200 Series Lift using Tundra front IFS and Icon shocks

[techster82]

so mine are technically 34.5 x 12.4 i think. If you use adjustable UCA's to move the axle forward, relocate the kdss bracket and go after the wheel well, it should fit. If you need anymore detail than that, let me know. Im on Rock warriors which I believe offhand are +50 offset, not sure what the Tundras are.

I've got a set of Rock Warriors sitting around that I really contemplated running as all my other cruisers are running 17s and tires are more abundant. With that said I'm stuck on the BBS Pros (I think they are +56 offset) so here we are. I'll be running SPC UCA's, KDSS relocation kit from Trail Tailor and have the ability to trim/cab mount chop etc if needed I reckon.

Did you go with 315/70r17s? The closest to that in an 18" wheel looks to be the 295/70r18s.

 

[bloc]

Random thought.. for those of us that have moved to kings on stock 200-series LCAs.. is there a reason these shocks couldn’t be used with the tundra LCAs? I see mention of the lower shock bolt being different but is that diameter or length? Is the lower spherical joint similar dimensions?

Shock compressed/extended length? What are the spring dimensions on tundra kings? Mine measure 3”x16”.

Seems if they were interchangeable king wouldn’t have two different appearing 2.5” shock setups.

 

[bemerritt]

Random thought.. for those of us that have moved to kings on stock 200-series LCAs.. is there a reason these shocks couldn’t be used with the tundra LCAs? I see mention of the lower shock bolt being different but is that diameter or length? Is the lower spherical joint similar dimensions?

Shock compressed/extended length? What are the spring dimensions on tundra kings? Mine measure 3”x16”.

Seems if they were interchangeable king wouldn’t have two different appearing 2.5” shock setups.

Coils are the same. But beyond that I don’t know.

 

[FJRanger]

Random thought.. for those of us that have moved to kings on stock 200-series LCAs.. is there a reason these shocks couldn’t be used with the tundra LCAs? I see mention of the lower shock bolt being different but is that diameter or length? Is the lower spherical joint similar dimensions?

Shock compressed/extended length? What are the spring dimensions on tundra kings? Mine measure 3”x16”.

Seems if they were interchangeable king wouldn’t have two different appearing 2.5” shock setups.

They very similar; however there are key differences.

From what I've been able to gather by talking to King and looking at the spec sheets the main differences are the valving and there is a, for lack of the official name, travel/compression limiter in the 200 series shock. I suppose if your shocks are due for a rebuild you can have the valving changed to your liking and the limiter removed to match a Tundra's version.

 

[bloc]

They very similar; however there are key differences.

From what I've been able to gather by talking to King and looking at the spec sheets the main differences are the valving and there is a, for lack of the official name, travel/compression limiter in the 200 series shock. I suppose if your shocks are due for a rebuild you can have the valving changed to your liking and the limiter removed to match a Tundra's version.

Great info, thanks

 

[techster82]

So I spent this past weekend tearing everything down on my '09 for the Tundra front suspension and brake swap. There were a few hiccups such as frozen cam bolts, having to get the torch out to help with the lower ball joints, sawzalling the rear shock upper nuts off and a coilover from Fox that happened to be missing a key component! In the end I'm pleased with the result, the stance and the 35s.

Here's the front end put back together with the Tundra components, SPC uppers and Fox Coilovers

First time coming off the lift

So one of the coilovers made it past Fox's quality control (and me) with a missing coil spring retainer ring (this part sits on top of the preload adjuster and keeps the spring in place from the bottom). If your coilover is missing one of these and you go over a bump, it can dislodge the spring and send it past the preload adjuster leaving you at full bump.

I was able to borrow a coilover part from a buddy's shop that works in the meantime and got it back to a safe place while I wait on the missing part from Fox. Fortunately there was no damage to the fender, just a scratched up spring and some scuffs on the shock body/decals. I've parked it for now, will swap in the missing retainer and then look forward to getting it aligned.

I know I've come across threads with alignment specs but can anyone point me to a good printout to take in with me? The shop I'm using is well versed in dealing with adjustable control arms etc and I've used them for my other Cruisers.

 

[TexAZ]

Google, socal chevy lifted tundra alignment. He's got good numbers.
May want to add extended bump stops just to keep everything in Check. Did you do the tundra brakes as well? What did you go with for brake lines?

