Cruisers and Company 80 Series Turbo (3 Viewers)

[Cruisers and Co]

Thanks Johnny.
Any more details and prospects on the Stage 2 kit?

Yes, now that we've been able to do some thorough testing in hot weather from 5k to 11k ft...


Stage 2 will be available soon as an all together or a la carte build your own as you go setup

ECU - EcuMasters Emu Black configured to be plug and play with 93-94 and 95-97 wiring harnesses. This is ran in a piggyback setup with the factory ecu/tcu controlling the trans. This is just controlling the engine and will include a tune that is drivable from the first boot up. No trans control at this time - we have some trans stuff in the works and had no desire spending the time/resources creating a tune for the a343 and a442 when we have something better coming.

Harness - patch harness that is pnp to connect ecu to factory harness without cutting any wires. Will include provisions for CAN, COP, wideband, updated knock sensors and more

Injectors/Fuel - PNP 800CC Injectors, Fuel Pressure Regulator and all the fittings necessary to make that fit on the rail

Fuel Pump - 340 L/hr with a wiring kit to run properly sized wires to the pump.

Intercooler - you guys have seen that in the other thread.


Should have plenty of headroom for people to really make power out of the 1FZ. The current test rigs have been just epic to drive at higher boost levels.

 

[cruisermatt]

now that's what's up.

 

[SNLC]

116* IAT!? What?

Looking forward to seeing this first hand.

Cheers

 

[cruisermatt]

116* IAT!? What?

Looking forward to seeing this first hand.

Cheers

It's pretty common to have 150-200F temp drop on a decent A2A setup.
I'd be interested in what the pre-IC core temps are.
@Cruisers and Co hopefully you've got another sensor in the compressor outlet too?

 

[Cruisers and Co]

It's pretty common to have 150-200F temp drop on a decent A2A setup.
I'd be interested in what the pre-IC core temps are.
@Cruisers and Co hopefully you've got another sensor in the compressor outlet too?

Unfortunately I don’t have one plumbed pre but…. We’re bringing a standalone ecu engine online today for the first time and will be able to see soon what a 7lb’er looks like since it has its own IAT sensor and is non intercooler at this point

 

[Mjones]

Yes, now that we've been able to do some thorough testing in hot weather from 5k to 11k ft...


Stage 2 will be available soon as an all together or a la carte build your own as you go setup

ECU - EcuMasters Emu Black configured to be plug and play with 93-94 and 95-97 wiring harnesses. This is ran in a piggyback setup with the factory ecu/tcu controlling the trans. This is just controlling the engine and will include a tune that is drivable from the first boot up. No trans control at this time - we have some trans stuff in the works and had no desire spending the time/resources creating a tune for the a343 and a442 when we have something better coming.

Harness - patch harness that is pnp to connect ecu to factory harness without cutting any wires. Will include provisions for CAN, COP, wideband, updated knock sensors and more

Injectors/Fuel - PNP 800CC Injectors, Fuel Pressure Regulator and all the fittings necessary to make that fit on the rail

Fuel Pump - 340 L/hr with a wiring kit to run properly sized wires to the pump.

Intercooler - you guys have seen that in the other thread.


Should have plenty of headroom for people to really make power out of the 1FZ. The current test rigs have been just epic to drive at higher boost levels.

Nice. Will the ‘trans stuff’ still involve retaining the a343 and a442?

 

[simple]

and an intercooler.....

how about a charge cooler? More complicated but takes up less space. Race car style so bonus points

 

[efjayatee]

Unfortunately I don’t have one plumbed pre but…. We’re bringing a standalone ecu engine online today for the first time and will be able to see soon what a 7lb’er looks like since it has its own IAT sensor and is non intercooler at this point

Is this OBD1? Is it mine?

 

[Fosters]

It's pretty common to have 150-200F temp drop on a decent A2A setup.
I'd be interested in what the pre-IC core temps are.
@Cruisers and Co hopefully you've got another sensor in the compressor outlet too?

