The Resurection of 'The Beast' (22 Viewers)

[yooper]

Thanks!

BTW - the always has to have a trip planned that she can look forward to. I'm thinking about flying up to the UP in the spring and seeing some parts that we weren't able to make while we lived in E Lansing...would probably fly into Marquette - so I could buy you a then!

sweet. I look forward to it!

 

[Southeast Overland]

I wonder if the would ride to Marquette (and back) in the Pig...

 

[Southeast Overland]

I wonder if the would ride to Marquette (and back) in the Pig...

Nevermind - the said she would not ride that far in the Pig unless Pigs could fly - and then she felt it necessary to make sure I knew that was not a challenge to to make the Pig airborne.

 

[Southeast Overland]

I was able to get my donor 76 manifold apart without stripping anything! There was a thin metal gasket/strip between the two and three (3) regular gaskets!!! Good news is the exhaust manifold does not look cracked and should bolt right up to my original intake manifold. I'll need to get a new (or 3) gasket though.

Also cleaned up the radiator fan shroud to repaint. It should be nice and pretty when I'm done.

 

[Southeast Overland]

New AISIN oil pump arrived last night - it looks sweet!

 

[Trollhole]

Steve they are on sale.

Lifters

 

[FJ40Jim]

Steve they are on sale.

Lifters

I know the ad says quality japanese parts, but be aware that there is an influx of craptastic China lifters coming in. They are 2 piece, with a separate top cap pressed into the lifter body. They can collapse suddenly, causing ginormous valve lash. Real OEM JointFuji are cast one-piece.
FWIW...

 

[OinkOinker]

I was able to get my donor 76 manifold apart without stripping anything! There was a thin metal gasket/strip between the two and three (3) regular gaskets!!! Good news is the exhaust manifold does not look cracked and should bolt right up to my original intake manifold. I'll need to get a new (or 3) gasket though.

Also cleaned up the radiator fan shroud to repaint. It should be nice and pretty when I'm done.

these HG's? or exhaust manifold gaskets (EG)? if EG's why??

 

[Southeast Overland]

I know the ad says quality japanese parts, but be aware that there is an influx of craptastic China lifters coming in. They are 2 piece, with a separate top cap pressed into the lifter body. They can collapse suddenly, causing ginormous valve lash. Real OEM JointFuji are cast one-piece.
FWIW...

Thanks Jim for the info. I was going to order the lifters today but I'll look into the others. IIRC the OEM lifters are $$$$.

these HG's? or exhaust manifold gaskets (EG)? if EG's why??

You lost me a bit - the gaskets were between the intake and exhaust manifolds.

I got a little work done last night. Ends up the donor 76 exhaust manifold won't work. The portion where it mates up to the block is rough. There are a few places where there isn't much metal at all to mate up to the gasket and then the block. I'll take pics this weekend. I tore into the 83 manifold to see if I could use it. In the process I managed to break off a bolt in the exhaust manifold which I will now have to drill out - when the bolt gave way I managed to smash a finger than then nailed myself in the nuts on the follow through. And to make it just perfect a 'client' called right then...

Radiator fan shroud is ready for paint. I'll do that when it is light outside.

Looks like I'm going to be hitting up Marshall about his old headers. MAF headers are IIRC $400 - that is a bit pricey for me.

 

[Southeast Overland]

Got an hour in this evening - it was a busy weekend with other stuff going on.

The manifold situation is straightened out. I'm using the intake off of my original 76 and the exhaust off of the 83. It looks like it matches up well. The PO did strip off one stud on the bottom of the exhaust manifold near the firewall that I have to get out, replace, and make a blockoff plate for.

Alternator is cleaned up and ready to go.

I had cleaned and repainted my 76 air filter housing but now realize that I probably either need to use my 83 or clean and paint my 76 valve cover so everything matches up. I don't see an advantage to using the 83 air filter housing over the 76 so I'll probably stick with the 76 air filter housing, 76 valve cover and 76 carb and everything else pretty much off of the 83.

 

[Southeast Overland]

Got about an hour and a half in last night. I started sorting through all my gaskets for the 2F reassembly. I'll need to pick a few more up from the dealership.

Last broken stud on the manifold is still soaking in PB Blaster. I don't like tapping holes. I have one to do and that is 1 too many.

