It's a start!
And all good projects begin with a "start" of some sort. Haha.
Jeez, no title and a friggin AC switch.
Off to a good one!!
Delancy's NEW 76 PIGGY ???
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And all good projects begin with a "start" of some sort. Haha.
Jeez, no title and a friggin AC switch.
Off to a good one!!
Delancy,
Just read your edit and that's just like mine, must be an early one.
Might be a good canidate for the 72. Really don't know what I'm going to do with it. Not going anywhere soon.
Just read your edit and that's just like mine, must be an early one.
Might be a good canidate for the 72. Really don't know what I'm going to do with it. Not going anywhere soon.
Chris - I've got one very similar to Ron's with all the associated under hood components that the PO (Tom the great) took off my 4/72. I don't plan on ever using it again, so if it's something that might help you, let me know and It's yours for the cost of shipping. I don't have pictures of the (fairly substantial) box, but if you'd like some photographic evidence, I can make that happen tomorrow. Let me know.
-Scott
-Scott
Thanks Scott and Ron, but at this point, this project is on hold, much to my dismay.
I still do not have a transferable title and without going into every documented detail in this thread, I'm asking for advice considering this is a close knit community, on how to continue.
Will preface with the old adage that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I do not sense malice, but the importance of a judgement error in my growing frustration, is waning.
I did cover my bases initially and this was sprung on me, fully admitted to by seller.
The last communication I had with seller was 8/24.
Have emailed daily with no reply.
I know the basis for legal wrangling, one which I will exhaust all other efforts before pursuing, since my goal is merely to drive the Pig I paid for and commence on the planned mechanical restorations.
Goal isn't to inflict duress on anyone, but I'm the one that's unfairly and unethically being left with the short end of the stick, regardless the intent.
Guess the question is, at what point is a decision to be made to force the hand of the seller, legally speaking?
Is there a suggested amount of time to allow this to continue?
At this point, short of producing a duplicate, valid title that I can transfer, the only reassurance I feel is in line with the events, one I personally would've suggested if the shoe were on the other foot, is to put the purchase price plus shipping into an escrow account until resolved.
I'm not holding my breath on that happening.
Guess I'm throwing it out here because I'm extremely frustrated with the turn of events and frustrated that this is stalled due to someone else's egregious error that has my money, plus the shipping costs on top of that.
I still do not have a transferable title and without going into every documented detail in this thread, I'm asking for advice considering this is a close knit community, on how to continue.
Will preface with the old adage that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I do not sense malice, but the importance of a judgement error in my growing frustration, is waning.
I did cover my bases initially and this was sprung on me, fully admitted to by seller.
The last communication I had with seller was 8/24.
Have emailed daily with no reply.
I know the basis for legal wrangling, one which I will exhaust all other efforts before pursuing, since my goal is merely to drive the Pig I paid for and commence on the planned mechanical restorations.
Goal isn't to inflict duress on anyone, but I'm the one that's unfairly and unethically being left with the short end of the stick, regardless the intent.
Guess the question is, at what point is a decision to be made to force the hand of the seller, legally speaking?
Is there a suggested amount of time to allow this to continue?
At this point, short of producing a duplicate, valid title that I can transfer, the only reassurance I feel is in line with the events, one I personally would've suggested if the shoe were on the other foot, is to put the purchase price plus shipping into an escrow account until resolved.
I'm not holding my breath on that happening.
Guess I'm throwing it out here because I'm extremely frustrated with the turn of events and frustrated that this is stalled due to someone else's egregious error that has my money, plus the shipping costs on top of that.
What did you do with the front buckets that came with this rig?
They're still installed, as is everything else that came with it.
At this point, not touching beyond a daily start and warm up cycle.
I just read your last post. I am pm you.
PabloCruise
SILVER Star
I think I would switch from email to phone call with the simple message that this needs to be resolved, ASAP.
Polite, but firm...
Polite, but firm...