Don’t forget you’ll be mounting up mine bud

 

[scottryana]

how about a charge cooler? More complicated but takes up less space. Race car style so bonus points

What do you mean by a charge cooler? An intercooler is a charge cooler. Do you mean an air to water vs an air to air intercooler? Or do you mean using A/C like the Dodge Demon to further chill the water in their air to water intercooler?

 

[SNLC]

It's pretty common to have 150-200F temp drop on a decent A2A setup.
I'd be interested in what the pre-IC core temps are.
@Cruisers and Co hopefully you've got another sensor in the compressor outlet too?

We are mostly building diesels and monitor EGTs.

I can say on my FZJ80 though I have seen upwards of 170* IAT idling in traffic, A/C on high and 110+* ambient. Asphalt is radiating upwards of 150* or more on days like this.

Cheers

 

[cruisermatt]

We are mostly building diesels and monitor EGTs.

I can say on my FZJ80 though I have seen upwards of 170* IAT idling in traffic, A/C on high and 110+* ambient. Asphalt is radiating upwards of 150* or more on days like this.

Cheers

IAT idling in traffic doesn't really matter since there's no load, and no airflow across your intercooler other then from your radiator fan which is nothing compared to full frontal area 60-90mph airflow. what are your IAT's under boost? Do you have an intercooler?

 

[SNLC]

IAT idling in traffic doesn't really matter since there's no load, and no airflow across your intercooler other then from your radiator fan which is nothing compared to full frontal area 60-90mph airflow. what are your IAT's under boost? Do you have an intercooler?

No need to monitor IATs on a diesel, EGTs is what matters.

I hear ya on idle vs air flow, not a newb bro. Just surprised at that low of an IAT at that ambient and under that load not to mention a cooker under the hood (turbo) raising under hood temps.

I been monitoring my 1FZFE like a hawk (Scangauge) since I built it, over 20k miles on it now. My main displays are water temp, IAT, RPM and volts. I am extremely familiar with where a 1FZFE runs at 0-115* ambient, load, timing, (stock vs advanced) stock fan clutch vs modified, old cooling system vs new and fresh, ect ect.

We are installing one of these kits with intercooler on a 1FZFE we built from the crank up so again excited to see that-this play out.

Cheers

 

[cruisermatt]

You'll really like it. one thing I will definietly say is go catless and 3". On @Fosters it made a nice differnece, unfortunaltely I didn't have my Dragy yet to do a comparison run.

On the RC Tuning 80 we just build we ran it 0-60 with the dragy, 16.5 seconds bone stock, 11 seconds with no other changes other the the turbo. That's gigantic improvment.

sort of a tangent of a tangent, I love LS's and am currently making my living selling LS parts but doing a few turbo 80's now has honestly made me change my view on FZJ80 V8 swaps as far as value if someone is going to pay labor to have a shop like yours or mine do the install, I feel the general attiainability and customer satisfaction is going to be lot higher getting their truck back in a week vs months and at half the cost or less then pro LS swap. The LS will definietly have its place for more skilled DIY'ers who are able to do a nice swap on a budget but I'm going to be pushing turbo installs from here on out as a serious alternative to V8. Additonally being to do it in segments and grow, like starting with the base turbo kit, then adding IC, then fuel system and standalone, etc which can be spread out over a longer period. Again attainable to a way larger population.

TLDR, hopefully this doesn't turn into the Subaru and Honda crowd in a few years

 

[SNLC]

GTFO of here!

Are you claiming under a 12 second 1/4 mile, you even say 11!?

Going to have to see this to believe it!

*Edit: I reread and you are claiming 0-60mph in that time not quarter mile right? We have a track here that anyone can run a 1/4 mile on. We were just discussing running one of our built 1HDFTEs on it, just to see. They are running 325-350hp to the rear wheels and 600+ftlbs as well. 30psi and full boost by 2,000rpms. They are crazy fun even with a 5spd slow to shift truck transmission. Diesel obviously is different but I did build my 1FZFE for boost and it’s well broken in now. I also have a coil pack 1FZFE sitting here ready for whatever. I wasn’t a fan of the Wits Ended kit, So ya, curious.

Cheers

 

[jjdeneen918]

GTFO of here!

Are you claiming under a 12 second 1/4 mile, you even say 11!?

