Retirement Shop

[Waorani]

If you decide you want to DIY you're welcome to borrow this man lift. Not motorized so you have to push around but it sure makes getting up and down easy. 12ft platform height. Installation shouldn't be that hard if you have something suitable to drive the self-drilling/tapping screws. Biggest thing is getting that first sheet square so the rest ends up right. Did insulation come with the package? Seems odd but without it condensation will form and drip on the underside.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

If you decide you want to DIY you're welcome to borrow this man lift. Not motorized so you have to push around but it sure makes getting up and down easy. 12ft platform height. Installation shouldn't be that hard if you have something suitable to drive the self-drilling/tapping screws. Biggest thing is getting that first sheet square so the rest ends up right. Did insulation come with the package? Seems odd but without it condensation will form and drip on the underside.

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Thanks for the offer Ed. I might take you up on that. We rented a motorized manlift for the erection. I could almost drive it by the time we were finished.

I have a screw gun which is the recommended tool for those fasteners. My first thought, FWIW, would be to use my impact driver but apparently that's a bad idea for several reasons.

No insulation. We discussed it but their advice was to forego it in an open building as apparently birds love the stuff. Not sure I see exactly how condensation on the roof will be an issue but I'm not saying it won't. We have several uninsulated but well ventilated / open structures at our place in South Alabama and I haven't noticed it as an issue. Now condensation will certainly occur on the concrete floor depending on conditions at certain times of the year but the thermal capacity of a concrete slab is way higher than relatively thin sheet metal.

 

[Waorani]

I don't understand it either but my old shop not too far from you had a 20x40 lean to off the front and builder installed a plastic backed fiberglass insulation. After several years the plastic deteriorated and it started falling apart (and the birds liked it too) so I eventually pulled it all down. After that, often during the winter it would have condensation heavy enough to drip onto whatever was below. Not terrible but enough to be annoying. If it becomes a problem you could always spray foam it later on.

 

[Ol Yeller]

Very nice! Sheet that yourself! It’s the easiest part. You all did the heavy lifting.

Agree, and I did all the steel siding on my shop, I did have a bucket truck from work to make it easier but was not hard, just measure twice on the cuts.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Agree, and I did all the steel siding on my shop, I did have a bucket truck from work to make it easier but was not hard, just measure twice on the cuts.

PBR Panels are all cut, so even easier. Some of the trim will have to be cut but that's about it other than cutting through the existing shop wall to install a personnel door. The roof panels are 21' 7" long though so they could be a bit unwieldy, at least until I get the first one or two screwed down. They underlap the existing roof panels by 6" so I also have to unscrew and lift those, probably replace the Inside Closure Seals (using double sided sticky tape), etc. so lots of tedious details.

 

[Michael B]

What are your plans for trimming/cutting the sheet metal?

 

[WarDamnEagle]

What are your plans for trimming/cutting the sheet metal?

Skill saw with a ferrous metal blade. Goes through sheet metal fast and smooth. Just need hearing and eye protection obviously. Long pants and long sleeves are also helpful.

Edit: To be clear, I'm not talking about a cut off wheel. Lot's of choices and brands but basically it's just a carbide skill saw blade with a special tooth configuration for ferrous metal. For example:

https://www.amazon.com/Diablo-48-Tooth-Titanium-Non-Stick-Stabilizing/dp/B00008WQ3B/ref=asc_df_B00008WQ3B/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693405538309&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16439626229582726101&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012822&hvtargid=pla-569686725990&psc=1&mcid=3d0caa9aa979360d9803f7626bb37102&gad_source=1

 

[Michael B]

Greg I used the sheet metal shear listed below. It works like a champ. It’s also what the builder used when they were installing the metal on my shop.

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWASHRIR-Impact-Shears-Attachment/dp/B01BSAWORC/ref=asc_df_B01BSAWORC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693308318551&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8827455562219566406&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1012954&hvtargid=pla-421150986239&psc=1&mcid=3500f68e3e2535cd88cf4cc1c6a15940&gad_source=1

 

[Ol Yeller]

basically it's just a carbide skill saw blade

All I used was a dull carbide blade…nothing fancy, but it did take some attention to not tear the siding…

 

[WarDamnEagle]

All I used was a dull carbide blade…nothing fancy, but it did take some attention to not tear the siding…

I have done the same in the past without issues on sheet metal and even 1/4” aluminum but for $30 it seems worthwhile to try a blade designed for the task.

