You won't find a soul on Mud or anywhere else that will tell you that you can put 37' on a 80 with 4" lift either. Lift is often WAY overrated. I am chatting with a guy on Facebook right now that put 35's on a stock 100 with minimal rubbing.
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I will. J spring front and 2.5 heavy rear 37's fit fine on an 80. I'm running 5" lift with 40's
True 37s are no joke, but I don't see them as a good fit for you unless you want to cut sheet metal and limit wheel travel to hardly nothing. You should think about wheeling what you got before chasing this dragon.
You have the sway bar disconnect switch? That's a very nice feature to give up.
BTW- these even rub in the rear at full flex!
You have the sway bar disconnect switch? That's a very nice feature to give up.
BTW- these even rub in the rear at full flex!
I vote stay at 35s... Your not gonna wheel that hard enough to need 37s realistically I don't see you wheeling it hard enough to even need 35s. Now I don't know you and so my assessment could be wrong, but I think you are going after a look, and that look will come at a detriment to a lot of things -steering, brakes, suspension, fuel economy... I know I know you didn't buy a LC for the economic factor. I just think the loom you have now is the cats meow.... It clearly says capable (even before the bumpers and snorkel) and willing. I think if you go to 37s your gonna get more of a poser look. Granted there may be a few who already look at a 200 series and think, a$60k+ SUV is "never gonna leave the pavement who is he kidding" but to those of us in "the know" we see a very tastefully capable rig. And I dare say if some of us saw that with 37s we might be disappointed and loom at it as more of a "sellout"... In the end is your rig, and your money, I'm simple offering my point of view and what I'd do if it were mine -cause you know I wish it was lol
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I dunno man, I think 37s would look pretty sweet:
I don't think is looks too posery either, though I know what you are saying.
@jasonbraswell , I think for now, I am going to look into doing a body lift, and see what kind of clearance I can get. I have a set of extra wheels at my house, so if I can find a beater set of 37s, just to play around with (cough cough @wct49 ) (or score some old BFGs on Craigslist), I can do some experimenting with offsets, etc., and see if regearing may be needed. I have no qualms about cutting the front fenders a bit; hell, I have already drilled a hole for a snorkel! Just look at that picture; it's gorgeous.
I am going to order the correct Grade 8 M12 bolts from Fastenal, and see if I can find someone who can turn a few pucks for me out of UMHV or Aluminum.
I have been chatting with @beno , and he has been helping me with part numbers, and specs. He also suppled me with this diagram (which does not mention the mystery bolt!)
There are a few brackets in the engine bay that will need to be modified, not to mention the radiator support/shroud. There is also a mystery bolt that is only on the drivers side that attaches from the rear suspension cross member to the body (the round cross member behind the #3 part above). All bolts (besides the one just mentioned) look like they are easily accessed. Just for fun, I removed one this morning from the DS frame, and it took only a minute or two.
I don't think is looks too posery either, though I know what you are saying.
@jasonbraswell , I think for now, I am going to look into doing a body lift, and see what kind of clearance I can get. I have a set of extra wheels at my house, so if I can find a beater set of 37s, just to play around with (cough cough @wct49 ) (or score some old BFGs on Craigslist), I can do some experimenting with offsets, etc., and see if regearing may be needed. I have no qualms about cutting the front fenders a bit; hell, I have already drilled a hole for a snorkel! Just look at that picture; it's gorgeous.
I am going to order the correct Grade 8 M12 bolts from Fastenal, and see if I can find someone who can turn a few pucks for me out of UMHV or Aluminum.
I have been chatting with @beno , and he has been helping me with part numbers, and specs. He also suppled me with this diagram (which does not mention the mystery bolt!)
There are a few brackets in the engine bay that will need to be modified, not to mention the radiator support/shroud. There is also a mystery bolt that is only on the drivers side that attaches from the rear suspension cross member to the body (the round cross member behind the #3 part above). All bolts (besides the one just mentioned) look like they are easily accessed. Just for fun, I removed one this morning from the DS frame, and it took only a minute or two.
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That Cruiser has 37s? Well if so insert foot in mouth time meow. It does look good
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It does, and it looks good, don't it?
Suspension lifts - even the big ones - are one thing. Body lifts are another thing altogether. They're a whole different animal. Nolen gave good advice: you're entering a whole other level of "issues" with a body lift. Steering, tranny/t-case linkages, pipes/hoses, cooling fan, filling in spaces created my increased body height, etc. I now you didn't ask for my opinion, but I'd go with a taller lift before I installed a body lift.I dunno man, I think 37s would look pretty sweet:
I don't think is looks too posery either, though I know what you are saying.
