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JP I have a few loose items sitting around from the other LV body door parts, switches and such let me know if you need anything. Your killing me with the shorts its cloudy and cold here in So Calif I cant get anything done unless its over 70 degrees
 
ClemsonCruiser said:
bondo/filler that I found under what I believe was the factory paitn job......... I have read that these body were hand worked by GIFU but has anyone else found any filler under their factory paint jobs? Check out the pic :confused:
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I have found factory bondo on several wagons that I have owned.
Most was found around the front cowl area where the windshield
frame meets the body.
Once we stripped it all out, you could actually see the factory welds
where the Gifu metal was joined up to the Toyota Cowl.
 
Well this is a long over due update...... didn't want you guys to think this project had already been abandoned :hillbilly: Been out of town alot these past few weeks and swamped at work, but hey that is life right. Good thing is though my schedule looks to be opening up and the plan is to blast the frame, axles, and misc. parts this weekend and then hit them with a nice gloss chassis black, So should have nice purty progress pics for everyone soon :cheers:


In the limited time I had the last 2 weeks we removed all the misc. brackets, brake lines, etc., and the drivetrain. Unfortunately my camera has been MIA so only have a few crappy cell phone pics for now.

More to come soon :beer:
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landcrusher909 said:
JP I have a few loose items sitting around from the other LV body door parts, switches and such let me know if you need anything. Your killing me with the shorts its cloudy and cold here in So Calif I cant get anything done unless its over 70 degrees
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Rob.... I am in need of a few smaller items, I'll shoot you a PM. Thanks!!

owensexport said:
I have found factory bondo on several wagons that I have owned.
Most was found around the front cowl area where the windshield
frame meets the body.
Once we stripped it all out, you could actually see the factory welds
where the Gifu metal was joined up to the Toyota Cowl.
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Cool, I am guessing this filler was a factory job, there was a fair amount of it but, if it wasn't originally I would be surprised. As that would mean some one else had done a frame off at some point like I am doing now, and there isn't really any other indications to support this.

landcrusher909 said:
Dont know what your plans are for the brakes but we just finished alittle upgrade on the 45 if your interested let me know https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/464213-my-single-circuit-brake-upgrade.html
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Rob.... was plannng on staying with the original single circuit. I really want this to be a bone stock restoration if I can help it. My '62 FJ40 that I drove and wheeling in college for years was single circuit and I had no issues. But I do have Gene's accident and LV in the back of my mind. I am hoping with all new wheel cycl. and shoes this won't ever be an issue.
 
Thought I'd post up some of the parts I am looking for that I need to make this ole girl "bone stock"..... If you've got them shoot me a pm and let me know thanks!

need the "W" wiper knob.
LV%20switches.webp


3 hole bracket style rear view mirror
lv mirror.webp

spare tire carrier "wing nut" and retaining plate ( hope Mikesta doesn't mind me stealing his pic.)
MVC-304F.webp


some other misc. things I don't have pics of but need are, gas tank skid plate, period correct ignition switch and key, and some other stuff I can't think of right now.

:cheers:
JP
LV%20switches.webp
lv mirror.webp
MVC-304F.webp
 
PM sent back. Are you going to go back to the column shifter ? If you need any axle parts I have a few ball n calw's laying around.
 
ClemsonCruiser said:
Rob.... I am in need of a few smaller items, I'll shoot you a PM. Thanks!!



Cool, I am guessing this filler was a factory job, there was a fair amount of it but, if it wasn't originally I would be surprised. As that would mean some one else had done a frame off at some point like I am doing now, and there isn't really any other indications to support this.



Rob.... was plannng on staying with the original single circuit. I really want this to be a bone stock restoration if I can help it. My '62 FJ40 that I drove and wheeling in college for years was single circuit and I had no issues. But I do have Gene's accident and LV in the back of my mind. I am hoping with all new wheel cycl. and shoes this won't ever be an issue.
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If you are going to daily drive and not "tow and show" the truck, I would really consider at least a dual circuit brake master.
 
John Smith said:
If you are going to daily drive and not "tow and show" the truck, I would really consider at least a dual circuit brake master.
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I appreciate the input, but I guess I am just having a hard time understanding the "distrust" of the single circuit system. My reasoning being Toyota sold Land Cruisers for a decade or more with this system and people seemed survive some how on them, don't think Toyota would still be around if the case was different. I hope I am not coming off as a smart ass but it seems to me that the chances of a massive failure of the single circuit system is minuscule. I am not by any means arguing that dual circuits aren't superior, rather that I am willing to take the minute risk for the sake of doing a proper restoration. Maybe I am crazy but as I said before I drove my 1962 FJ40 with single circuit drums for several years and 1'000s of miles with no issues at all.

