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We could only wish!So, will this take all the slop out of the steering? The 3-9 sawing back and forth?
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We could only wish!So, will this take all the slop out of the steering? The 3-9 sawing back and forth?
How does this improve the steering? Is the 3-9 sawing back and forth mitigated. My steering has alot of slop even with a HD big dog adjustable steering damper.![]()
This has been in the works for what seems to be way too long ......
We've built a few prototypes and they've been up and running for a while. Came up with is final design after collaborating with another fellow mudder Brad and then modifying that design slightly a couple of times we've finally come up with a kit we're happy with!!!!
The factory 2F ps bracket is retained and slightly modified to work as a cradle for the sag pump.
The kit costs $129 and consists of:
Adapter bracket, spacer and hardware
Pulley
Belt
SAE fitting for HP PS hose
And you will need the proper sag ps pump and cap. We've successfully used Autozone pump #7023 from Duralast. And you'll need the cap part # 82581 from Help products.
We can also supply the already modified OEM bracket for $50 but we need your bracket in exchange. If you want to to buy the bracket outright then it's $85. We have some in stock; once we modify them they're bead-blasted and then painted so they're ready to be installed.
Shipping for the kit runs $16 with or without the modified OEM bracket.
We also offer replacement high pressure hose along with a section of low pressure hose for $79.
Take your time when you bleed the system!
Easiest way:
If you let the engine run too long, the pump will cavitate and the fluid will foam up and possibly overflow. Then you’ll need to wait for all the air bubbles to disperse before adding more fluid.
- Put front axle on jack stands; to take the load off the PS system.
- Fill ps pump almost to the top.
- Start engine, run for 3-5 seconds. Shut it off.
- Fill pump.
- Repeat steps 3 and 4 until fluid level stays constant.
- Start engine and SLOWLY turn wheel for 3-5 seconds. Shut off.
- Fill pump.
- Repeat 6 and 7
- Once fluid level stays even and you can turn the wheel lock to lock you’re done.
Be patient, take your time.
For better install pics, see page 6 and 7 in this thread.
Georg @ Valley Hybrids & Cruiser Brothers
shop 209-475-8808
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I think Georg sells an adapter fitting that connects from pump to OEM hose.Hi All, I’ve been reading about this conversion for a year and finally ordered the kit, a gasket kit for the steering box and went into autozone to pick up the pump last week. I’m planning to do the job over Labor Day weekend. I am not finding the duralast pump anywhere so I bought the endurance 7023. I am somewhat new to working on my ‘84 60 and I felt pretty confident about getting this job done on my own. After reading about issues some have had with this pump I’m worried that I’m just going to be confounded when I get in there. The metric fitting isn’t going to work with this pump?? Maybe?? The flare will need to be cut off and remade?? Maybe. I feel like I’m starting back at square one trying to be prepared to do this job. I’m in CA but the rig is in AZ so I’m going there next weekend. I’ve also read about the Volvo pump some have used that will have the metric threads… is it possible for anyone here to weigh in with ideas for my best chance at success? Buy the Volvo pump and return this one? Add an o-ring at the flare and it will be fine? That kind of thing. I will have a friend to help me who is knowledgeable with this stuff (I think) but I’ve never seen his work or worked with him like this. I had dreams of being able to do a test run with this new pump installed but now having nightmares that I might just have to leave my rig in pieces in a barn while I have to go home a state away. In addition, I bought the printed piece that will allow me to add the toyoda cap to the new pump’s cap and wonder if it will work with the Volvo cap. Thanks in advance for any and all good advice.
Ha. Bummer.We could only wish!
I’ve ordered the modified high pressure hose along with the kit so maybe I’m in good shape. It’s likely that the theoretical approach isn’t serving me well and it will make more sense when I’ve got it right in front of me. ThanksI think Georg sells an adapter fitting that connects from pump to OEM hose.
Hi sag folks! Anyone tried this on a 2H or 12HT engine? Or a 2LT engine? I have several drips in my yard from these different engines, and thinking about a conversion. Not rebuilding three pumps, all are high mileage so I'm thinking shafts are done.
Cool! For a ram or to increase pressure on the stock box?I put a PSC on Tencha ..
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Thanks for this. I had this in my back pocket if I struggled with that HP hose but it went in a treat! I was worried about the wrong things seems like.hit the easy button
this converts Saginaw pump high pressure out to AN
converts your box in and out to AN
then make your own AN hoses
you will need a stock toyota return or use an AN to bubble etc for the return.
The belt supplied in the kit is Autozone Duralast 17620Checking in on this thread/kit after many happy miles.
The accessories belt just gave out and looking for a replacement. (Pump and Alt pulleys still spin freely.) I see the 17620 belt number, anyone have a brand recommendation? O'Reilly's told me it was a special order item, but I find that hard to believe...
Its just an alternative to the stock pump if you need to do a replacement. I believe the saginaw flows a little more fluid and that will help make steering a little easier if you are running bigger tires. But this mod does nothing to the rest of the mechanicals. Steering wheel slop is going to due to either your steering box, TRE's, or maybe knuckles or even alignment and or wheel/tire choice if you have weird things going on.How does this improve the steering? Is the 3-9 sawing back and forth mitigated. My steering has alot of slop even with a HD big dog adjustable steering damper.
I can look into a shorter belt for you on Monday when I’m back at work.Is there a slightly shorter belt that works? The belt from the kit I received is a little long for my application, I am putting in an alternator from an 80 series at the same time.
The kit worked wonderfully however.
Thanks for the help. It isn't tight with either the pulley the alternator came with, or the pulley on my original alternator. I just have very little adjustment room to work with due to the fit of the new alternator.I can look into a shorter belt for you on Monday when I’m back at work.
Could you post a couple of pictures of your set up? I assume you’re running the pulley for the 2F alternator?
Happy to help.
Georg @ Valley Hybrids, Cruiser Brothers & Long Range America
Did you get a chance to look for a belt?I can look into a shorter belt for you on Monday when I’m back at work.
Could you post a couple of pictures of your set up? I assume you’re running the pulley for the 2F alternator?
Happy to help.
Georg @ Valley Hybrids, Cruiser Brothers & Long Range America
Sorry about thread spam, for those who also have this length issue the last 3 duralast part numbers represent length, so I bought a few smaller belts and 17610 worked well. 17615 also works but I didn't get as much adjustment as I was comfortable with.Thanks for the help. It isn't tight with either the pulley the alternator came with, or the pulley on my original alternator. I just have very little adjustment room to work with due to the fit of the new alternator.
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