 

[techster82]

Google, socal chevy lifted tundra alignment. He's got good numbers.
May want to add extended bump stops just to keep everything in Check. Did you do the tundra brakes as well? What did you go with for brake lines?

Thanks, I'll search for his alignment data.

Extended bumpstops are going to be done. I've used the Timbren ones on my 100 series and made spacers for the stock ones on my 80, is there a go to on the 200 series platform?

I did the Tundra brakes as well and utilized soft lines from Stoptech that go between the stock hardline of the 200 and a OEM Tundra hard line that I ordered from Toyota. I found them mentioned in another thread and they worked great. Here's a pic showing them in use as well as my fancy zip tie brackets.

 

[bemerritt]

Looks great! Very interested in some bump stops as well.

 

[turbo8]

Durobump makes ones for the tundra that work on the 200 series.

 

[bemerritt]

thanks for the tip

Aftermarket Front Bump Stops for 2nd and 3rd Gen Tundra (2007 - 2021)

Aftermarket Front Bump Stops for 2nd & 3rd Gen Tundra (2007 - 2021) - 2nd and 3rd Gen Tundra Front Bump Stops (2007 - 2021)

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no idea what i was expecting for price, but it wasnt that haha.

 

[bryson]

Timbren makes some for the 200 also. Definitely not cheaper than the durobumps though...

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[AnyMal]

Timbren makes some for the 200 also. Definitely not cheaper than the durobumps though...

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These prices… geeez

 

[bloc]

Timbren makes some for the 200 also. Definitely not cheaper than the durobumps though...

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Timbren manufactures industry-leading truck suspension and trailer suspension upgrade kits. For Timbren SES, Off-Road Bumpstops, Axle-less Trailer Suspensions, and more, shop now.

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The pictures there bring up something important.. longer bumps often require a different face angle to work correctly and not just nuke themselves immediately.

 

[A10Driver]

Looking to do this swap. Have over 100k on my 17 and the front left cv is making noise. What year tundra parts do I need to source? Any help would be much appreciated

 

[bemerritt]

Looking to do this swap. Have over 100k on my 17 and the front left cv is making noise. What year tundra parts do I need to source? Any help would be much appreciated

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[nwfl4runner]

1.15" extra is great if there is no thread engagement on the stock parts when you start. But, there is ~0.5" of thread engagement, plus roughly 0.25" for each jam nut (with the extension you'll now need 2 jam nuts), so that's a full 1.0" that has to be accounted for. If you were to trim some thread off of the inner tie rod, and some of the outer rod end, the extensions should work.

Just following up on this. Did my swap and not thrilled with the thread engagement. I've ordered a set of Coachbuilder OTRE, and talked to David. Extremely nice guy. He is sending me a set that are have the heim extended out about 5/8", but still has over an inch of thread engagement on the joint. Might end up solving the problem, I'll know more once installed, but he mentioned it'll be about 2 weeks before they ship.

 

[bryson]

Just following up on this. Did my swap and not thrilled with the thread engagement. I've ordered a set of Coachbuilder OTRE, and talked to David. Extremely nice guy. He is sending me a set that are have the heim extended out about 5/8", but still has over an inch of thread engagement on the joint. Might end up solving the problem, I'll know more once installed, but he mentioned it'll be about 2 weeks before they ship.

Those should be a good solution. I really wish I could find a factory application tie rod end that is simply longer than stock, as I'd much rather keep the tie rod end style joint than a heim. I suppose I can't have it all though.

What wheels are you running @nwfl4runner ? Those Coachbuilder ends are pretty specific about minimum offset on wheels and such.

 

[nwfl4runner]

Those should be a good solution. I really wish I could find a factory application tie rod end that is simply longer than stock, as I'd much rather keep the tie rod end style joint than a heim. I suppose I can't have it all though.

What wheels are you running @nwfl4runner ? Those Coachbuilder ends are pretty specific about minimum offset on wheels and such.

Rock Warriors w/1.25" spacers. Yeah, I was hoping to find a stock solution as well, but struck out everywhere I looked.

 

[MTKID]

I was noticing the same limited thread engagement but the alignment shop thought it was ok.

I like those Coachbuilder links better