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Just ordered me a set from Downunder. Putting them on with Js front and rear. My lift has been on since 2004 with the same shocks. Still rides decent. Can't wait to feel the difference.
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I ordered from Down south about 1 year ago (20,000 miles ago) and have been VERY happy. Down south was very helpful. I am running 861/862 with 40mm spacers all round. I have the shorter ones and have no problems. I have never measured how things are at full flex or full compression. But it all looks good.
Flank
American by Birth, Texan by the grace of God.
If you have doubts on a combination, you can also call FOX. They are an American company and I was able to get a tech to listen to my vehicle and setup and confirm that I needed the part number I had picked for the fronts. Also, great customer service when I had a front fail. They rebuilt it for free although I was out of warranty, technically. I did have to pick up a cheapie Monroe to hold me until it was returned in about week from the day I sent it off.
I matched the 2.0s and 850/860s. I am finding I still have a HUGE amount of body roll in corners. Is this experienced by anyone else or just the nature of the 80 (with a mild lift).
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^ shock absorbers mostly absorb shocks... Sway bars resist side to side roll.
The 80 is HEAVY, lots body roll is normal versus a leaf sprung vehicle or lighter vehicle.... Define "HUGE"...
cheers,
george.
The 80 is HEAVY, lots body roll is normal versus a leaf sprung vehicle or lighter vehicle.... Define "HUGE"...
cheers,
george.
Well I guess "huge" is hard to quantify. I live in a very twisty and hilly area, it feels like driving without a swaybar. Body roll is signifigiant enough I am aware of it on every corner and have to adjust speed consistantly to avoid feeling unsafe. (Moreso than I would consider normal)
My previous vehicle was an armored 2nd gen tacoma with 3+" lift. It weighed about the same loaded as the 80 unloaded. Obviously an apples to oranges comparison, I ran it with no sway bar period and it was signifigantly more stable. I know this is not an accurate comparison, I just couldnt even imagine running a taller lift on the 80 (and obviously people do!)
IFS vs solid axle... Also the roll center is higher on the FJ80's than the Taco. Push it a little bit, even though it feels like it's going to flop it won't unless you do something really dumb. I take 25 mph corners at 45-50 and haven't died yet.
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^ and the tacoma is rear leaf suspension.
A 4 coiled 80 series is a very different beast than IFS and rear leaf. Try driving a range rover (the older live axle coil suspension vehicles, not the later unibody pos version) if you want to experience body roll.
It's the nature of the beast that it rolls, the key is that the tyres are still solidly planted...
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A 4 coiled 80 series is a very different beast than IFS and rear leaf. Try driving a range rover (the older live axle coil suspension vehicles, not the later unibody pos version) if you want to experience body roll.
It's the nature of the beast that it rolls, the key is that the tyres are still solidly planted...
cheers,
george.
Yes I am well aware of the difference between ifs and solid axle, hence apples to oranges comparison.
If a large amount of body roll is normal, I can live with that. If the valving of the shocks does not impact this at all, I guess Im in the wrong forum.
If a large amount of body roll is normal, I can live with that. If the valving of the shocks does not impact this at all, I guess Im in the wrong forum.
alia176
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A heavier duty sway bar should help with the body rolling. I experience the same thing with a RTT on top of a 4" lifted 80, maybe a heavier rear or front sway bar is in my future!
lumbee1
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Bringing this back from the dead.
I just received my Fox Performance shocks from AutoAnything. I have Frankie's Offroad 3.5" lift so I went with the 3-4" front shocks and the 3-5" rear shocks. The front shocks are perfect. Loads of stroke with the bump stop contacting before the shock stop. The rears are a different story. The shocks are way too long. The axle droops so far the springs can fall out. With the truck sitting at ride height, I only have 3" of stroke on the shock. Bump stops need to be extended but I full expected to be able to tuck the tire more and not have so much droop. I have approximately 5 miles on the shocks and while the ride great, I am now forced to find new rear springs and possibly sell the rears shocks to buy the shorter 1.5-2.5" shocks.
I've contacted Fox about this. I am waiting to hear what they have to say.
My bumpstops are not even close to the axle.
Sitting at ride height I have 3" of stroke on the shock.
