35"+ Tire Roll-call... (200's only)

[04UZJ100]

So much better! Hammered the metal just like you said. It’s like I have my truck back. So nice.

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Are you at all concerned with what appears to be awesome crevices for dirt/rocks to accumulate that can facilitate the development of rust in extremely undesirable areas? Pinch welds, rocker panels, lower floor boards etc? That area is now ripe for sand blasting and rot.

 

[linuxgod]

Unless you're planning a body mount chop to fit 37s, you can put the liner back, even with 35s I think. You just need to use a heat gun to warm it up and then push it in various ways until it's curved enough to avoid the tire.

 

[radman]

Unless you're planning a body mount chop to fit 37s, you can put the liner back, even with 35s I think. You just need to use a heat gun to warm it up and then push it in various ways until it's curved enough to avoid the tire.

true statement.

 

[linuxgod]

true statement.

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Why Toyota didn't mold it like this in the first place is beyond me.

 

[LC200JG]

Heres the sway bar end link (s) mounted outside the LCA carrier. Its been punished and driven across america and is still as it should be.
First pic is to show the end link outside the carrier.
second pic is to show the solid spacers filling the void in the carrier.
third pic is showing no bent-ness
Fourth pic is showing the clearance the slee relo bracket and a 3/4” wheel spacers afforded my set up
Fifth pic is showing the clearance between tire and kdss arm at full steering lock.
All that said should paint a very telling testimony.
ignore my rust spots, easy fix. Been spending all my time on my 80 so the 200 has been pigeon holed for a bit.
thanks

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Where did you get the spacers or what did you use for the spacers? Maybe something simple from Home Depot? I don't see a set from slee for example. I was kind of hoping they would come with the relocate kit

 

[linuxgod]

Where did you get the spacers or what did you use for the spacers? Maybe something simple from Home Depot? I don't see a set from slee for example. I was kind of hoping they would come with the relocate kit

I'd look at BoltDepot. Failing them having the right size I'd look at Grainger or Fastenal. Home Depot stuff will likely be low quality zinc coated not intended for outdoor use and will quickly turn into a pile of rust. It's also likely to be low quality steel in my experience though given the strength of the LCA cradle that may be irrelevant. I know it's technically just filling a void but I'd look for something more durable.

Note that you probably need a longer bolt as well.

If you figure out the dimensions of the spacer and bolt, post what you get and where you get them from.

 

[Willy beamin]

Where did you get the spacers or what did you use for the spacers? Maybe something simple from Home Depot? I don't see a set from slee for example. I was kind of hoping they would come with the relocate kit

My alignment shop sourced the spacers for me. Ill ask if they kept it in my file and reply.

 

[Fisher23]

Unless you're planning a body mount chop to fit 37s, you can put the liner back, even with 35s I think. You just need to use a heat gun to warm it up and then push it in various ways until it's curved enough to avoid the tire.

I used the firewood method. Heat it up till it's soft then used the fire wood to hold it in place till it cools off.

 

[DJCloz]

after reading through that entire thread......... I think I have to install the 35/12.5/18 Ko2's I have been sitting on Pictures coming soon!

 

[NateK]

I was curious...

Run 1: 252hp/272ft-lbs
Run 2: 258hp/282ft-lbs
Run 3: 249hp/284ft-lbs

~90°F ambient temp after the runs were completed.

4.30 gears and 285/75R18 AT3Ws
22k mi on the truck, 21k on gears.

Not sure how to post video if anyone even wants to see that.

 

[radman]

22k mi on the truck, 21k on gears.

you got new gears on a brand new truck? (not judging, just curious)

 

[TLC2013]

I was curious...
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Run 1: 252hp/272ft-lbs
Run 2: 258hp/252ft-lbs
Run 3: 249hp/284ft-lbs
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~90°F after the runs were completed.

4.30 gears and 285/75R18 AT3Ws
22k mi on the truck, 21k on gears.

Not sure how to post video if anyone even wants to see that.

Thanks for sharing. Is my math correct that there is a 35% driveteain loss with our 4wd system based on these dyno #s?

 

[NateK]

you got new gears on a brand new truck? (not judging, just curious)

Yes. I did the tundra conversion, lockers, gears, and winch all at 1,099 miles. Tires came about 400 miles later. I actually ordered the majority of the parts before it was delivered.

Thanks for sharing. Is my math correct that there is a 35% driveteain loss with our 4wd system based on these dyno #s?

Happy to oblige!
I was pretty surprised at the 30-35% loss as well, despite the tire combo being almost 90lbs. But that's also why I mentioned the heat...
There was a guy at the same event that ran about 385hp where he'd run about 405hp the week prior.

 

[Fisher23]

you got new gears on a brand new truck? (not judging, just curious)

The new trucks 2016+ come with "thick gears". That is the ring gear is thicker and takes up more room in the differential.

No lockers (that I know of) will fit in the front diff with these thick gears, so you need to get new gears to run a front locker. The rear is ok but it needs to match the front gears.

 

[04UZJ100]

The new trucks 2016+ come with "thick gears". That is the ring gear is thicker and takes up more room in the differential.

No lockers (that I know of) will fit in the front diff with these thick gears, so you need to get new gears to run a front locker. The rear is ok but it needs to match the front gears.

We have proof of this?

 

[Fisher23]

We have proof of this?

yes it is a fact. i have one of these.

 

[04UZJ100]

I’m not debating that. I wanted to see Toyota documentation etc.

 

[lx200inAR]

Yes. I did the tundra conversion, lockers, gears, and winch all at 1,099 miles. Tires came about 400 miles later. I actually ordered the majority of the parts before it was delivered.
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Happy to oblige!
I was pretty surprised at the 30-35% loss as well, despite the tire combo being almost 90lbs. But that's also why I mentioned the heat...
There was a guy at the same event that ran about 385hp where he'd run about 405hp the week prior.
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Was this a 4wd dyno? Looks like there are rollers on front...so i assume so.

 

[Fisher23]

I’m not debating that. I wanted to see Toyota documentation etc.

Toyota does not document that after market lockers do not fit the front 3.31 gears, but the after market locker folks do. Toyota does not make front lockers for the 200 later models. You can call places like ARB tech and discuss it. The problem is the ring gear is thicker so the lockers do not fit unless you get a thinner ring gear, which means = regear. Regear because no one makes thin 3.31 gears. 2016+ gets a 3.307 diff ratio. This is why you will see several 2016+ 200's with only a rear locker.

 

[DJCloz]

The 35's definilty look proper now on my 200. I went from 285/65/18 Ko2 to 35/12.5/18 (34.5 per their website) Ko2 . Definitely need to trim a little in the rear of the front tires and possibly put my bilsteins on the 6th perch instead of 5th. Dissent bumpers also going on this weekend so I will get it all dialed in and report back when finished. Full disclosure, this is the 4th set of tires I try on this car within the last 10 months. First 33/12.5/18 KM3. Looked and fit perfect, but the muds left me desiring a quieter ride. Then 275/70/18 Ko2. Rode great, but too visually skinny for my taste. Then 285/65/18 these were great, however just not big enough. These 35's look perfect. Hopefully MPG doesn't go to the single digits