Sad end to someone's FJ80

[landcrshr]

I don't think the top 'flattened' as much as the pictures suggest.

I came across this unfortunate scene last week and I will say that it was most definitely "flattened".

It happened at a fork in the road and looked like it was the result of a "right...no, LEFT!" moment. The tire marks in the road suggested that the truck fish-tailed before it rolled.

For those familiar with Saline valley rd., it was northbound at the fork going to the dunes. The fork appears suddenly after coming down over a rise in the road. The road was just graded and many people were going way too fast. I checked the knuckle studs, they were all intact.

And FWIW, I heard the dog was OK.

 

[CJF]

The key word in your statement is "almost" always walks away.



But not always without injuries, and even CDan said his own son was very lucky .

Lol. Ok. But you're never going to get rid of that "almost" no matter what you do and no matter what you drive.

80's are pretty damn safe, even (especially?) in rollovers.

 

[Qball]

I came across this unfortunate scene last week and I will say that it was most definitely "flattened".

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It happened at a fork in the road and looked like it was the result of a "right...no, LEFT!" moment. The tire marks in the road suggested that the truck fish-tailed before it rolled.

For those familiar with Saline valley rd., it was northbound at the fork going to the dunes. The fork appears suddenly after coming down over a rise in the road. The road was just graded and many people were going way too fast. I checked the knuckle studs, they were all intact.

And FWIW, I heard the dog was OK.

Wow I’m shocked that they were able to walk away from that. Thank goodness.

 

[Rifleman]

Lol. Ok. But you're never going to get rid of that "almost" no matter what you do and no matter what you drive.

80's are pretty damn safe, even (especially?) in rollovers.

That's your opinion, but we'll just have to agree, to disagree, and let it go at that, have a happy and safe new year.

 

[flintknapper]

I came across this unfortunate scene last week and I will say that it was most definitely "flattened".

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The pillars are definitely crushed, but it still looks as if most of the roof structure is only about 1/2 way lower than normal (a bit more on the passenger side). Without benefit of more details (speed, rolled completely over....or just onto its top, etc) it is hard to judge how well the vehicle 'help up' to the forces it experienced.

But looking at the damage and 'assuming' the passengers were wearing seat-belts...it does not surprise me that they walked away from it, (even if not unscathed). Injuries as a result of being 'crushed' inside the vehicle would not appear to have been a significant likelihood. It's the getting 'thrown around' that beats you up and injures internal organs.

Glad to know there were not fatalities and this unfortunate accident can be an abject lesson for us all (even lacking further details).

Best to learn from the mistakes or misfortune of others where we can.

 

[DSRTRDR]

I've driven tens of thousands of miles of dirt/gravel roads in the oz bush over the years in a SWB leaf sprung patrol and fully loaded for weeks of travel.

Tyre pressure is important for both safety and comfort on corrugated roads. Soft sandy/muddy patches can pull the vehicle in directions you don't want to be heading, but trying to correct for that too quickly and you'll be heading into an even worse scenario.

Judging road condition - you must maintain constant vigil of the road surface and when in any doubt slow down. Braking on dirt takes considerable time and can easily put you into a skid. On the 80 I would definitely defeat ABS asap when on dirt - assuming experience in braking on low traction surfaces.

The 80's AWD and general smoothness can cause your speed to creep up well above what road conditions safely allow. Driving dirt roads at speed at night (or into the rising/setting sun) will push you into potentially disastrous territory.

Hindsight is a wonderful teacher - if you survive to learn from it. Oftentimes you will look at an accident/incident and wonder how it could possibly have occurred. Usually it is several bits of bad luck and/or bad choices that align to cause the STHF.

cheers,
george.

X2 on disabling the ABS on dirt

 

[CJF]

have a happy and safe new year.

To you as well.

7.5 hours to go here in PST zone. <--- Will not be doing any of that tonight.

 

[shocktower]

Puma seems to be one of the more popular 12v pumps. There are a couple others Im drawing a blank on brand. M.....something?. Can go the York route OBA. Im still lazy and just carry a 15lb CO2 tank.

Yes OBA and I heard in the streets of Los Angeles there are some safety plugs really cheap made by @NLXTACY

 

[cme4lyt]

Talking of airing down, I just have a small compressor that takes forever to refill the tires, what is everyone here using as a portable?

I have a ViAir 400P that has been way dependable and pretty quick. Not sure if it’s quicker that any of the others but is quick enough for me.

I added an Anderson connector on the back bumper and one on the front near the top of the radiator core support and that’s where I plug into now; cig lighter plug thingy is gone !

 

[Amacfly]

Very happy to report that everyone, including the dog, made it out ok, found this in the original forum where I discovered the news.


The dog also returned at some point during or after the recovery so all three occupants - two humans and one canine - have survived unscathed miraculously. From another forum apparently girlfriend was driving, boyfriend asleep in passenger seat. Slight bend in the road there along with a bit of a hump in the road combined with top heavy loading and excess speed was all it took to roll it. No apparent mechanical failure.

 

[LS1FJ40]

Very happy to report that everyone, including the dog, made it out ok, found this in the original forum where I discovered the news.


The dog also returned at some point during or after the recovery so all three occupants - two humans and one canine - have survived unscathed miraculously. From another forum apparently girlfriend was driving, boyfriend asleep in passenger seat. Slight bend in the road there along with a bit of a hump in the road combined with top heavy loading and excess speed was all it took to roll it. No apparent mechanical failure.

SUPER DOGGO!!

 

[CJF]

original forum where I discovered the news.

Top secret, I guess.

 

[landcrshr]

Top secret, I guess.

South Pass

 

[CJF]

South Pass

Thanks, but even there the quote is from someone saying they heard it on a different forum.

I just H8 not hearing it from the source.

 

[Heckraiser]

This thread brings back some scary, but probably good to keep fresh memories. When I rolled my 4runner, it was a similar A/B-pillar collapse, but mostly focused on the passenger side. I thank my lucky stars that my two good buddies were unharmed and that my 6'4" friend was in the back seat. Suburban rolled in the same spot not 15 minutes before us and their dog was ejected through a window, but survived.

I'd like to think I do a better job of matching my speed to conditions now, but the most dangerous situation is unseen changes in the road condition, so i should really do a better job of just slowing down in general

 

[CJF]

South Pass

Oh wait: You were there??

 

[ZackR]

Glad they made it out ok. Two days ago some lady rolled her VW Toureag right by my house and wiped out a few small trees and killed her dog. I heard she survived but was DUI at the time and was going way too fast into the corner.

I've had a few scary moments where deep gravel grabbed the front wheel and pulled the cruiser harder than I expected, or where I carried too much speed around a corner and the washboard bounced me around enough to lose traction in the rear tires. It can happen quickly and I'm glad we are all able to get a refresher lesson.

 

[landcrshr]

Oh wait: You were there??

Yes, the day after it happened.

 

[pawnthatdude]

Man I was just there in November. At the time it was endless washboarding. Sounds like it's super smooth right now. On the same road, I got a picture of this car. Do any of you locals know the story behind it?

 

[landcrshr]

Do any of you locals know the story behind it?

I heard he was driving along and his dash caught fire. He had an extinguisher but it wasn't enough.
Probably a mouse chewed his wiring while out camping.