Events/Trails 80 Rubicon Trail Report

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I just got an email from Northwest fab that reads "We will have one available for the FJ80 in the next few months.

Kris
NWF"

Did you get any specifics? Doubler for the A343 transmission? Supposedly NWF started this project almost 3 years ago and it never went anywhere. Then 2 years ago somebody said they would start by offering a doubler for the FJ80 but only for those with GM engine/transmission swaps which kinda defeats the purpose to begin with. That never went anywhere either.

We'll have rock crawling hovercraft long before the 80 sees a doubler.
 
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Yeah, I read all those threads and knew better than to get excited, but couldn't help it, that would be so cool...

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I don't want to derail but how much can we move the Tcase back before the gas tank contact?
Also a new Atlas Tcase is about the same money & will get you to part time 4x4.
 
What effect does two pedaling have on transmission temperatures?

More than likely less than not two pedaling in technical terrain. Two pedal is an advance wheeling technique used by experienced drivers regularly. It can be the difference of making it or not on many obstacles.
 
I don't think the Atlas is available with offset rear output though so you would need a new rear end.

From what I have seen of the NWF Black Box you'll have to mod your fuel tank. Seems like you could buy the Man-A Fre extra capacity tank (which is steel) and change the portion you need to clear the extra length. Yes more $$ but if you would use the doubler it's worth while. Maybe if they do come up with one for the 80 it will be shorter than their other offerings.
 
@cybrstar- Rear sway bar disconnect? Just leave your front sway bar at home, it's much safer there. I really like my cruis'n off road skid plates. I installed both, for trans and transfercase. I'm not crazy about my skidplate also being the tranny cross member.

On 37's, 4" lift and ARB's front and rear my 80 eats the Rubicon up. Last month we trekked from Loon lake to Rubicon springs in just under 4.5 hours and that included a 20 minute stop at spider lake and multiple slower moving vehicles I had to overtake.

I suggest getting armored up and just going for it. You should do fine with one locker and a good spotter. Just be sure to give the vehicle a good once over making sure all your nuts are torqued like the steering knuckles, hubstuds, driveline's, lug nuts, large suspension bolts, etc. getting stuck a few times is nothing compared to a catastrophic failure especially due to unchecked hardware.

I would go with you but I will be out seeing some other states over most of September. Good luck and enjoy.
Tell me about being a noob in advanced land cruiser school. I had no clue the IPOR was in fact all that was holding up trans tranny. Not sure I dig the too much either.
 

As long as you have enough people to get out and push, a VW bus can do fine. When I was young, I was staying with a friend at Hot Creek hatchery off US 395 near Mammoth, when a family with two teen age girls drove their new VW camper down the back side of Hot Creek hot springs. When they saw all the hippies skinny dipping in the creek, they turned around and tried to drive out, but of course they got stuck. I tried to strap them out with my M38A1 (I couldn't afford a FJ40 back then), but I didn't have enough traction with open diffs. Then about 10 buck naked hippies got out of the spring and pushed that VW bus up the hill. At the top, that guy's wife was all up in his ear complaining about his lack of judgement. He tipped me $20, so I went to town and bought some beer and wine and went back and partied with the hippies. I used to be a VW mechanic and I had a 64 Westphalia camper and a 65 Kerman Ghia convertible. I wish I had never sold either of them.
 
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After a few trips through this trail THE VERY FIRST THING to do is remove the sway bars and strap them to the roof rack. This will prevent you from ripping them off at an inopportune moment which requires you to stop, block the trail, and finish what the rocks started. This will also negate the need for a friend with a welder to reattach the brackets for you at the Springs. Been there and done that. If not for Rick Cortez, Andy Pollock, Tom Ferrin and several other stalwart friends her truck would be up there as an artifact.

Secondly accept the fact that only the Pope can get through that trail totally clean. No way in Hell would I EVER EVEN THINK of subjecting a nice truck to that trail. I built a "rough" truck up for my wife for this very trail because I was not about to turn my pristine original sheet metal into a raisin.
 
Tell me about being a noob in advanced land cruiser school. I had no clue the IPOR was in fact all that was holding up trans tranny. Not sure I dig the too much either.
Yes but I have never heard/read a negative comment about the IPOR or the Slee belly plates.
 
More than likely less than not two pedaling in technical terrain. Two pedal is an advance wheeling technique used by experienced drivers regularly. It can be the difference of making it or not on many obstacles.
I did not know that was an advanced wheeling tech, I thought two pedaling was the poor boy locker out of pure desperation because lack of funds...
 
I did not know that was an advanced wheeling tech, I thought two pedaling was the poor boy locker out of pure desperation because lack of funds...

Not at all, very useful in fully locked vehicles. The technique is taught by several professional instructors. An excellent way to control your speed in tight technical terrain.

But you are correct as a way to add traction in an unlocked vehicle. Actually the technique of applying a few clicks of your emergency brake is mentioned in many factory Toyota owner manuals.
 
Not at all, very useful in fully locked vehicles. The technique is taught by several professional instructors. An excellent way to control your speed in tight technical terrain.

But you are correct as a way to add traction in an unlocked vehicle. Actually the technique of applying a few clicks of your emergency brake is mentioned in many factory Toyota owner manuals.
Only necessary with an auto trans and/or inadequate gearing.
 
As long as you have enough people to get out and push, a VW bus can do fine. When I was young, I was staying with a friend at Hot Creek hatchery off US 395 near Mammoth, when a family with two teen age girls drove their new VW camper down the back side of Hot Creek hot springs. When they saw all the hippies skinny dipping in the creek, they turned around and tried to drive out, but of course they got stuck. I tried to strap them out with my M38A1 (I couldn't afford a FJ40 back then), but I didn't have enough traction with open diffs. Then about 10 buck naked hippies got out of the spring and pushed that VW bus up the hill. At the top, that guy's wife was all up in his ear complaining about his lack of judgement. He tipped me $20, so I went to town and bought some beer and wine and went back and partied with the hippies. I used to be a VW mechanic and I had a 64 Westphalia camper and a 65 Kerman Ghia convertible. I wish I had never sold either of them.

I live up in Mammoth, and have pulled three vehicles out from the hotcreek area this year. No naked hippies though :/

I also used to have a 76 bus (around 2002), can't believe how much they sell for now.
 
Only necessary with an auto trans and/or inadequate gearing.

Maybe, but I left foot braked/3 pedaled my std trans rigs, have done it pretty much always. Controlling wheel slip/spin is key, brakes are a great tool to that goal.
 
Exactly what A-TRAC does.
 

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