1st gen Tundra vs. 80 series

[-Spike-]

I don't really think you know who or what kind of Tundra you guys are making fun of. The author of this thread has a HI-9 3link front, HI-9 4link rear all coil overs with jonneys, marlin crawler, Custom fuel cell, BFG Krawlers and so on. He was the first to Marlin a Tundra, First to SAS a Tundra, has custom harness built and is one clean rig and did it all while it was still under warenty. I has been built since day one and has had several different stages. There will be an article finally in Offroad on it soon. Since the write up it has been Linked and Coiled. The Tundra featured in 4wd toy owners is similar and maybe a more extreme being bobbed and having an atlas it is a stand out rig and has been mostly owner fabed.

Perhaps something was lost in translation. Taking his original post literally at face value, he's saying a stock Tundra will outwheel a stock 80, and the Tundra is so cheap and the 80 is so expensive to mod. Spend the time and money he has in the Tundra and there's no comparing it to any vehicle. I stand by my earlier post, the Tundra was not designed to traverse 'hardcore' terrain any more than the 80 was, and dollar for dollar/ hour for hour fabbing spent, the 80 is twice the vehicle hands down, until you get to the point that the original design is warped beyond recognition under the sheet metal.

-Spike

 

[icu_runnin]

Hey how did you photoshop the Tundra from oulling your 80 out to you pulling his Tundra out?? Man your good, that almost looks real but we all know the 80 sucks off road and would have sank like the tank it is

I must say I do thing the 1st gen Tundra does rock off road but it does not blow away an 80! I learned most of my wheeling from the passenger seat of my buddies Tundra and we have thrashed that thing and it is just about beat up enough to enter it into the Baja 250. Although the first time I wheeled with him I was the one strapping up his Tundra!

 

[GXO]

lots of head hitting going on around here...

 

[Spud]

From the original post...I would guess that he just does not know how to drive that style of truck.

I am guessing that he uses a lot of skinny and hits stuff hard. In a Tundra, (with less weight), he probably just bounces around and absorbs those hits.

 

[Romer]

I don't really think you know who or what kind of Tundra you guys . Except for a few stand outs not many built 80s see anything a stock locked 80 cant do.
FLAME ON

I was tempted to move this to chat but we seem to be keeping it civil


I take exception to this statement. I know a lot of built 80's that wheel places a stock 80 can't, I'm one of them.

In colorado we have lots of trails that have large and challenging obstacles, Like Chinamans Gulch for example.

I don't think a stock 80 could do Cliffhanger in Moab and there were a lot of 80's and even Lexusbens built 100 doing that trail,

My 80 is built with a supercharger and is not underpowered.

 

[zombiekiller]

I don't really think you know who or what kind of Tundra you guys are making fun of. The author of this thread has a HI-9 3link front, HI-9 4link rear all coil overs with jonneys, marlin crawler, Custom fuel cell, BFG Krawlers and so on. He was the first to Marlin a Tundra, First to SAS a Tundra, has custom harness built and is one clean rig and did it all while it was still under warenty. I has been built since day one and has had several different stages. There will be an article finally in Offroad on it soon. Since the write up it has been Linked and Coiled. The Tundra featured in 4wd toy owners is similar and maybe a more extreme being bobbed and having an atlas it is a stand out rig and has been mostly owner fabed.

I'm sorry he may have hurt some feelings here he hurt mine the first time I met him but his tundra could out wheel an 80 any day except at the mall. I have a built 80 he has the Slee school bus. I like my 80 I have driven the tundra and worked on it a lot. In the rocks and in the mud 80's are a joke when going up against a 4runner, taco, or a SAS tundra. Sure we have locks stock and 80s are preety good but when the going gets rough we get dented. Saying that I still have mine I'm not a Rocker. I like my wagon but when it comes to hard core it is to big, to heavy, has to much sheet metal and glass, and is $$$ to have the body straightened out. Towing, in the mud, and in the sand it is slow but I don't mind I like them. They are super easy to mod and make a wheeler and if I can only have one rig make it an 80 but there are better vehicles for different purposes. Slee doesn't even wheel a full sized 80.

