Wow only 2 rear bumpers in existence for the 200 from TT. I feel like I have a "tickle me Elmo". If you want one bad enough let me know...$$$$
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Wow only 2 rear bumpers in existence for the 200 from TT. I feel like I have a "tickle me Elmo". If you want one bad enough let me know...$$$$
AND only one very sought after front....HA!!!
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I have a status meeting on the 9-13 and it is an item we plan to discuss. If we move forward its still months away.
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Are you no longer doing custom bumpers for the 200? Will you do them by request, or only do them if you have the truck on site?
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Only if I have the truck onsite, currently.
We will be getting a 200 once we move, but it'll be a few months before I can get to that stage. If the front bumper deal goes through that'll be a minimum of 30-40 units. I don't plan on a rear production bumper at this point.
But, I have several guys in my area with 200s of different years that have offered them to me for R&D.
As far as the front bumper goes, it looks like the design will be based on the newer version front ('16- currently 2020). So, they will be year range specific to follow the grill and headlight design. Once I know the price for all the upfront costs, etc.. I will look at the older models as well, but it will require a substantial commitment from that group of guys.
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I've even entertained stamping the fronts. For a couple of reasons.
1) smooth rolling contours to match and follow the 200s body.
2) minimal welding
3) production will be greatly increased and final costs reduced.
4) increased shell strength. Slightly rolled steel is more resilient than flat plate.
I have a source in CA that can stamp up to a 1.25" steel (bumper area size) which is over 10 times thicker than any other bumper stamping press capabilities in the US. 50,000 metric ton 8 post with a 25' square press floor.
They press 3/4" Grade T100 bullet head caps for 15' diameter cryogenic gas vessels.
Lots of options, just need some time and commitments.
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1) smooth rolling contours to match and follow the 200s body.
2) minimal welding
3) production will be greatly increased and final costs reduced.
4) increased shell strength. Slightly rolled steel is more resilient than flat plate.
I have a source in CA that can stamp up to a 1.25" steel (bumper area size) which is over 10 times thicker than any other bumper stamping press capabilities in the US. 50,000 metric ton 8 post with a 25' square press floor.
They press 3/4" Grade T100 bullet head caps for 15' diameter cryogenic gas vessels.
Lots of options, just need some time and commitments.
J
That sounds amazing! Is there any merit to having a 3 piece bumper similar to what they make for the wrangler? Where the sides have less clearance, but can be removed / replaced?
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Here's my take on modular bumpers. I think they are a neat concept but, in the long run they don't last. Every overlap or butt up connection is a breeding ground for rust to start due to the collection of water, road salts, brine, mag chloride and other road detritus. There have been several modular designs that the selling point is what you have in mind. Damage a wing.... unbolt it and slap another on. Problem is that a majority, if not every time, the connecting member is twisted or bent and it doesn't line up correctly, hits body panels and/or just looks like crap. Most throw them away and buy a conventional design from the guys I've talked to.
Pronghorn, MetalCloak, Rugged Ridge etc... I've never seen one that was capable of accepting a replacement component after a wreck or hard hit. The Pronghorn, no matter how tight you got the bolts, the components will still shift when bumped in the rocks. Even a slight shift damages the paint or powder enough to start the rusting phase once its exposed to moisture.
Strength wise, take a modular design and hit something; rock, dumpster, car, tree, etc... Then take that same modular design and make the shell one piece and repeat. I'll put my money on the one piece all day.
In the end its more about the aesthetics a customer wants from what I've seen. Just not my cup of tea.
J
Since you're building another fab empire R ... you should add a pair of good looking and functional LBZ bumpers to your product offerings 
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Since you're building another fab empire R ... you should add a pair of good looking and functional LBZ bumpers to your product offerings
Well yours will be the first and since the new shop will have a plasma table and CNC brake... We'll get those items on the build docket! Of course that'll be during our fly fishing breaks daily on the Sac River.... and
cappuccino time of course. Sliders, bed rack and bumpers for sure, buddy!
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Well yours will be the first and since the new shop will have a plasma table and CNC brake... We'll get those items on the build docket! Of course that'll be during our fly fishing breaks daily on the Sac River.... and
Sliders, bed rack and bumpers for sure, buddy!
AND A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT.......
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You bet! Its just time and money.
Reminds me of a customer I made an extra windshield washer set up for in his Defender. Didn't sound too out of the norm. Except he puts his favorite adult beverage in it. He ran a hose in through the AC vent to cool is slightly.... Push the momentary switch and pump yourself full of spirits...
That's taking "hold my beer and watch this" to a new level.
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We should do a 200 fly fishing expedition.
Interested in a front and rear bumper for our 2014 Land Cruiser (when you get all settled.)
What if you wrapped a rally style (tube) bumper in pretty stamped aluminum "modular" pieces. Keep the core strong and unified and swap out the "scratch/dent" plates as needed.
I like the functionality of rally type bumpers, but don't think the look is right for a 200.
My thoughts were that the bumper can be lower for street driving and the sides could be removed or changed to high clearance for off road kind of like this Jeep Modular XHD Front/Rear Bumpers by Rugged Ridge
For protection. For bumping other cars that are at normal height? I don't know really. Otherwise cars will impact on your wheel in an offset frontal impact which could somehow be worse? Might cause more damage to suspension and or cause your car to drive over the other car resulting in a roll.. That is kind of my line of thinking.
