Timing belt job just done. Blown engine or savable? This is interesting guys!

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Holy crap you got it running! Wooooo that is awesome! Great work! Pretty amazing there was no damaged valves with that cam gear flipping.

I googled for a few hours last week, and it seems you may be the first person on the net to post detailed photos of the cam pin lol

I've worked along side many mechanics that never used a torque wrench. Some things you can get away without setting the proper torque, but a cam bolt is definitely not one of them.
 
Great find Paul! Excellent work, as usual, too! While every tech doesn't have to do the restorative work you do, they AT LEAST have to do the basic job CORRECTLY. This clearly was not done. The wrench that hacked this job in the first place should give a full refund of their labor or pay for the work you did, whichever is greater.
 
Wow, absolutely fabulous work and kudos to saving a good engine! This thread has been a very educational read. Bravo!
 
That crank seal does not look like its been replaced, however the red seal is different than what was on my 05 LC that had never been changed. Also the Toyota OEM Crank Seal 90311-A0001 I replaced during my last TB service with was black not red. Have you ever come across a red crank seal?
 
Holy crap you got it running! Wooooo that is awesome! Great work! Pretty amazing there was no damaged valves with that cam gear flipping.

I googled for a few hours last week, and it seems you may be the first person on the net to post detailed photos of the cam pin lol

I've worked along side many mechanics that never used a torque wrench. Some things you can get away without setting the proper torque, but a cam bolt is definitely not one of them.
I spent a lot of time and posted additional thread trying to find out,if pin free floating or pressed in. Conclusion was pressed. @Moore80 facetimed with me, and tried to pull his out. No go. Lack of anyone stepping forward or any of my best parts diagrams or guys find one. All indicated pressed in Which is was!
Great find Paul! Excellent work, as usual, too! While every tech doesn't have to do the restorative work you do, they AT LEAST have to do the basic job CORRECTLY. This clearly was not done. The wrench that hacked this job in the first place should give a full refund of their labor or pay for the work you did, whichever is greater.
Thanks Dace and you are so right.
Wow, absolutely fabulous work and kudos to saving a good engine! This thread has been a very educational read. Bravo!
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That crank seal does not look like its been replaced, however the red seal is different than what was on my 05 LC that had never been changed. Also the Toyota OEM Crank Seal 90311-A0001 I replaced during my last TB service with was black not red. Have you ever come across a red crank seal?
I'm not sure I'll need to revue pictures. Since I never replace any (not to date, as never seen the need) of the 3 seals I may not have many pic. But also keep in mind, this is a second Timing belt job (3rd with me). Could have been crank seal done at 90K. Additional month of production and suppliers at Toyota may vary.
 
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The 2uz continues to impress. Nice work.
Thanks.
Is this still the same truck??
Same truck that was towed in drove out which both videos are of. Second video was because my camera stop at ~7 minutes so I started recording again, so it's after about 7 minutes of idling and warmed up...
 
Let me add. Anyone can miss torquing a bolt. It happens.

As of today I'm starting a new procedure. I'm marking each bolts as I torque them as a visual aid in final inspection.. That way if a bolt comes loose, I'll know either wasn't torqued or something else going on that need investigating..
 
Let me add. Anyone can miss torquing a bolt. It happens.

As of today I'm starting a new procedure. I'm marking each bolts as I torque them as a visual aid in final inspection.. That way if a bolt comes loose, I'll know either wasn't torqued or something else going on that need investigating..

I like to use utility/lawn marking tape (a big roll is like $3 that people use for marking deer stand trails for example). I tie it around every hose/part I disconnect and on bolts I just push the bolt through it and thread it in loosely as I assemble everything. It's impossible to miss torquing a bolt this way and is fast to do. You pull the tape and tighten.

I think marking bolts is a great idea too. The tape has just been a way I've done it for years and it works quite well.

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Let me add. Anyone can miss torquing a bolt. It happens.

As of today I'm starting a new procedure. I'm marking each bolts as I torque them as a visual aid in final inspection.. That way if a bolt comes loose, I'll know either wasn't torqued or something else going on that need investigating..


paint pen is a friend, we use them often at work
new construction equipment has marks all over the bolts for that reason
 
paint pen is a friend, we use them often at work
new construction equipment has marks all over the bolts for that reason
This- ^^👍. Kind a must do for a number of good reasons. Good practice to use one on all torqued nuts & bolts- engine & chassis.
 
I hear you!

The shop I'm currently contemplating, is here at my home. I'd like to cut through back of my garage and build a shop in the back. Shop would have room and height for a lift. I'd like wash/detail area a paint booth also. I've a lot of dreams for it. It's kind of like when I need a tool. I make do with what I have.