I just received my Fox Performance shocks from AutoAnything. I have Frankie's Offroad 3.5" lift so I went with the 3-4" front shocks and the 3-5" rear shocks. The front shocks are perfect. Loads of stroke with the bump stop contacting before the shock stop. The rears are a different story. The shocks are way too long. The axle droops so far the springs can fall out. With the truck sitting at ride height, I only have 3" of stroke on the shock. Bump stops need to be extended but I full expected to be able to tuck the tire more and not have so much droop. I have approximately 5 miles on the shocks and while the ride great, I am now forced to find new rear springs and possibly sell the rears shocks to buy the shorter 1.5-2.5" shocks.
I've contacted Fox about this. I am waiting to hear what they have to say.
My bumpstops are not even close to the axle.
Sitting at ride height I have 3" of stroke on the shock.
Yeah, mine seemed too long in the rear too but with your lift I would have thought it would be perfect. This was brought up in another thread and the consensus was to add a strap over the spring, welded to the perch. The shocks were not designed to hold he spring in.
Bringing this back from the dead.
I just received my Fox Performance shocks from AutoAnything. I have Frankie's Offroad 3.5" lift so I went with the 3-4" front shocks and the 3-5" rear shocks. The front shocks are perfect. Loads of stroke with the bump stop contacting before the shock stop. The rears are a different story. The shocks are way too long. The axle droops so far the springs can fall out. With the truck sitting at ride height, I only have 3" of stroke on the shock. Bump stops need to be extended but I full expected to be able to tuck the tire more and not have so much droop. I have approximately 5 miles on the shocks and while the ride great, I am now forced to find new rear springs and possibly sell the rears shocks to buy the shorter 1.5-2.5" shocks.
I've contacted Fox about this. I am waiting to hear what they have to say.
My bumpstops are not even close to the axle.
Sitting at ride height I have 3" of stroke on the shock.
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I'd be surprised if you are actually getting 3.5" of lift. I am definitely lower than that and have just over 4" up travel. Bumps stops absolutely need to be lowered and steel strap to hold the springs. I bolted mine to the purchase. That is the price you pay for more downtravel, it's a good thing. With 35s on the (lowered) bumps stops you will be stuffed pretty good. With the shorter shock you would probably only get another .75" up travel before rubbing anyway.
I thought they were to long at first but love them after necessary mods.
BTW in running 860 with 1.25" spacer in the rear.
In the front I am running the long shocks and no mods were necessary, even the bump was fine.
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Update: noticed one of the front shocks had an oily mess at the bottom of the body, and below the lower mounting point in the fall. Looked into rebuilding, ended up buying a new set of fronts. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, both rear shocks have oil at the bottom of the bodies. 3/4 of them have blown, about 2 years of use, 15,000kms, 99% on-road use, all off warranty when they went. Not impressed with how long these have lasted.
I'll be putting boots on them when the new ones go on.
I'll be putting boots on them when the new ones go on.
Flank
American by Birth, Texan by the grace of God.
FWIW, I had a failure on a front (might have even been documented in earlier page of this thread) and called FOX to talk it over. I was out of warranty but they agreed it might have been premature and rebuilt it for me. A conversation with them might render acceptable results. Especially if you let them know you write on a national forum...
Wow this is unfortunate. I am roughly 1 year in with about the same amount of km, and quite a bit of offload use with no failures yet. I hope your experience is not a reflection of longevity for everyone.
Question, did you adjust your bumps to ensure shocks are not bottoming out?
No, I haven't adjusted my bump stops, probably worth looking into before putting the new ones on though to rule it out. Like I said though, 99% on-road use where that shouldn't be an issue.
FWIW, I had a failure on a front (might have even been documented in earlier page of this thread) and called FOX to talk it over. I was out of warranty but they agreed it might have been premature and rebuilt it for me. A conversation with them might render acceptable results. Especially if you let them know you write on a national forum...
Interesting on all the failure(s).
I too had a front fail at >10,000 miles, 99% on-road use, just out of warranty- I reached out to Fox, they offered zero help. Sonny at Down South gave me a good deal on a replacement, though....
Curious if the front failures you both experienced were on the passenger side?
C
My front failure was RHD driver's side, so passenger side for you.