I only profess one attribute, which I'm dang good at, that those two adjective combined can be used to describe.
tucker74
Moderator
Idea 
I know in Texas you can apply for a bonded title, if nobody contests it in 3 years they issue you a clear title. Since there is murkiness around this, why not go this route? Since you have the quasi-title you should be ok no?
Tucker
I know in Texas you can apply for a bonded title, if nobody contests it in 3 years they issue you a clear title. Since there is murkiness around this, why not go this route? Since you have the quasi-title you should be ok no?Tucker
Idea
Tucker
Idea
Tucker
You can do bonded titles in OK, but like you say, it's merely an insurance policy for a three year period, allowing registration only, but the murkiness surrounding this deal negates the possibility.
Clear title issuance isn't until the end of the three year period, if uncontested, and still requires the current titleholder being served.
Sounds OK, right?
Remember, the titleholder and signer is the deceased father of seller, therefore I'd be bonding a title and investing money into a vehicle that has, "dead Indian potential", a term used to express possible claims by heirs, known or unknown, on land dealings here in OK.
Pretty much, if one survivor of an heir liquidates what was stipulated as Indian land, yet unpaid heirs existed (now descendants two/three times removed. All of this made possible by a litigious society and attorneys who like easy money) regardless of the fact that you hold title, it's not deemed clear.
Title insurance on land is a serious affair in OK, to say the least, and that's all a bonded title is. Insurance that no heirs will demand retribution during the three year period.
Here's the scenario. Invest cash into it and two years, nine months later an heir contest the original sale, I'm screwed, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, since legally the seller isn't the titleholder.
Other investigated option is a court order for the OK DMV to issue a clear title, in my name, after a factual outlay of all information possible, which may or may not have criminal implications (If the title had been certified mailed, it'd be a different story. ALWAYS USE CERTIFIED MAIL FOR TITLES YOU CAN'T INSPECT.) since a case of fraud, regardless of intent or malice.
Again, the titleholder has to be named on the affidavit and served as the title holder, which isn't a possibility since titleholder and signer is deceased, so more legal wrangling, it's an expensive proposition. Filing fees, legal fees, documentation fees, third party servers, could all easily add up to more than I paid for the vehicle, forcing punitive damages being sought to cover the expenses incurred, again from a seller whose not the titleholder, so next best thing, a mother who has absolutely no involvement.
I do not wish to seek retribution at this point, therefore I don't want to incur expenses that would necessitate, but have a fair timeline in mind to get this taken care of, considering its now been a known issue for almost a month.
At the advice of counsel, the only means to not incur expenses that would demand and a case be made for punitive damages, since estimates exceed the purchase price of vehicle, is for seller to produce a valid duplicate title.
I just want a friggin title I can transfer that was presented as part of the deal, and get on with it.
No hokey crap, no legal wrangling, just a friggin duplicate title.
Of course it all varies state to state and I am not sure what OK law is, but in some states there are title clerks that will do whatever it takes to get you a title. I have seen many cars sell without title and watched title clerks work their magic to "move" the vehicle around to states that don't require titles, register them and then bring them back to the state.
PabloCruise
SILVER Star
So has the seller committed to you that they would provide a duplicate title?
Think the job of the seller, all things considered.
The alternatives to any of the aforementioned don't appeal, due to expense, time, and potential future recourse.....at this point.
Yes.....he's working on it......
Working on getting a new title, can take some time. When I buy Military stuff, it can take a couple months, to get it right.
The Government moves at it's own pace.
The Government moves at it's own pace.
Oh I agree with you it's the seller's responsibility but if you really need it there is always a way.
Oh I agree with you it's the seller's responsibility but if you really need it there is always a way.
If I had less scruples, this would be a non-issue, but I do so it is.
I've been unable to reach Jim C. Via email, regarding status of 72 carb rebuild, or availability of core for this 76.
That said, found a possible core for nominally less money, but unsure if the deciphered date is correct, or if correct, if it'll even work.
Stated to be a 6/31/77.
That said, found a possible core for nominally less money, but unsure if the deciphered date is correct, or if correct, if it'll even work.
Stated to be a 6/31/77.
