nukegoat
Should have bought a Jeep
For the record I'm totally fine with the rear of mine after relinking it
The 4WheelUnderground 3 link thread
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For the record I'm totally fine with the rear of mine after relinking it
nukegoat
Should have bought a Jeep
None, the only rubber compliance between you and the road is the 10" or so of compliant sidewall
Yikes. The added spring/compliance of the bushings definitely helps reduce the input loads into the brackets... Seeing how Jose beats his rig I'd be worried about cracking the brackets or frame near the welds...
Jose, I might be critical of the lack of bushings, but damn, this is really awesome! Can't wait to see what it does for capability!
Have you seen those brackets??? lol
Guys have been using solid heims in suspension links for years. They are loud, squeaky and harsh but they work just fine. The problem with joints that have rubber in them like the Johnny Joints is they only use a 9/16" bolt.
Guys have been using solid heims in suspension links for years. They are loud, squeaky and harsh but they work just fine. The problem with joints that have rubber in them like the Johnny Joints is they only use a 9/16" bolt.
richardlillard1
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Didn't you triangulate the rear or some goofy crap?
nukegoat
Should have bought a Jeep
Yeah, something goofy like that.
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Thank you for not being the guy(x1000) who accessorizes the holy FAWK out of an 80 with Bolton junk only to appease the Starbucks line conversation
You're the real McCoy Jose
No offense to the 98% of the mud communityenjoy your coffee...
Ha thank you sir
Just trying to follow in your footsteps! They're 200/350, it's what Brian supplies. I'll see how they handle in the real world since Booger seems to think they're a bit light.
Na, it's purely a while I'm in there upgrade, and also a bit of bling
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If I ate Kawasaki dirt bike fenders and Taco Bell for a week and then pointed my butt up at my truck with the intentions of aiming explosive diarrhea to point something out I could have not done a better job
@Delancy is in the house!
Not that I'm an 'expert' and not to foul Jose' thread, but wtf are you asking in 66.66667 % of those questions?
Dude that made me laugh out loud. My first thought was that he wanted to play a game of tic-tac-toe with all those green lines.
Fifteen minute phone call answered most and some I didn't know I had, so deleted the previous inquisition.....but NOW reserve the right to foul the thread in any other typical manner.
Like:
I bet you don't.
Man, you deleted all that?! I was starting to work on responses, they were good questions. Was gonna wait till I was back on a computer because I hate typing on my phone. So did you get what you needed? Anything share-worthy?
Thanks! And yeah unfortunately it looks like the box will have to come out if you need to remove the pitman arm because the new bracket doesn't leave room for a puller tool in there.
His welds are seriously beautiful. It's almost a shame to paint over them. Calipers are all off now that I've installed the Hellfires.
You're going to pull the box to fully weld that panhard mount, right?
I'm loving how this build went from the ultimate camper to a "how to" for a rock crawlin pig.
Been a big transformation! Who knows what it'll look like in another 2 years. As for the steering box, I wasn't planning on removing it. There's only this short section that comes up around the box. The rest is under the frame and on the inside.
Thanks! Might be worth a quick phone call to Brian. Brackets may be easily modified to fit.
Per Billy: "The arms have a 6" throw at the tie rod holes, and an 8" throw at the drag link holes. Ackerman angle you say? Each arm has 2 holes. The first hole is for the tie rod and it gives you the right amount of ackerman angle for the average wheel base. Need more steering angle and full hydro with the common 8" ram? Use the forward holes that have no ackerman angle for the furthest possible steering in comp based rigs."
So, Billy says the inner holes give proper Ackerman for most rigs. But the inner holes won't work as I learned today. The panhard bracket stick out too far forward to use the inner holes. The problem is Billy no longer supplies the driver's side arm with 2 holes. They come with 1 only. But it's nice to have friends with mini trucks. A buddy is gonna trade me his earlier gen steering arm that still has the 2 holes.
Here's what I mean about the panhard and tierod on the inner holes. No clearance
Good point. Sarcasm, humor and overall tone are not easily conveyed online and it's easy to take offense to what is otherwise good natured ball busting. IMO, Booger is one of the coolest guys here with the skills and knowledge to back it all up.
Saw the thread, nice work! Glad it was useful
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You guys talking about the 2 giant control arms? Those aren't your standard Heim. It's a Flex joint with a rebuildable nylon bearing race. Details: http://www.4wheelunderground.com/Heims--Joints--Bushings-and-Hardware.html
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And today I wrapped up the Hellfires and Aisin manual hubs from the HZJ81s. Since I have the older chromoly Longs with only 1 snapring groove, I had to cut a new groove. I read about the 8mm pipe spacer, but I could not get it to fit no matter what I tried. No big deal. 10 minutes with the dremel and it was done. Cut a second groove 13mm from the top. If you have a trunion bearing race handy, that's exactly 13mm wide so use that as guide to mark your lines. Also installed the new hub studs as my old ones were trashed.
maxamillion2345
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My joints use 5/8 fwiw.
