Nightmare Covid Shop Build

[PAToyota]

She came back in and said just buy an adapter for the plug! This is the code now Is what he said.

Then he doesn't understand either the code or the wiring involved...

If you're running a dryer, it is the code that you need four wires - two hots, neutral, and ground.

For a welder, plasma, compressor, or other 240V equipment with no 120V components then all you need is three wires - two hots and a ground.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

I agree with you 100%. Just not a thing a can do about until it’s finished and inspected. Then later on I can change it to what I need. It’s the most stupidest thing ever! But by far not as bad as the plumber I fired. We just want them to finish and kindly go f’off

 

[Hugh Heifer]

Damn Ray. I get anxiety just reading all this. Hang in there.
It does look nice.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

22yrs ago,, and the stupid adapter—-

 

[landcrusiergod1]

Welded up a rocket stove. Finally over Covid…

 

[LINUS]

Then he doesn't understand either the code or the wiring involved...

If you're running a dryer, it is the code that you need four wires - two hots, neutral, and ground.

For a welder, plasma, compressor, or other 240V equipment with no 120V components then all you need is three wires - two hots and a ground.

Too many variables - state -to- state code, how building is classed (ADU or plain shop), etc.

Here in WA this was the case with a straight-up pole building shop / 4 prong 220V outlets.
And that was nearly a decade ago.

All my welders & plasma is 220V & we had a bunch of old used Hubbell plugs / 6/3 cable that was worn-out refinery extension cables, so I built 2) 3 prong female > 4 prong male adapters.

There’s a washer / dryer in the shop bathroom, so it made all the 220 outlets 4 prong. I remember that clearly & being annoyed too.

IDK if no appliance / bathroom would have changed it, wasn’t a battle I chose to get into.

 

[PAToyota]

Too many variables - state -to- state code, how building is classed (ADU or plain shop), etc.

Nope. If you have an outlet for 240V only equipment you only need three wires. Just have them explain what to connect the neutral to on 240V equipment.

Only if you have an outlet for split 240V/120V equipment (such as a dryer or range) do you need four wires so you can supply a neutral to the 120V portion. In a residential setting it would be somewhat rare to have three wire 240V outlets because most times 240V equipment is hard wired - such as a water heater - and only appliances (which more likely are split 240V/120V) would have plugs, so residential electricians may just have the "four wire is necessary" ground into their heads. Challenge them to show you in the code where you need four wires for a 240V only outlet. Having an electrician - or inspector - tell you that you need four wires is different from it being required by code. Professionally I spend a lot of time working through what a contractor, inspector, or local official "thinks" the code says vs. what it actually says.

I have a number of non-dedicated 240V outlets throughout my residential woodworking shop so that I could move my tablesaw, planer, dust collector, and wide belt sander around. All are three wire outlets. Similarly, in my residential auto/metalworking shop I have dedicated 240V three wire outlets for my compressor and TIG welder as well as non-dedicated 240V three wire outlets for my MIG and plasma at various locations throughout the shop. Everything fully meets codes.

 

[MrMikeyG]

I like the hvac ambulance. I ran into a builder out here who has a former Swat scene command/ambulance for his rig. He said he got it at auction for some ridiculous low price about 10 years ago. (like under 5k). He also says he has people pull over for him a lot. Ha ha.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

Passed final inspection today! Should have power on tomorrow.

 

[Broski]

They even messed up the recess in the concrete that the roll up door is supposed to drop down into to keep rain water out.

Over all the building is looking good, I just notice things like that being a builder my hole life.

 

[PIP]

They even messed up the recess in the concrete that the roll up door is supposed to drop down into to keep rain water out.

Over all the building is looking good, I just notice things like that being a builder my hole life.

And what's up with the huge gap at the top of the garage door?

 

[Broski]

And what's up with the huge gap at the top of the garage door?

Ventilation

 

[landcrusiergod1]

They fixed that yesterday, the roll up door gap. And yes the door Concerete drop is wrong.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

We are doing the concrete covering epoxy with the flakes. Gonna farm that out, medical stuff for me is overwhelming. Hyperbaric chamber 4 times a week, have dental surgery to remove some infected teeth from radiation 11yrs ago/ later this month. ——There is a company in town that does garage floors they wanted $10k to cover it. So we looked at prices and we can buy the supplies for around a $1k.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

Work trailer wheel fell off the other day. Robbed a complete hub and wheel/ tire from the other trailer at work. - just a pump or two of grease for the long hauls and a couple pumps every 2 or 3 months would of prevented this. That and shacking the wheel for loose wheel bearings.

 

[landcrusiergod1]

At Mardi Krawl - Richard sheared off all the studs off the hub. Excellent drill and easy out work. Used my spare hub stud kit to get him back driving the rest of the weekend.

 

[Broski]

Work trailer wheel fell off the other day. Robbed a complete hub and wheel/ tire from the other trailer at work. - just a pump or two of grease for the long hauls and a couple pumps every 2 or 3 months would of prevented this. That and shacking the wheel for loose wheel bearings.

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Annual maintenance is a better idea. Pumping grease in will ultimately contaminate the break shoes with grease

Ask me how I know

 

[Broski]

At Mardi Krawl - Richard sheared off all the studs off the hub. Excellent drill and easy out work. Used my spare hub stud kit to get him back driving the rest of the weekend.

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Checking your flange bolts for proper torque specifications regularly ( befor each run) will greatly reduce this Issue !!

 

[landcrusiergod1]

A year ago we started this build. Today we get a driveway and power! Almost an end to the nightmare!

 

[landcrusiergod1]

Had to take the night time picture for those bright lights. Almost done - the nightmare is ending!