I doubt this LV will ever see anything other than back roads thus I am comfortable with keeping the single circuit system; hope I don't eat my words :doh:
 
I agree, I drove a 65 45 pickup spring over with 36 swampers on the original single circuit with drums for 3 years without an issue. It wasnt even mandated till 67 to have dual circuits. I understand the concern,but a single circuit system in good order works fine,especially if everything is new.I applaud your effort to keep it ALL original,its just not done anymore,and the fact that alot of these cruisers still have steel resovoirs on them still is amazing...They were driven off the showroom floor for decades,why cant it be done now!!!
 
whitey45 said:
....but a single circuit system in good order works fine...They were driven off the showroom floor for decades,why cant it be done now!!!
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That´s true ;)
I drive my 45 with the singel circuit and drums on front and rear.
Most vintage cars here in Germany which have a single circuit are driven with this configuration... no disk or dual circuit upgrade.
Cheers
Peter
 
Dual circuit offers greater and more evenly distributed stopping power, which, as cars got faster became a neccesity; but somehow I don't think an FJ45LV is going to be a rocket on the streets.

The only other advantage is the parts availability: there are more dual circuit masters out there than single, but it takes alot to kill a master cylinder.

I say go for it, and see how you like the finishing results!
 
The stories I hear is something you don't want to talk about.

One massive failure on 8 wheel cylinders, 25 connections, 3 flex hoses, 12 brake lines, and you run into a situation where someone gets hurt - possibly killed.

I was moving forward with single circuit setup, when TornadoAlleyCruiser talked to me about safety and his thoughts and some history about those he loved that got hurt. Then he asked if my kids would ever be in the cruiser. Took me about .1 second to decide to go dual. He gratiously set me up with the adapter from Mark, and a booster to make it happen, plus all the assistance on the front axle swap to disks.

If I was going to stick with drums all around, I would have done the swap that I saw here......

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/456785-brake-master-option-early-fj40.html


Anyway... my thought is that I buy insurance to protect me if something goes wrong. Installing dual is your insurance that something has less chance of going wrong.
 
Combat Chuck said:
Dual circuit offers greater and more evenly distributed stopping power, which, as cars got faster became a neccesity; but somehow I don't think an FJ45LV is going to be a rocket on the streets.

The only other advantage is the parts availability: there are more dual circuit masters out there than single, but it takes alot to kill a master cylinder.

I say go for it, and see how you like the finishing results!
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:steer LOL Yea I agree with Chuck there was nothing wrong with the master in my 45 this trucks gonna see alot of miles in the coming years. I had no issues with the trip from Ca to Iowa. and we could go on forever about this bottom line is Toyota did a heck of a job building these and they have lasted for over 40 years. Run it Brother
 
ClemsonCruiser said:
I appreciate the input, but I guess I am just having a hard time understanding the "distrust" of the single circuit system. My reasoning being Toyota sold Land Cruisers for a decade or more with this system and people seemed survive some how on them, don't think Toyota would still be around if the case was different. I hope I am not coming off as a smart ass but it seems to me that the chances of a massive failure of the single circuit system is minuscule. I am not by any means arguing that dual circuits aren't superior, rather that I am willing to take the minute risk for the sake of doing a proper restoration. Maybe I am crazy but as I said before I drove my 1962 FJ40 with single circuit drums for several years and 1'000s of miles with no issues at all.

I doubt this LV will ever see anything other than back roads thus I am comfortable with keeping the single circuit system; hope I don't eat my words :doh:
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All you need is one failure point on your single circuit system and you have NO brakes. I'm not willing to take that risk if I don't need to. Especially after all the time and money you're going to put into this. Your truck used to live 25min from me, it's nice to see it coming back from the dead. Your truck, your choice, just giving my .02. :beer:
 
ClemsonCruiser said:
I appreciate the input, but I guess I am just having a hard time understanding the "distrust" of the single circuit system. My reasoning being Toyota sold Land Cruisers for a decade or more with this system and people seemed survive some how on them, don't think Toyota would still be around if the case was different.
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but also remember... now the single circuit you are using is what 40-50 years old...

so its not brand new any more...
 
Guys I do appreciate all the input and I understand and respect everyone's opinion on the added safety of the dual circuit. I guess I am just stubborn or maybe still too young and dumb but the single circuit for my application doesn't worry me much. In my eyes I am much more likely to get hit by some crazy person driving along at 80mph while trying to text than have a failure of my single circuit system.

I do plan on rebuilding the master as SOR still has kits for them, and there will be all new brake lines, wheel cycl., pads, etc. Hopefully that will bring everything up to snuff for many safe miles.

Thanks again for everyone's input it is nice to know you guys are worried about my safety :hillbilly:
 
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