How does that price line up against the cost of a new short block from Toyota?
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Short block is about $4300’ish. Depending on where you get itHow does that price line up against the cost of a new short block from Toyota?
350k? 385k? The sixFZ is a great engine but at those miles I would do a compete rebuild if a turbo was in my plans.
Short block is about $4300’ish. Depending on where you get it
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Exactly. It shouldn't even be a question....if one is going to turbo or supercharge with those kind of miles. Rebuild or buy a new short-block.
Of course there are. But mileage alone only speaks to the likely 'average/general' wear on the engine. Of more importance is the maintenance history of the vehicle, how it was driven and if it had ever been overheated or had other serious events.is there ANY number of miles, greater than zero, where a turbo could be added? i'm sure there are other threads covering this but i haven't searched and don't want to bring any more back from the dead
i'm as interested as the OP, as i'm sure others are on the fence with adding this $6k kit to our ever aging 1FZ's. i'd wager that all the candidates are +/- 200k, with a "recent" HG job, and a slew of maintenance/baselining efforts on the coolant system, etc.
Wouldn't be the way I would go about it but I understand your perspective. I'm honestly interested to see how it does with those miles and a new FI set-up.All of your comments and insights are helpful to me. Thanks. There is a spectrum of choices and risks. One guy indexes and color codes his cotter pins. The next guy makes his from bailing wire. By way of background, I have a very risk tolerant wife. She drives the same high mileage cruisers I do and has for 30 years with babies and all. She knows to watch the temp and it it creeps she pulls over right then. PHH failure, heater control valve - she's lost both on the road, pulls over, calls me, nothing toasted and she just has a soda while we get it on a trailer. She simply is awesome and loves cars with soul. I'm the same way and our high tolerance for roadside repairs drives many of our decisions. Said differently, we don't need things to be perfect. We do a lot of multi-week trips all over the country with the high mileage ones. We know worst case is something can't be fixed on the road, you tow to town, rent a Uhaul and trailer it home.
My 97 with 350k and the much lower compression has been with us since 50k miles and has the orig HG. It's been cared for and maintained but driven hard and I have asked a lot of it. My other one was a trusted friends, has 385k miles but was driven around our county to give estimates on tree removal. Easy service life and I have the receipts for 3500 mile oil changes. It is quite, runs sooo smoothly, shifts as it should, etc.
Please understand, I get other people and their desire to have everything super tight and every preventative in order at all times.
My current thinking is to swap the 385k mile motor/trans/transfer into my preferred 97, install the turbo (Joey has made it very straight forward), and see how it runs and does. I have no intention to romp on it. If it gives me a solid year of good service (or longer) then great. If I blow the motor, my wife and I are comfortable with that risk. Said differently, we'd rather save the $6k-$10k for a rebuild and see how it goes. If the 385K didn't have the decent compression and smooth power that it does, I don't think I would do it this way.
I welcome other thoughts and critiques. I know very little compared to many of you and I don't intend to be disrespectful by discounting anyones input.
Thanks.
What kind of oil are you running?We Cruiser heads are a civilized breed! Per flintknapper, I may well have an “i told you so” coming my way, or several. Perhaps a nuance I left out was that I do expect that after some miles I will rebuild it. If i get a year or two more out if it id be happy. Also, think of all the extra time and emotional energy i’ll have to do this project if i stop getting angry about all the FB posts on tire size, wheels, kinds of bumpers, etc (insert laugh track).
Why not? What signs are there telling you your rig is not up to a long trip? Mine is at 307k. The wife and I have taken it on multi thousand mile road trips loaded down and then head into remote areas alone. Are you not aware of how many 80’s are still running well at over 400k miles?Seems like your risk calculus is sound as long as you don't plan on any remote off-road trips. I'm ok DDing mine at 230k but I'm not sure I'd trust it crossing the Kalahari
Not much honestly, just some of the Cruiser stuff (upper pan leak, intermittent P0401). Bur I keep it topped up and sounds like a sewing machine when I let it idle. Might do an oil analysis soon to get an idea of bearing wear.Why not? What signs are there telling you your engine is it up to anything. Mine is at 307k. The wife and I have taken it in multi thousand mile road trips loaded down and then head into remote areas alone. Are you not aware of how many 80’s are still running well at over 400k miles?
Not much honestly, just some of the Cruiser stuff (upper pan leak, intermittent P0401). Bur I keep it topped up and sounds like a sewing machine when I let it idle. Might do an oil analysis soon to get an idea of bearing wear.
I just heard the head gasket material tends to start disintegrating around this mileage, although there's no signs of HG issues either for now. PO maintenance is a little sketchy though and the old coolant was in there for a while.
No transmission fluid change since at least 130k either.
First of all check your carfax and also put your vin into the Toyota service portal to see any dealer services. I’m not sure if you’d be able to see any evidence on the head/block interface though.Is there any way to tell or see signs or get an idea externally if a HG has been replaced?
What is your oil consumption like? If you are burning through a quart every 1000 miles then the likelihood is the valve stem oil seals need replacing which would be some indication that the head gasket hasn't been touched in 100-150k miles or more.Is there any way to tell or see signs or get an idea externally if a HG has been replaced?