Going to have to see this to believe it!

*Edit: I reread and you are claiming 0-60mph in that time not quarter mile right? We have a track here that anyone can run a 1/4 mile on. We were just discussing running one of our built 1HDFTEs on it, just to see. They are running 325-350hp to the rear wheels and 600+ftlbs as well. 30psi and full boost by 2,000rpms. They are crazy fun even with a 5spd slow to shift truck transmission. Diesel obviously is different but I did build my 1FZFE for boost and it’s well broken in now. I also have a coil pack 1FZFE sitting here ready for whatever. I wasn’t a fan of the Wits Ended kit, So ya, curious.

Cheers

Ok, I’ll bite. What’s the pros & cons of the two kits?
Just talking turbo kits. Not all the extras like intercooler, stand alone, ect that the Wits End Co didn’t provide at the time.
Apples to apples comparison. I do know I heard the turbo mount is beefier on this, so other goodies?
FYI, I have the Wits End kit. I’m happy, just not happy with Joey (owner of Wits End) drama & lack of fulfillment.

 

[cruisermatt]

GTFO of here!

Are you claiming under a 12 second 1/4 mile, you even say 11!?

Going to have to see this to believe it!

*Edit: I reread and you are claiming 0-60mph in that time not quarter mile right? We have a track here that anyone can run a 1/4 mile on. We were just discussing running one of our built 1HDFTEs on it, just to see. They are running 325-350hp to the rear wheels and 600+ftlbs as well. 30psi and full boost by 2,000rpms. They are crazy fun even with a 5spd slow to shift truck transmission. Diesel obviously is different but I did build my 1FZFE for boost and it’s well broken in now. I also have a coil pack 1FZFE sitting here ready for whatever. I wasn’t a fan of the Wits Ended kit, So ya, curious.

Cheers

Correct, 0-60mph. Very few Land Cruiser's out there going sub 15 second 1/4 miles. I'd guess this 80 we did would do like a 22-23 second mile and what you're decribing would probably go like a 20-21, maybe.

One of my technicians handled both the installs of the WE kit and the C&C kits that were installed in my shop, he reported liking the C&C kit quite a bit more. Mostly overall thoroughness, and the installtion guide video was good. Not that the WE kit was bad, just the the C&C kit sort of improved on it a little bit everywhere. I like the included downpipe a lot.

 

[peacesells63]

the C&C kit sort of improved on it a little bit everywhere. I like the included downpipe a lot.

I have owned 3 wits end kits and have looked the C&C kit in detail on their shop truck, I agree. I built a motor for a friends truck that will be getting a C&C kit eventually and I have a new wits end kit on the shelf now, I hope to have them both here at the same time so I can look them over side by side.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Is this OBD1? Is it mine?

I'm wanting to hear that a obd1 turbo kit is available...... @Cruisers and Co

 

[tmxmotorsports]

You'll really like it. one thing I will definietly say is go catless and 3". On @Fosters it made a nice differnece, unfortunaltely I didn't have my Dragy yet to do a comparison run.

On the RC Tuning 80 we just build we ran it 0-60 with the dragy, 16.5 seconds bone stock, 11 seconds with no other changes other the the turbo. That's gigantic improvment.

sort of a tangent of a tangent, I love LS's and am currently making my living selling LS parts but doing a few turbo 80's now has honestly made me change my view on FZJ80 V8 swaps as far as value if someone is going to pay labor to have a shop like yours or mine do the install, I feel the general attiainability and customer satisfaction is going to be lot higher getting their truck back in a week vs months and at half the cost or less then pro LS swap. The LS will definietly have its place for more skilled DIY'ers who are able to do a nice swap on a budget but I'm going to be pushing turbo installs from here on out as a serious alternative to V8. Additonally being to do it in segments and grow, like starting with the base turbo kit, then adding IC, then fuel system and standalone, etc which can be spread out over a longer period. Again attainable to a way larger population.

TLDR, hopefully this doesn't turn into the Subaru and Honda crowd in a few years

I really want to turbo a customer's minty 94fzj80 over ls swapping it believe me I feel your pain.