jealous!! i tried to get that steering set up for 18 months but couldn’t get a reply!! hope you love it!
Builds 1973 FJ 40 Build,Vortec,NV4500,Atlas,Diamond
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I can say it did take a fair bit of persistence to get this stuff. I think these guys are just so busy with their bigger ticket items that I was small potatoes. I just kept at em and finally came through. I'm using Marlins bearings, 25mm pins, and these arms are set up for that
Your bellhousing and mount must be different, but the input shaft of the transmission is constant, so IDK. Here is a pic of my slave cylinder for reference. Hope your build is going well.
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I'll get a pic of mine today for you to compare
Hey 64Rotorhead, would you please tell me why you went with Diamond Axles? I've been thinking of going with Dana 60's, but there are several custom axles out there like Diamond, Trailgear, Ruffstuff. Some use Ford 9", others Dana. I like the idea of going with a high pinion D60 rear to help the driveline angles. Custom Axle Design fabricates these. I'm too the point to were I need to order or build axles and would appreciate your opinion. Also, what axle width did you go with, WMS to WMS? I'm thinking 65" width for my rig. Thanks,
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Well let's see why I chose Diamonds. I have always intended to go with a wider axle. I'm using FJ60 width axles on my 40. As I am SOA I wanted a bit wider stance. I could have done all the work to a 60 housing, but I've heard some guys have bent them. Not that I'm all that hardcore, but hey, it's stout! Some guys said why not go 80 width, but that's just too wide for me, I'm not gonna be real hardcore driving, and I wanna drive it to the trail as well, not that you couldn't do something about fenders I guess if you went wider. Obviously the Diamond is tough, ⅜" thick. I also liked the inner seal they have next to the 3rd. I stayed with Toyota base outers, cause, well, just cause. The housing has the gussets on the knuckle balls that Diamond offers. I went with Marlins bigger knuckle bearings in TG 6 shooters along with 4x4 Labs steering set up.I have RCV axles inside with 300M birfs. In the rear, I flipped 60 length springs and moved the axle back about 3-4" for wheel base extension. I've checked my angles and length for rear d/s and think I'll be good. Of course with the 60 width you need to outboard the front. I don't recall the exact WMS measurements. This site has some measurements: Toyota Axle Widths: 21 of 'em for Axle Swaps But you will find that the more you research the more numbers you come up with
I just specified stock FJ60 width when I ordered. Hope this helps, I'm happy to answer any questions that I can. I'm a newbie at this though, full discloser. I get my info right here on Mud
another advantage is the rear center diff for running an atlas!
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Oh yeah! How could I forget that?!
what angle is your rear axle pointing up at? mine is needing a new fill plug as i think i'll be rotating it up high enough i wont get enough oil fill it also means my brakes will likely be rotated down more as well not sure i love that but it is what it is.
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Mine
yeah are you having that problem?
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Well I’m just having Diamond locate my filler properly and not weld on my perches so I can position them
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Sorry, I’m trying to do this on iPhone, I’ll get back later on ipad
I'll chime in here since it may be of value to you. I was talking to my axle guy yesterday, regarding his dana 60 axles. He said to keep the pinion between 5-7* to keep oil to the pinion. If you read other sources, they say to point the pinion up to the TC, and for our applications, the angle is likely more than his recommended 5-7*. Im sure pointing the pinion to the TC is best for the DS, but not necessarily for the pinion. So, I dont know the right answer. Maybe a higher filler plug is it. Maybe pointing up your pinion up to a recommended maximum is a happy medium.
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My driveshaft guy says to keep about 2 degrees below the shaft slope. You don’t want the pinion point straight at the TC, just the 2 degrees down. So I’m doing that as well as filler plug as needed
So it sounds like Jclhanner says the 5-7 would be about right
So it sounds like Jclhanner says the 5-7 would be about right
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yes i’ve done mine 2 degrees down from drive shaft angle. with the short wheelbase and spring over i’m sitting at about 21 degrees up at my pinion flange. ill be using a double cardan joint. pointing it up 5-7 degrees would be what you’d want if you were going with standard u joints trying to keep them parallel to the output flange of the transfer case no? my drive shaft will be too steep to run it that way i think
If u have a traction bar you shouldn't get any axle rotation.
@White Stripe that’s true. i could probably point it straight at the transfer case. my bigger question is will the two of us using this set up “need” a double cardan or will a parallel pinion to transfer case set up work. i fear it’s too steep.
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Im planning a double cardan
