Evans Waterless coolant (1 Viewer)

[Kaninja]

EVANS is just straight 100% glycol. Some are 100% propylene glycol, and others are a mix of propylene glycol and ethylene glycol.

No magic sauce at all. I would love to see cylinder head temps with Evans vs 70/30 water/prestone.

s*** is expensive for zero gain.

 

[SmokingRocks]

EVANS is just straight 100% glycol. Some are 100% propylene glycol, and others are a mix of propylene glycol and ethylene glycol.

No magic sauce at all. I would love to see cylinder head temps with Evans vs 70/30 water/prestone.

s*** is expensive for zero gain.

Look up brother! got your cyl head temps in the report

"Engines run 115*-140* hotter at the cylinder head when using Evans"

 

[Dindu Nuffin]

SmokingRocks,

Thank you for posting that. I will be changing out my Evans for the OEM- spec'd OAT coolant this weekend. That was certainly an eye opener.

 

[Kaninja]

Look up brother! got your cyl head temps in the report

"Engines run 115*-140* hotter at the cylinder head when using Evans"

Missed that. Well....there it is.

 

[SmokingRocks]

SmokingRocks,

Thank you for posting that. I will be changing out my Evans for the OEM- spec'd OAT coolant this weekend. That was certainly an eye opener.

no problem, I hope I didnt piss anyone off just trying to share my knowledge of thermal dynamics and understanding of our engine design requirements.

 

[Dindu Nuffin]

Oh I'm pissed, but not at you... I'm pissed I got suckered in to spending what I spent on snake oil. Oh well. Switching back will be a hell of a lot cheaper than a rebuild/new engine.

And you're correct about the oil; that was a bad analogy.

 

[SmokingRocks]

make sure you use distilled water. PM me if you have any questions

 

[Kaninja]

Oh I'm pissed, but not at you... I'm pissed I got suckered in to spending what I spent on snake oil. Oh well. Switching back will be a hell of a lot cheaper than a rebuild/new engine.

And you're correct about the oil; that was a bad analogy.

Hey man, marketing works.....which is why the marketing industry is still effective in 2018. In the 90's I spent big bucks on fancy expensive spark plug wires that said I would get better fuel economy, more hp, better throttle response, yada yada yada. None of that happened, but like Fox Mulder.....I wanted to believe.

 

[SmokingRocks]

I'm just glad @Dindu Nuffin saw the light..... I feel accomplished, saving one 1fz-fe at a time!

 

[-Spike-]

@SmokingRocks Well, in all fairness that's a competing product's testimonial. It would have been nice if it were an independent lab. But it does validate what I suspected, so I'll go with it.

 

[SmokingRocks]

I noticed that, but after reading the report detailing the ASTM testing they conducted I felt they remained factual and unbiased in their findings.

 

[Qball]

Aaawwww man! I now have one less snake oil to waste my money on!

Speaking of sneak oil, has anyone tried liquidmoly’s ceratec oil additive? @SmokingRocks? I tried it in the LX and think I noticed a little bit of difference.....could be the placebo affect.

Cera Tec

 

[SmokingRocks]

Never heard of it. But I do like liquidmoly’s products.

There are coolant additives that actually work, like surfactants (no-rosion, water wetter etc.) Because they science.

I’d be interested in learning more about what that oil additive does, my research has typically pointed back to th fact that most additives do more harm to cats . Which outweighs marginal wear reduction.

 

[hammerheadfistpunch]

So you are telling me to double up on the head gaskets. Got it.

...seems legit.

 

[Qball]

Never heard of it. But I do like liquidmoly’s products.

There are coolant additives that actually work, like surfactants (no-rosion, water wetter etc.) Because they science.

I’d be interested in learning more about what that oil additive does, my research has typically pointed back to th fact that most additives do more harm to cats . Which outweighs marginal wear reduction.

Liquidmoly makes great stuff that’s for sure that’s why I tried it. I do know they oil leak additaive does work! I haven’t had oil drips for weeks now. Ceratec seems to work, slightly better mpg and engine brake seems less effective......hard to quantify/measure or verify in a scientific way.

Sounds like this topic could warrant a different thread.

 

[Red Merle]

...seems legit.

Hey, if one is good, two has to be betterer, right?

 

[CJF]

I will be changing out my Evans for the OEM- spec'd OAT coolant this weekend.

Why OAT?

 

[CJF]

Look up brother! got your cyl head temps in the report

"Engines run 115*-140* hotter at the cylinder head when using Evans"

Did you happen to find the viscosity of Evans stated anywhere? Curious whether that also matches glycol.

And as for the water pump section of your data: I do know of one 3FE owner (overhanger in the 60s section) who tried to go Evans. He blew out his existing water pump and then two others before throwing in the towel.

 

[Roostre]

SmokingRocks,

Thank you for posting that. I will be changing out my Evans for the OEM- spec'd OAT coolant this weekend. That was certainly an eye opener.

Can I have what you drain out?

That paper is a hack job. I don't have time to sword fight on the interwebs. I'll just say this; water and glycol are fine and what papa toyo called for. No one is making you buy anything else.

My experience has been very positive. I've had it in my '12 Cummins since it was 6 months old. Pull 16k regularly no issues.

The place it has really shined for me is in my dirtbikes. Years of desert racing... watching bikes puking up coolants and spew steam as I motored by. Yes, my bike ran hotter with Evans, but it never puked and it never failed. Each season I put 160-200 hours on the bike between races and practice rides. The piston and cylinder were always in great shape at teardown (rebuilt every winter).

The Evans will run a few degrees higher, but because the boiling point is 375F it allows you to run the higher temperatures with no risk to your motor.

Smokin - not sure what drives your intense hatred here. It's a product that is offered for a specific audience and obviously you aren't it. The theory behind it is solid. I have personal experience with it. Have you ever tried it in anything??

 

[CJF]

The theory behind it is solid.

You keep saying that. But then your only evidence is:

I have personal experience with it.

Which is merely anecdotal. Where's the science?