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Cylinder 2

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Cylinder 3

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Cylinder 4

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Cylinder 5

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Cylinder 6. Piston has carbon build up which knocks down with a plastic scraper

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We will also measure the bores next weekend. We will be pulling the oil pan and bottom end bearings to do some more plastigauge measurements. We will also be inspecting the piston rings and glands.
 
We also pulled the lifters which showed some webcracks and pitting. This was the only component that seems to be of issue and will be replaced.

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Depending on measurements on bores, we will hone and rebuild motor.
 
CD you need to apply clean oil to the cylinder walls since you throughly cleaned them with laquer thinner. It will inhibit rust but more importantly you still need some lubrication for the remaining dissassembly steps.
 
@76 FJ40, good suggestion. We think alike. We did swab it with oil. :).
 
I didn't see any safety glasses when cleaning the cylinder head. Yeah, I know we all do that sort of thing once in a while. Except me. I don't, because if my wife caught me not using safety equipment...
 
I didn't see any safety glasses when cleaning the cylinder head. Yeah, I know we all do that sort of thing once in a while. Except me. I don't, because if my wife caught me not using safety equipment...

Good catch. Much appreciated!
 
What causes the web cracking and pitting?

I have a PM dialogue with @crushers on this. I cannot confirm if the lifters we took out are OEM. @crushers, having rebuilt a ton of these motors has seen this as usual. Perhaps he can chime in.
 
My 2H is trashed

Shows same lifter issue. Unsure of motor mileage.

We will be pulling the pistons and inspecting/ measuring rings/glands. Want to make sure ring failure does not happen and confirm that rings have not eaten into pistons. Reportedly happens on 2H and 12HT engines (see article below). My older son Liam has been trolling Mud and found it.

12HT engine rebuild

Incidentally, ring failure has occurred on 12HTs.

Second link above suggests getting 12HT Alfin piston ring inserts. Need to look into whether they can be put on 2H pistons in standard size as an upgrade to 2H piston rings. Anyone done this??

We are not planning on 12HT pistons as part of the rebuild at the current time.

There is plenty of good run time on 2HT with mild boost (<10psi) on 2H pistons and robust engine cooling. @mongoose2231 and tons Outback have vetted the run time.
 
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Engine Australia - website seems down, and SMS Diesel smsdiesel.com.au have rebuild kits and pistons, etc for the 2H.


2H Alfin pistons in different sizes std, .50 and 1.0mm ART brand from Japan. They also have liners to match as well. Did you determine if you 2H has liners or not? Is your 2H out of an HJ47, HJ60 or HJ75? Seems like there might be some small difference there, not sure.
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I used engine australia for liners/pistons and rebuild kit. I have Alfin pistons in my 13BT. A lot of Japanese bearings/parts for it. Seems like quality. I can't vouch for SMS but have read a few good things on it.

As I stated in the diesel section, I would replace those lifters and honestly rebuild the whole thing to make it reliable for another 30+ years. They don't look good which makes me really wonder about the camshaft. Take it to a machine shop and let them look it over and go from there.
 
No liners on this motor. It is >1985. I usually tell it is a non liner engine if it has a nut attached to the front timing cover in front of the injection pump. We will be pulling the camshaft. If items are within FSM spec, we will reuse. Otherwise change. Agree. Lifters will be replaced.

Once we tear down the motor we will bring it to spec.
 
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@gerg shared some thoughts on the cylinder bores and lifters. Looks like lifters have been run in even worse conditions according to him. Good to know. I will keep them as spares but plan on replacing them.

@Cowboy45 also got more safety tips;).


I wouldn't worry about the carbon too much. It's where the rings start seating on the cylinders when the piston reaches the top of its stroke. Top dead center they call it. The rest of the cylinders get wiped clean by the rings but because the rings sit lower in the piston it doesnt make contact all the way up. If you're want you can clean it gently with some scotch brite. I find a shop vac works wonders for sucking the junk out of cylinders when I work on them. Compressed air just blows the junk on another part of the work area.

Will you be doing a full rebuild on your engine? Have you talked with your dad about reinforced alfin pistons? Now would be a great time to change them.

I've run lifters that looked worse than that with pitting and such. These old engines run relatively soft valve springs so they don't put a lot of force onto the lifter face your looking at. Replacing them would be a good idea but if your on a budget I'd run them. If they haven't come apart in the last 40yrs I don't think there going to do it any time soon. It is possible to replace them later when the engine is back together in the truck. I've looked into haveing them resurfaced and my machinist said they are too thin unfortunately. Well at least they are on a 3B, the 4 cylinder version of the motor your working on.

Here's a link for some parts.
Valve lifter 2H

On a side note, my daughters are 10 and 12 and we just picked up a 1978 BJ40 were restoring. Wear a mask when your spraying or grinding stuff and it's a lot easier to take a pair of nitrile gloves off as oppose to try and wash your hands clean every time you work and always wear eye protection. Cuts heal and you can live ok missing a few fingers but an eye you cannot.

Enjoy!
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Edit. I just noticed you have gloves on. Awsome.
 
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Also uploading some pics of the rocker arm pads (I=Intake, E=Exhaust). Pic are arranged by the cylinder # they serve. Overall, it looks pretty good. Curious about the square shaped outline on some of the rocker arm pads. Looks OEM and too good to be weared perfect.

These pics are also posted in the diesel section in the link @Cowboy45 shared earlier.

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@gerg what are your thoughts on rocker arms? Seems like each Exhaust rocker arm has a squared out imprint compared to the intake arms. Almost as if they are meant to be different. I will need to check with supplier or @beno to see if they are meant to be this way or flat without inprint
 

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