@jasonbraswell , I think for now, I am going to look into doing a body lift, and see what kind of clearance I can get. I have a set of extra wheels at my house, so if I can find a beater set of 37s, just to play around with (cough cough @wct49 ) (or score some old BFGs on Craigslist), I can do some experimenting with offsets, etc., and see if regearing may be needed. I have no qualms about cutting the front fenders a bit; hell, I have already drilled a hole for a snorkel! Just look at that picture; it's gorgeous.
I am going to order the correct Grade 8 M12 bolts from Fastenal, and see if I can find someone who can turn a few pucks for me out of UMHV or Aluminum.
I have been chatting with @beno , and he has been helping me with part numbers, and specs. He also suppled me with this diagram (which does not mention the mystery bolt!)
There are a few brackets in the engine bay that will need to be modified, not to mention the radiator support/shroud. There is also a mystery bolt that is only on the drivers side that attaches from the rear suspension cross member to the body (the round cross member behind the #3 part above). All bolts (besides the one just mentioned) look like they are easily accessed. Just for fun, I removed one this morning from the DS frame, and it took only a minute or two.
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For a new set of tires and an 80, that doesn't seem like that bad if a deal...
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It really doesn't look too bad @dnp , especially because the maximum amount of lift I'd be going for is 1-1.5".
From looking at Bill Rogers site that Bomar posted earlier states that there are not many issues when going that small. Even the factory steering linkage can seem to handle it. Other sites I have seen have also stated that less than 2" has very few problems.
It also looks like the body/chassis mounting is extremely similar to the 100. Here's a thread showing how involved it is; looks to be a 4-5 hour job.
How's your 100 Series Body Lift?
From looking at Bill Rogers site that Bomar posted earlier states that there are not many issues when going that small. Even the factory steering linkage can seem to handle it. Other sites I have seen have also stated that less than 2" has very few problems.
It also looks like the body/chassis mounting is extremely similar to the 100. Here's a thread showing how involved it is; looks to be a 4-5 hour job.
How's your 100 Series Body Lift?
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When going with a body lift on your 200, to me the biggest thing is going to be the bumper gaps. You will have to fabricate some kind of lift brackets to raise the bumpers close up the gaps that the BL will create between them and the body.
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Yup. The good thing is, is due to the mounting system of the TJM, this should be fairly easy.
The ARB is supposed to be mounted about an inch or so away from the body (to allow for flex). I accidentally mounted my bumper, and cut the body flush with the top of the ARB. This means that even a BL of 1.5", I should still be in spec, or just slightly above. Either way, some trim, and it should be just fine.
I'll have to pull the TJM anyways to access 2 bolts, and fab some brackets for the radiator, so that will be a perfect time to tweak the mounting holes.
The ARB is supposed to be mounted about an inch or so away from the body (to allow for flex). I accidentally mounted my bumper, and cut the body flush with the top of the ARB. This means that even a BL of 1.5", I should still be in spec, or just slightly above. Either way, some trim, and it should be just fine.
I'll have to pull the TJM anyways to access 2 bolts, and fab some brackets for the radiator, so that will be a perfect time to tweak the mounting holes.
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I had been IM'ing him about the body lift as early as November. This has been on my radar for a while now.
Unfortunately, Kurt said that his shop did not do the body lift, but that Gieser Brothers in Phoenix Arizona did all the major work before they took possession of the truck. He also stated that the bill was well over $100k, not counting the price of the donor vehicle. So, he wasn't able to offer much help.
There are very very few (if any (as far as I know)) 200's with body lifts in the US. There may be one or two in Australia, and of course, most of the Arctic Trucks have BLs.
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Raising bumpers to compensate for body lifts turns even the best bumper into a damage multiplier. I ran body lifts for years on Bronco's. Had cooling issues in the summer, uneasy feeling when slamming on the brakes, t-case shifter that hit floorboard knocking it out of low range and not to mention the squeeks and rattles. I was young then and it was the easiest and cheapest way to fit 39.5" Bogger's. The thought of taking a good driving, safe and capable Cruiser and using a body lift gives me nightmares. But to each there own.
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ARB Amber Polycarbonate Lens Covers came in today. Fit great, and they are very high quality too. I am impressed.
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