Builds The Warthog v4.4 (1 Viewer)

[wngrog]

5,420lbs is my guess, but more importantly $2.40 per gallon of non-ethanol. Insane!

25% increase in weight over the advertised curb weight.

 

[matzell]

You are correct on the sliders, as Nolen stated I was building this for more of a strong step than a full out rock slider. This whole build was built as requested by @wngrog simple and effective.

Fair enough.

 

[FJBen]

25% increase in weight over the advertised curb weight.

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7.34mpg YIKERS....

Interesting on the weight, I thought it would be more. Only about 600lbs more than mine. Your's looks like it weighs 2000lbs more than my BJ74 Whats the 0-60 time show on that page? Out of sheer curiosity.

 

[wngrog]

7.34mpg YIKERS....

Interesting on the weight, I thought it would be more. Only about 600lbs more than mine. Your's looks like it weighs 2000lbs more than my BJ74 Whats the 0-60 time show on that page? Out of sheer curiosity.

O-40 was 17 seconds

 

[FJBen]

O-40 was 17 seconds

The better question is, what is that now...because I KNOW you have flogged on it to see that.

 

[wngrog]

The better question is, what is that now...because I KNOW you have flogged on it to see that.

One of the big questions is how much gain do these 4.4 motors giving. There is a guy in Idaho that did a bench dyno on one and it was 215 horsepower. He’s being pretty quiet on the details but I saw the engine on the dyno and the sheet. That’s crazy stuff.

I am planning on running my truck to an dyno soon. These things lose a ton of HP to the tires but I’ll also run my stock 40 though it as well. That way we can see the percent increase.

This truck is strong. Super strong but it’s also heavy. I think the extra HP more than makes up the 25% weight gain.

 

[FJBen]

One of the big questions is how much gain do these 4.4 motors giving. There is a guy in Idaho that did a bench dyno on one and it was 215 horsepower. He’s being pretty quiet on the details but I saw the engine on the dyno and the sheet. That’s crazy stuff.

I am planning on running my truck to an dyno soon. These things lose a ton of HP to the tires but I’ll also run my stock 40 though it as well. That way we can see the percent increase.

This truck is strong. Super strong but it’s also heavy. I think the extra HP more than makes up the 25% weight gain.

Yeah that's kind of what I was alluding to. The 0-60 was more of a joke, but it does give you some intel on how it feels and is running.
I saw mention of that 215hp but no details. That 1FZ territory and probably scoots along quite well.
After I upgraded to the 255 muds, I can definitely feel I lost some power coming from 235 AT's 30" tall.

This 4.4 seems like a great upgrade for not much more than just rebuilding the stock engine.

These are tractors, if you have a race tractor....you still have a tractor.

well...

 

[wngrog]

On the power steering.

As those that have mini truck PS. It’s more of a power assist steering but that’s fine.

We also did a center arm rebuild.

Ujoints on the steering shaft have no slack in them.

All steering rod Ends are new.

After I did the rod ends and lift , I had the alignment done.

The steering does not feel right. Slow speeds it’s good and tight but when cruising at speed it takes a good bit of steering input to turn it. Kind of feels like it floats.

Realign? I’m trying to figure out the next step.

Not sure if the boxes have any adjustment in them. I have the center arm pretty tight.

 

[wngrog]

Hate to cover up my power steering question but I can bring that up elsewhere

The 4Plus swingout I have on my Pig is actually made for a FJ40. I think it’s the only one @lcwizard has sold for a 55.

After I bought one for my 40 and saw how sturdy it is, I had to get one for the Warthog.

The center bolts line up with the sturdy frame OE trailer hitch bolts.

The other mount is designed to go into the thick part of the 40 series rear frame.

On the 55, it’s the bumper. It lands perfectly between two factory bumper supports so you can drill the holes and get to the nuts easily

My first spare on it was a light 33x9.50 BFG. It did not move off road. Nice and tight.

When I added the much heavier Maxxis Razr it was bouncing more than I like.

Add to that, I wanted a place to put my Hi Lift.

In the end , the best thing to do was add some reinforcement. Justin added an L bracket that spreads the load directly to the frame. Now it’s tight tight and the hi lift has a home

Link to tire carrier tech

Bolt-On Tire Carrier via 4Plus Products

A few weeks ago I ordered a replacement tire carrier for my FJ40. The 235/85-16 was so much heavier than the 700-15 I was tearing the body off the truck and I could not stop the rattling After realizing that the 4 bolt receiver hitch was the same on the FJ40 as it was on my Pig. I pulled...

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[JasonH]

How's the return-to-center on the steering? Do you have the printout of your alignment results?

 

[wngrog]

How's the return-to-center on the steering? Do you have the printout of your alignment results?

I never keep that stuff.

Seems fine. I’ll see how it does later today. What am I looking for?

 

[nvrlose54]

On the power steering.

As those that have mini truck PS. It’s more of a power assist steering but that’s fine.

We also did a center arm rebuild.

Ujoints on the steering shaft have no slack in them.

All steering rod Ends are new.

After I did the rod ends and lift , I had the alignment done.

The steering does not feel right. Slow speeds it’s good and tight but when cruising at speed it takes a good bit of steering input to turn it. Kind of feels like it floats.

Realign? I’m trying to figure out the next step.

Not sure if the boxes have any adjustment in them. I have the center arm pretty tight.

Have you considered the tires? What psi are you running?

 

[wngrog]

Have you considered the tires? What psi are you running?

To me it feels different than before with the manual steering. Tires were the same then.

 

[whitey45]

Nolan,

Jack up the front end and steer lock to lock. It should be smooth and relatively easy( engine off) If there is a lot of resistance then something is tight( center arm) steering gear adj) tight rag joint? These mini boxes are not very strong( put one on my Troopy) it felt tight and very different from the manual box. After about 300 miles everything seemed to set in and now feels normal ( maybe just used to it) It is definately an assist compared to a one finger Saginaw! And porky pig will certainly tax the mini box!

 

[wngrog]

fj40 center arm adjustment

Can someone please post the fsm procedure? I have searched multiple threads and all I seem to get is tighten cap snug then back off 1/4 turn or 1/2 turn. Surely the fsm has better instructions. Haynes doesn't cover it and my fsm is for 60 and 70 series heavy duty cruisers. Just installed a...

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Thanks Whitey. I’m playing with the amount of pressure now.

 

[wngrog]

I backed way off the adjustment, about 3/4 of a turn from tight and it’s very smooth now. Returns to center nicely. Does not float as badly.

It still has an obnoxious amount of slack in the steering.

 

[whitey45]

Backing off the adj, will cause slop in the sector shaft, 3/4 is a lot of adjustment, sounds like your steering gear might have some issues? Mismatch of parts during rebuild?

 

[wngrog]

Backing off the adj, will cause slop in the sector shaft, 3/4 is a lot of adjustment, sounds like your steering gear might have some issues? Mismatch of parts during rebuild?

Man. Old junk. A mini box I sent off to a National PS rebuilder. It leaks at the output shaft to boot.

Dammit. I need to find another box before I send this one back to them so I’m not stranded for however long that takes

 

[wngrog]

One of the major side effects of the extra weight on the new Warthog 4.4 is the brakes really are not very good anymore.

I had some crappy rubber lines left as well so I’m going to baseline the brakes with all new stuff.

OEM brake stuff is my favorite. Not cheap but nothing good ever is.

 

[wngrog]

Got the front done. Added a more modern brake master (non ABS 80 series) and put my ARB diff kit on.

Gonna do the rears next week and beg some help to bleed them good. Hope all this makes a difference. Surely it will. My 60 weighs about the same and stops great.