I started stripping some parts off of my ruined (thanks dealership) head that was originally on the Pig. Without pulling the springs (I don't have the tool I need to do that) I can't strip much more than a few nuts and bolts. Should I worry about pulling springs and such off or just scrap it? It ran strong before I pulled it. I thought that even though the bottomside was peened around the valves it might make a decent (cheap) head for someone to put on a well beaten/rusty trail truck.

Besides that I spent the rest of my time cleaning small parts, bolts, etc. Nothing fancy or exciting but all the little pieces are coming together for the reassembly. I need to call the machine shop and check in on them.

I'm hopefully hosting a reassembly class for my local club in Feb or March. We will all get together and see how a 2F is put back together - and drink a bunch of beer. It should be fun!

 

[Trollhole]

Got about an hour and a half in last night. I started sorting through all my gaskets for the 2F reassembly. I'll need to pick a few more up from the dealership.

Last broken stud on the manifold is still soaking in PB Blaster. I don't like tapping holes. I have one to do and that is 1 too many.

I started stripping some parts off of my ruined (thanks dealership) head that was originally on the Pig. Without pulling the springs (I don't have the tool I need to do that) I can't strip much more than a few nuts and bolts. Should I worry about pulling springs and such off or just scrap it? It ran strong before I pulled it. I thought that even though the bottomside was peened around the valves it might make a decent (cheap) head for someone to put on a well beaten/rusty trail truck.

Besides that I spent the rest of my time cleaning small parts, bolts, etc. Nothing fancy or exciting but all the little pieces are coming together for the reassembly. I need to call the machine shop and check in on them.

I'm hopefully hosting a reassembly class for my local club in Feb or March. We will all get together and see how a 2F is put back together - and drink a bunch of beer. It should be fun!

Steve I'd use the 83 intake manifold. I don't think you can missmatch intakes from early and later 2fs.

Gonna need to stick with the 83 valve cover. It has the bolt holes for the upper oil cooler hose. And as you know you will need to use the 83 air cleaner.

Sorry for the issues. But best to figure them out now than later.

 

[Southeast Overland]

Steve I'd use the 83 intake manifold. I don't think you can missmatch intakes from early and later 2fs.

Argh - no biggie - I just need to get one more broken bolt out.

Gonna need to stick with the 83 valve cover. It has the bolt holes for the upper oil cooler hose. And as you know you will need to use the 83 air cleaner.

OK - Argh x2 - I'll clean up and repaint the 83 valve cover. I was hoping to use the 76 carb as it ran well but I might have to switch over to the 83 now too.

Sorry for the issues. But best to figure them out now than later.

No problem. I want to have everything ready to put back together at one time for the class.

 

[Trollhole]

You can use the 76 carb on the 83.

 

[FJ40Jim]

The 76 & 83 int or exh manifolds can be swapped. They are the same thickness at the bolt holes, they have the same 5 bolt mating pattern.
I suggest using the 76 intake for less smog stuff, and the 83 exhaust because it is the 3-piece (crackproof) type.

Because of changes in height, the following parts all have to match each other:
-carb
-air cleaner
-valve cover
-rocker studs

 

[Trollhole]

The 76 & 83 int or exh manifolds can be swapped. They are the same thickness at the bolt holes, they have the same 5 bolt mating pattern.
I suggest using the 76 intake for less smog stuff, and the 83 exhaust because it is the 3-piece (crackproof) type.

Because of changes in height, the following parts all have to match each other:
-carb
-air cleaner
-valve cover
-rocker studs

I would have never thought about the rocker studs being different.

Learn something new every day.

If he used the intake 83 would the carb sit too low and require spacers? If it was spaced correctly would the 76 linkage mount up to it?

 

[Southeast Overland]

Man - JimC saves me a ton of time again.

That makes it easier on me - now I only have to clean and paint the 76 valve cover.

Thanks!

The 76 & 83 int or exh manifolds can be swapped. They are the same thickness at the bolt holes, they have the same 5 bolt mating pattern.
I suggest using the 76 intake for less smog stuff, and the 83 exhaust because it is the 3-piece (crackproof) type.

Because of changes in height, the following parts all have to match each other:
-carb
-air cleaner
-valve cover
-rocker studs

 

[Southeast Overland]

I cleaned a few more small parts up last night. I started to drill out some of the broken off studs on the 83 exhaust manifold but my drill wouldn't work. Time to spend more $$$.

 

[Trollhole]

Steve you can always come by and use the drill press.

 

[Southeast Overland]

Steve you can always come by and use the drill press.

I might do that - when I use your blast cabinet too!

How are you on tapping holes?

It would be next week after next (24th) before I could swing by.