Sad end to someone's FJ80

[Qball]

My guess would be fairly high rate of speed, hit a soft patch and over corrected then tires caught too much traction when side ways.

It also looks like he had 100lbs of spare, 3 cans of liquid and rack, that’s over 250lbs in top which makes tipping over quite easy.

Also curious if he ever aired down, I find shocking amount of people on dirt don’t and don’t want to air down. Street pressure and loose dirt is a combo for mishaps.

Glad all people involved walked away. RIP Fido.

 

[Amacfly]

Talking of airing down, I just have a small compressor that takes forever to refill the tires, what is everyone here using as a portable?

 

[retrofive]

Talking of airing down, I just have a small compressor that takes forever to refill the tires, what is everyone here using as a portable?

Puma seems to be one of the more popular 12v pumps. There are a couple others Im drawing a blank on brand. M.....something?. Can go the York route OBA. Im still lazy and just carry a 15lb CO2 tank.

 

[Azca]

I think Q Ball has it right. The graded roads like that have very soft sand/dirt on the berms each side. If you get into one at speed, it will suck you in like quicksand. If you don't know how to deal with it, you will be sideways in the blink of an eye and then, it just a matter of time before you are rolling down the road.... the wrong way.

 

[Qball]

Talking of airing down, I just have a small compressor that takes forever to refill the tires, what is everyone here using as a portable?

Arb twin compressor here, a bit expensive but air up 35s around or under 2 minutes each.

Also check out smittybuilt 5cfpm compressor, “cheap”, portable and very fast. It can air up 35s around 2 minutes from 15-35psi, runs surprisingly cool, highly recommend it. I aired up 2 sets of 35s and 1 set of 37 in 100 degree heat without it quting, its so fast I over filled multiple times.

 

[LS1FJ40]

The best solution to preventing a rollover is a 3FE. It prevents you from going fast enough.

 

[NLXTACY]

The best solution to preventing a rollover is a 3FE. It prevents you from getting laid.

FIFY

 

[retrofive]

FIFY

Your blanket and cat disagree from what I heard.

 

[CJF]

A nice, flat, well-graded dirt road is way more dangerous than a bumpy, curvy, washed out one.

With the second, you need to drive slow enough just for comfort's sake that you're pretty safe; with the first it's incredibly easy to drive at a speed that feels perfectly safe, yet as soon as you make the slightest maneuver, you're instantly drifting or fishtailing. At that point it takes a lot of experience, skill, and a bit of luck to not end up like he did.

 

[Technician1985]

Yes pretty much. I've seen dozens of pictures of rolled 80s. Ever time the pillars look like they were made from cardboard. And every time I see one I say to myself, "I need a cage."

If one didn't want the rear seats it wouldn't be that hard to put a roll hoop behind the front seats with kickers going into the back. You could also mount seatbelts to it if you have aftermarket seats. Otherwise it kinda looks like a full cage would be necessary. I've had a lot of people tell me that a full cage on a street car is a bad idea though.

 

[CJF]

You know, almost every time i see a roll over photo of an 80 series truck, the A, and B pillars are always crushed, sometimes the C pillars too. I've got to say, seeing those pillars crushed all the time doesn't instill a lot of confidence.

OTOH, seems like the folks inside almost always walk away, even when the cruiser does look like that.

 

[Cruiserdrew]

That road is a washboard extravaganza and many people speed to float the washboard and ease the pounding a bit. But there are enough sweeping curves and unexpected washouts to really upset the handling no matter how careful you are. It doesn't take much side drift to flip a top heavy 80. It looks like that's what happened.

I'm just glad the driver and passenger are OK. I'd like to know the full story though, and if the driver is on ih8mud.

 

[cruiserdan]

I want to say that was your son?

Was that a simple flop, or was there more speed / elevation involved?
--That is a awefully flat bunch of -pillars for a single flop (pure speculation here).

Yes, my son's truck. Freeway roll, 2 1/2 times. The truck stopped on the roof. He got out of it with a concussion, a black eye and a bruised shoulder. He was very lucky.

 

[CJF]

Yes, my son's truck. Freeway roll, 2 1/2 times. The truck stopped on the roof. He got out of it with a concussion, a black eye and a bruised shoulder. He was very lucky.

...that he was in an 80.

 

[ThomasMore66]

Holy s***! I just saw this. I’d like to think that I’ve calmed down from my youthful driving, especially in the 80.

 

[george_tlc]

I've driven tens of thousands of miles of dirt/gravel roads in the oz bush over the years in a SWB leaf sprung patrol and fully loaded for weeks of travel.

Tyre pressure is important for both safety and comfort on corrugated roads. Soft sandy/muddy patches can pull the vehicle in directions you don't want to be heading, but trying to correct for that too quickly and you'll be heading into an even worse scenario.

Judging road condition - you must maintain constant vigil of the road surface and when in any doubt slow down. Braking on dirt takes considerable time and can easily put you into a skid. On the 80 I would definitely defeat ABS asap when on dirt - assuming experience in braking on low traction surfaces.

The 80's AWD and general smoothness can cause your speed to creep up well above what road conditions safely allow. Driving dirt roads at speed at night (or into the rising/setting sun) will push you into potentially disastrous territory.

Hindsight is a wonderful teacher - if you survive to learn from it. Oftentimes you will look at an accident/incident and wonder how it could possibly have occurred. Usually it is several bits of bad luck and/or bad choices that align to cause the STHF.

cheers,
george.

 

[malteserunner]

Talking of airing down, I just have a small compressor that takes forever to refill the tires, what is everyone here using as a portable?

15lb CO².

FIFY

Hey! I get laid.

 

[Rifleman]

A bit to much weight on top 37" tires

Yep, people always seem to forget about weight and balance, and center of gravity, the truck came from the factory with 32 inch tall tires. Change them to 37's, add some weight to the roof, and you've changed the weight and balance and center of gravity significantly. Another one people seen to get wrong is the loading of their trailers. They load them wrong, then they wonder why their trailer fishtails.

 

[nukegoat]

I start on my cage tomorrow. 2" .120 wall is really sucky to bend with a manual bender fwiw

 

[Rifleman]

OTOH, seems like the folks inside almost always walk away, even when the cruiser does look like that.

The key word in your statement is "almost" always walks away.

Yes, my son's truck. Freeway roll, 2 1/2 times. The truck stopped on the roof. He got out of it with a concussion, a black eye and a bruised shoulder. He was very lucky.

But not always without injuries, and even CDan said his own son was very lucky .