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I have made lot's of friends on a forum, friends that became real life friends. I have traveled with them and gone to see them on the other side of the planet. It is not such a bad thing dude.
My bad, thought you were a vendor, read something about that but guess I read wrong. I wouldn't say pissing people off, rather just acting/looking like a knowitall douche. General politeness and courtesy also goes a long ways, on the forums or otherwise.
That is great, I am all for it. My 80 works pretty good though for what I use it for. Remotest to me means way out in the boonies in Baja, just did that recently in it, stock suspension configuration worked fine. Or way out in BFE Wyoming or Idaho for a weekend of camping. Sometimes I like to go to the dunes in it, stock suspension works good in the dunes, just need lot's of hp. Don't think I will ever take my 80 on a rock trail where I risk smashing it. Not to say I am against better suspension on it though. But for my uses and probably most peoples uses, the stock configuration works fine. I am also fully aware some folks want to do a 3-link and hey by all means go for it. Just don't think that it is a do all and everybody should do it. Some of us simply don't take our trucks where it will be needed. Some, like me, want to be able to find a part in BFE Latin America so for this stock = best. Talking to us like we are idiots and don't know how suspension works and why a 3-link is better doesn't do much for anybody. In particular when yo say crap like we have Starbucks breath. Dude I don't drink that crap and I know what a 3-link is so yes your comments come across as douchery. Thing is if I was considering a 3-link, do I need the flex and if I do is it worth sacrificing road handling or the ability to easily get parts in say Nicaragua. I think you will find that generally a mentor is not a dick because when they are people generally don't listen to them.
And with that I will leave Jose's thread alone and let him show us his build.
Cheers
@jcardona1, I deleted for thread continuity, not anticipating, but not surprised, that it derailed to the degree it did.
I'm in good shape on the previous questions, at this point, but thanks for offering to accommodate.
This is a little concerning....
Are you still running the y link set up?
I'm in good shape on the previous questions, at this point, but thanks for offering to accommodate.
This is a little concerning....
Are you still running the y link set up?
Finnyfam60
Driving miss daisy
Rmp0: doctor diagnoses you with clinical anal retentive disorder and prescribes a chill pill to cure.
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Yeah I'll be keeping the y-link. But it will go under the arms, not on top. It's what Brian recommends and this is exactly how Bobby's is set up
K, I'll stfu. Sarcasm and such is better interpreted and not found hurtful so much on pirate... Maybe I get on better there cause a great number of those people have met me in person and a jerk simply doesn't exist to them.
Straight up, honest to god apology(and I love me a venti frapachino). Especially to you @Rpm&o. I've followed your stuff since you were doing it in a 4door taco.
Remember, however, there are far more posts ridiculing 3 links in this forum than all of my rude/crass
opposition to those theories.
Sometimes it's like were (80 suspension tinkerers)the gay and lesbian community of IH8mud
EDIT: And before anyone gets butt hurt (no pun intended) by that, some of my dearest closed friends/relatives are of a different sexual orientation than myself. So don't load your guns, please
Regardless, your point is taken and respected.
Straight up, honest to god apology(and I love me a venti frapachino). Especially to you @Rpm&o. I've followed your stuff since you were doing it in a 4door taco.
Remember, however, there are far more posts ridiculing 3 links in this forum than all of my rude/crass
opposition to those theories.
Sometimes it's like were (80 suspension tinkerers)the gay and lesbian community of IH8mud
EDIT: And before anyone gets butt hurt (no pun intended) by that, some of my dearest closed friends/relatives are of a different sexual orientation than myself. So don't load your guns, pleaseRegardless, your point is taken and respected.
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If the DS arm doesn't have 2 holes you're stuck because you can't run a steering link from PS outer hole to DS inner hole. But if DS and PS arm both have 2 holes then yeah you could, in theory, use the outer hole on the PS arm. Drag link up top and tie rod underneath. But Brian recommends they go underneath the arms as it may limit uptravel, hence my reason to use a y-link setup.
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Out of the fire and straight into the damn pan.....
Did you not get the memo?
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/booger-is-a-3-link-douchebag.843986/
You know I love you, so don't be a biatch and start boohooing that I called you a dirty name.
I've seen your nuts, so I gots the right!!
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