But if I was to open a commercial shop, as I've been approached too. It would not be like the typical shop. It would be a restoration quality shop. It would be time and materials and not this book rate stuff that put guys under the time crunch..

As our 100s (and 200s) age, we will need a resto shop like The FJ Company - Custom Built For Today's Driver . This could be your niche, Paul!
 
Paint Marker it is! Where do I pick them up, Wall Mart, arts & crafts, auto parts store.?

Tape is interest idea. But with grimy gloves on, I see that slowing me. Also I'm pressed for room in my tool boxes, shop and storage, even my tape draw is packed. That's not and option for me at this time. I need a bigger shop for even one more tool, and I've so many on my wish list now..

As I've opened my shop up to those in mud this last year. I've learned the issue of improper repairs is much more wide spread than I imaged.

Anyway this was and interesting diagnostic and repair exercises. I was so happy when it fired up.:bounce::bounce2:

I'll put it up with one I'm the most proud of, that was just diagnostic. Inoperable A/C, that so many differ Toyota Dealerships (5 IIRC), A/C specialist and shade-tree mechanic try and failed to get it working.
Water entry was the cause of this one:
I had one other leaky windshield last year. Where windshield wipers would come on automatically in snow and rain storms, and not on demand with the switch. It was pre auto rain sensing and again due to water entry. I never wrote that one up.

I've two now that I've not written up. One is a interesting brake issue the other CATs. I'm learning a ton on these two, I hope/plan to share in mud!

So far about every interest case that the forum has help me with and been a part of diagnosing & repair. I can point to either improper PM or the wrong procedure during service itself.

So many have no idea, when they drive away from any shop. Damage has been done or being done as they drive. Error happen even in rock ships, we're human and make mistakes. But some of these shop are taking advantage of the uninformed, and some our messing up our rigs for negligence.

Some of these shop are just crooks. @Ali FJ80 had made mention of a local shop near me in the 200 section, ToyLex. Last year I had one of their timing belt job in my shop. I noticed oil from front weep hole. These SOB salted an oil pan bolt with oil, when client bough back in to them to inspect the oil weep. He had two other shops mess stuff up the same years and one didn't correct or inform, a brake rotor issue.

Here's one that been in multiple top shops in the area, for PM. Owner did everything right. He wanted the best for his rig. They missed the mark badly. This one was headed for for big trouble within miles. He'd been lucky if spark plug blew out the head, which it was about to. Because his engine was head for certain overheating.

I'm learning everyday and I make mistakes. But I take my time a strive to get better daily working on these 100 series. I do have the advantage of specializing on 100 & 200 series. So I'm not having to learn other makes and models. It why I can see things other miss.

Some use the term OCD. No, it's workmanship and pride in a job well done.

Above all else, I feel integrity and honesty is of the utmost importance.
 
As our 100s (and 200s) age, we will need a resto shop like The FJ Company - Custom Built For Today's Driver . This could be your niche, Paul!
For that I would need a full commercial shop.
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This must be the shop @gungriffin was just telling me about when he stop last week to drop off a part for me. Which was so nice of him. It's a part for yet one more, a shop (Middas) messed up!
 
Paint Marker it is! Where do I pick them up, Wall Mart, arts & crafts, auto parts store.?

I use a silver Sharpie Permanent Marker and a black Milwaukee Inkzall. Between the silver and the black there's basically nothing that you can't write on. I think the Sharpie was from Walmart, the Milwaukee from Home Depot. They are both fine point. I write location descriptions on the sides of bolts, where there's no thread obviously. When something is really oily I clean it up a bit first, but they both write pretty well on dirty surfaces.

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Fastenal supplies us at our shop with paint pens, black, white, red, yellow
welding supply shop should have them also.
 
Ive been getting mine at local hobby shop- yellow or orange
 
For that I would need a full commercial shop.
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This must be the shop @gungriffin was just telling me about when he stop last week to drop off a part for me. Which was so nice of him. It's a part for yet one more, a shop (Middas) messed up!

I am happy to help. The shop that I was talking about was Icon 4x4. It is owned by a guy named Jonathan Ward. They started with 40 series, but are now doing 40, 60 and 80 series. They will do a period correct build, but seem to prefer doing restomods.

What an unexpected finding from the compression issues with this truck. This DEFINITELY has me adding a check to ensure that I check the torque on all bolts when I finish a job. Here is a pretty good thread on Pirate about what people use to mark bolts. Paint pen/marker suggestions - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

I am going to pick up some Markal Red-Riter pencils.
 

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