sloppy etc... I think it would run good with a new carb.

You also mentioned jetting, I'm at 6200 feet, jetting down is needed for me usually, would you have some jet options available, as Toyota jets are hard to come by?

[MtnTrucker]

I don't care if your TBI solution looks like a stock carb or not and I'm more than happy to just put a cover plate over the stock fuel pump opening. What really matters to me is you can get 100% of everything you need in one bolt-on plug & play kit AND it really does work right AND reliably without 200 iterations of trial and error. That is currently what is keeping me away from TBI since from what I read it seems to take people forever to get the bugs worked out and get their units dialed in and running reliably.

If you can offer up a TBI solution that fits those criteria for a fair price, then I'm all over it.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by MoCoNative

I would be very interested in these. You'll be getting a PM.

Quick questions, is the boss/port there for the fuel return. I know these are settup without it, but just capping it off can be problematic. Can it be tapped for use if wanted?

Also on parts interchangebility, would a rebuild kit for a 2F carb work just fine in these? Will a toyota secondary diaghram work in it? Also, on the dizzy, will a petronix kit bolt in, and do you just order early cap and wires for tuneups?

Looks like a great product though and a great alternative. I tried to retrofit mine, ended up with a 77 high altitude 2F carb on my 73 1F. It works pretty good, and there is not much smog stuff to worry about, but the carb is just overall tired. I had to JB weld the top stud in, as it was boken out, shafts are sloppy etc... I think it would run good with a new carb.

You also mentioned jetting, I'm at 6200 feet, jetting down is needed for me usually, would you have some jet options available, as Toyota jets are hard to come by?

Researching your questions. I do know a stock secondary diaphragm will fit right in.

As far as the Pertronix I would say yes. That being said I have yet to install one. But until I can verify that I have to say no until I can say for a definite.

Boss port. Same as above. Though if you have a rich issue you could always run the later fuel pump.

Cap and wires. Will have all the numbers for the rebuilds later this month. GSMTR is stating tomorrow for me and well I'm leading it up. So please understand my mind is a little scrambled right now. Should be back to normal Mon.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by MtnTrucker

I don't care if your TBI solution looks like a stock carb or not and I'm more than happy to just put a cover plate over the stock fuel pump opening. What really matters to me is you can get 100% of everything you need in one bolt-on plug & play kit AND it really does work right AND reliably without 200 iterations of trial and error. That is currently what is keeping me away from TBI since from what I read it seems to take people forever to get the bugs worked out and get their units dialed in and running reliably.

If you can offer up a TBI solution that fits those criteria for a fair price, then I'm all over it.

I like your ways of thinking.

[chattfj40]

Marshall,

I'm with MtnTrucker...I'm going to do TBI at some point on the 40, but with all the issues I'm having with the new TD 80, I don't have the time to futz with it for months! If you can pull off a near bolt on set up, with a correctly programed PROM...I'll send the $$ ASAP.

Great work on the carbs and looking forward to the TBI setup!

see ya in a few days!!

Todd

[woooody]

So, I have a 72 with cable linkage -- How big of a PITA is it going to be to switch back to mechanical linkage, or is it possible to figure out a cable setup?

[eventhough]

I got to finger these at GSMTR and was pretty impressed guys.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by woooody

So, I have a 72 with cable linkage -- How big of a PITA is it going to be to switch back to mechanical linkage, or is it possible to figure out a cable setup?

I'm working on that. I'd much rather have an adapter made that will allow for the cable than to have you try to put the mechanical on it. Give me a little time to figure it out.

[woooody]

It would be sweet if that were possible