I know I may not be making any friends but very few of you guys know a wrench from your ass but at least you try. Look at the threads. The 80 community is very sheltered and when a guys that really wheels or wrenches take a look at our forum they laugh. Except for a few stand outs not many built 80s see anything a stock locked 80 cant do.
FLAME ON

any 4wd vehicle that you throw 30 grand out will outperform any mildly modified 4wd vehicle regardless of what it is.

the comparison the tundra guy is making is like comparing a genetically engineered super fighting chicken to a chicken with thumbtacks taped to it's legs and questioning why anyone would want a chicken for fighting.

there are a whole bunch of people here who wheel the piss out of thier 80s. and a whole lot of people on here that have a pretty well modified 80 that they play in, but also have a heavily modified 40 or 60 that they get stupid in.

a tundra nor an 80 are the end all be all of off road vehicles, but some people choose to run them and love them, an 80 is great for just about everything except stomping on the gas pedal and rolling.... by tundra guys logic we should all just run right out and buy a turnkey super buggy that was "made" to wheel all " hardcore" because anything else aside from his tundra will never stand up.

 

[TCH2FLY]

I think an FJ-45 is a better wheeler than a Tundra and I base my decision on this vehicle...

 

[Bluetribal]

Hey how did you photoshop the Tundra from oulling your 80 out to you pulling his Tundra out?? Man your good, that almost looks real but we all know the 80 sucks off road and would have sank like the tank it is

Obviously you are being sarcastic but that was my second trip out and I was SHOCKED how well I did in the sand...
I wasn't even aired down that night obviously my buddies Tundra wasn't either, he never does. I am just now learning to air down. But the next day we were on Superstition Dune where I did air down and I ran all over that hill.

 

[icu_runnin]

Sorry but had to take a shot at the stuck tundra with all this mumbo jumbo going on around here

 

[stayalert]

meh

tech - my '94 80 has the vented d pillars (behind the rear sliding windows) I know they're for venting cabin air when closing a door but now I know they also prevent the truck from exploding when the volume of the size of the owners head and ego exceeds the capacity of the unvented cabin......Hopefully Tundras are similarly equipped....

My 80 is perfect for my needs - If my needs change I will either mod it to suit or change vehicles.

 

[FJ809496TLC]

Why are we comparing Tundra to an 80? It's not even in the same category.

 

[stayalert]

Why are we comparing Tundra to an 80? It's not even in the same category.

true. and my VW TDI gets way better mileage than the 13-15 mpg I'm getting with my 80.

apples vs. ???????

 

[motoloco]

built like his tundra, it could have been an S-10 or a buggy for that matter. that is a totally different class. The guy is an idiot to compare the two

 

[97 FZJ80]

I own both - a Tundra and a 80. So either way this thread goes, I have at least a winner

 

[Spud]

I own both - a Tundra and a 80. So either way this thread goes, I have at least a winner

So which is the chit?

 

[landtank]

the Tundra guy is a knucklehead. If you're going to pass out some comparison advice at least lay out the vehicles you are comparing. I'm sure his extremely built Tundra will out perform most mildly built 80s.

My biggest issue was with his demeaning description of who we are as far as how we use our vehicles and what we call off-roading.

So he spent a butt load of cash and now he thinks he's king $h*t, good for him.

 

[TiredIronGRB]

I'd like to wheel with him.

 

[Newps]

I do not even know where to begin with this; it's such an apples to oranges comparison. I guess the biggest disservice he did to the original posted was not defining clearly what he was comparing. There a very few SAS Tundra’s, most lack the skills needed to even attempt this type of conversion (myself included). This guys Tundra does sound like a killer rock machine. I would say that the Ultimate 80 built by Ken Hanna would give this guy a run for his money in the rocks and is a more even comparison. The biggest advantage of an 80 is you can make them very capably with a small lift and 35 inch tires. Way more capable then a say Tundra with a 6 inch lift and 35 inch tires. Once you start cutting things out (aka SAS) you are no long comparing a Tundra to another vehicle. This guy’s advice was just bad and bias towards his super modified Tundra.

 

[cary]

I know I may not be making any friends but very few of you guys know a wrench from your ass but at least you try. Look at the threads. The 80 community is very sheltered and when a guys that really wheels or wrenches take a look at our forum they laugh. Except for a few stand outs not many built 80s see anything a stock locked 80 cant do.
FLAME ON

Boy what a way to engage in an intellectual discussion, are you this socially inept in person?

 

[MomentRider]

I owned an 03 tundra and now own a 96 LX450......Other then tires and coilovers the tundra was stock and it is a badass truck but no rockcrawler. The tundra shines in high spead desert type running. I would never feel comfortable taking the LX450 at half the speed I can drive the tundra in the sand.

My LX is brand new and I havent lifted it yet (2 weeks) but stock it is better then the tundra in the rocks and trails.

We are compairing two different vehicles....They both are great vehicles but shine in different areas. In a perfect world I would have the tundra V8 in my LX....I cant even imagine the power of the new Tundra!