 

[Washingtontaco]

Shop looks nice!

The GF gave me the green light to demo our existing garage and build a shop/garage on our house when we sell our rental house. Looking to build a 25' x 60' single pitch sloped roof with 10' doors.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Shop looks nice!

The GF gave me the green light to demo our existing garage and build a shop/garage on our house when we sell our rental house. Looking to build a 25' x 60' single pitch sloped roof with 10' doors.

Congrats! She sounds like a keeper.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Shop is in the shade until about 10:30 each morning and it’s too hot/humid to work more than an hour or so in full sun. That makes for a short work window but we did make some progress on the roof the last couple of days. 21’ 7” sheets are a bit unwieldy to work with. They only weigh 55 lbs each but the low side eave is ~15’ from grade. Using the tractor to get them as high as possible and then manhandling them the last few feet. Not too bad with 2 people but time consuming. 5 sheets up and 9 more to go.

 

[Ol Yeller]

Shop is in the shade until about 10:30 each morning and it’s too hot/humid to work more than an hour or so in full sun. That makes for a short work window but we did make some progress on the roof the last couple of days. 21’ 7” sheets are a bit unwieldy to work with. They only weigh 55 lbs each but the low side eave is ~15’ from grade. Using the tractor to get them as high as possible and then manhandling them the last few feet. Not too bad with 2 people but time consuming. 5 sheets up and 9 more to go.

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I can relate, Mrs was thrilled to help with mine, but we had cooler weather to work in.

 

[Bob Morazes]

Great job!!
I'm sweatin and my back hurts just sitting here thinking about it.
The best part of the job is when you sink the last screw and enjoy that ice cold beer!!
Bobmo

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Great job!!
I'm sweatin and my back hurts just sitting here thinking about it.
The best part of the job is when you sink the last screw and enjoy that ice cold beer!!
Bobmo

lol Yes, the last screw will be nice. I never intended to put this building up myself but it just turned out that way and frankly, I actually enjoy it to some degree. I have to say though that erecting the structural steel was much more satisfying than the sheeting. It's turning out well though.

 

[Waorani]

Don't know if you're walking on it (or need to) but first time I had someone fix some leaks on my old shop I was surprised to see them step off the ladder and walk all over without regard for support locations. Later I would do the same, again without any issues. I didn't step on the ridges but otherwise that metal is pretty strong once installed.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Don't know if you're walking on it (or need to) but first time I had someone fix some leaks on my old shop I was surprised to see them step off the ladder and walk all over without regard for support locations. Later I would do the same, again without any issues. I didn't step on the ridges but otherwise that metal is pretty strong once installed.

Yes I walk all over it. I make sure there are a few screws in the low side before I do though and I generally try to walk mainly on sheets that are fully screwed. Yes, it's very strong. And, yes, don't walk on the high ridges.

Of course I routinely walked on the existing shop to blow the leaves off so I actually never gave it much though other than to make sure it was secured properly.

 

[greenbeast]

Shop is in the shade until about 10:30 each morning and it’s too hot/humid to work more than an hour or so in full sun. That makes for a short work window but we did make some progress on the roof the last couple of days. 21’ 7” sheets are a bit unwieldy to work with. They only weigh 55 lbs each but the low side eave is ~15’ from grade. Using the tractor to get them as high as possible and then manhandling them the last few feet. Not too bad with 2 people but time consuming. 5 sheets up and 9 more to go.

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Not sure what your temp was Greg but heat index was 105 most of day. Working in shop was sweaty venture today. Couldn’t imagine being on top of a roof.
Looking good!!

 

[WarDamnEagle]

Not sure what your temp was Greg but heat index was 105 most of day. Working in shop was sweaty venture today. Couldn’t imagine being on top of a roof.
Looking good!!

It’s been very hot here as well. Thankfully the enclosed shop is air conditioned.