PabloCruise
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ORLY?
Did it look like this? I just found this recently on my '74. Do these guys not learn from mistakes?
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ORLY?
Did it look like this? I just found this recently on my '74. Do these guys not learn from mistakes?
Yes - my crack looked like that almost exactly. I installed a '71 pig tank from a junkyard that was not cracked. That could easily be welded, however, with due precautions for it being a gas tank and all....
No, it appears Land Cruiser wagons have stupidly high gas tank pressures through the mid-1990s
No, it appears Land Cruiser wagons have stupidly high gas tank pressures through the mid-1990s
PabloCruise
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How could this happen if the vapor separator is higher than the tank and the charcoal canister?
PabloCruise
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Yes - my crack looked like that almost exactly. I installed a '71 pig tank from a junkyard that was not cracked. That could easily be welded, however, with due precautions for it being a gas tank and all....
No, it appears Land Cruiser wagons have stupidly high gas tank pressures through the mid-1990s
Do you think our Pig tank cracks are due to pressure, or being solid mounted to the frame w/ no bushings to insulate tank from flex?
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Can you part it out before you hand it over? My body has some bad rust... Would they care if it had no motor? 
Do you think our Pig tank cracks are due to pressure, or being solid mounted to the frame w/ no bushings to insulate tank from flex?
Age and pressure, is guess. I think if the tank were flexing, it wouldn't crack in that location. Pure speculation, however.
Age and pressure, is guess. I think if the tank were flexing, it wouldn't crack in that location. Pure speculation, however.
PabloCruise
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I want to get my old tank fixed. Is best bet to drill holes at each end of the crack and then get welded/brazed?
Was going to say the same thing. Having just had my 62 totaled, what you paid is certainly irrelevant. Check auto trader. That's what my insurance company did (not sure where at fault company came up with theirs). Bad part about that is one day autotrader will have three over 20k, and the next those are gone and they have been replaced with three rusted hulks at 4500.
I got stuck in that situation once. Now I keep a log of who I talk to and when and what was said. Ocassionally I record the conversation. If it was good enough for trickie Dick, it's good enough for me.
Thought for a new thread...
Post copies of Craigslist, Ebay and other For Sale ads and final sale prices for LandCruiser. When the sales are over, the ads disappear, posting copies here would give a historical record of prices for situations like these.
Maybe even make this a sticky?
Post copies of Craigslist, Ebay and other For Sale ads and final sale prices for LandCruiser. When the sales are over, the ads disappear, posting copies here would give a historical record of prices for situations like these.
Maybe even make this a sticky?
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So they have not gotten back to me at all but it is ok bc I love her to much i cant give her up but just want to know what they would give.
SHERMAN FJ62
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This seems like a time wasting post.
Man come on, are you talking with a dealership or Toyota corporate? Call corporate and open a claim or case or file or whatever and tell them you have a Toyota that needs a recall done and they are required by federal law to provide some type of remedy for the situation. Tell them you want the name of a contact person, contact number and the case # etc...
I agree with 89cruiser. I basically did the same loop, called Toyota got the case started, then waited around for them to figure out they couldn't fix it they then said buy back was only option. Took it to the stealership and got a few pics snapped now I'm waiting, coincidentally for the same girl in the offer above, to get back to me with an offer. Also coincidentally, Cruiser Parts out on the East Coast has tanks, not new, used but the recalled version for 450$ plus shipping. If the offer I get is not up to snuff I'll most likely buy one and fix it then send the bill to Toyota via small claims and see where that goes. Also CP states they have plenty of tanks, just not new. I'll let you all know what my offer is. 711fj62, don't give up or in to they confusing loop.
don't see how you guys expect toyota to pay anything on a used fuel tank.... I believe buyback generally work like this. (1) the mfg makes an offer to pay you for your truck....you accept and they pay and then they crush the vehicle (2) You don't accept and you go about your business as normal.
I don't follow what you can claim or sue in small claims court...yes you can sue for about anything under the sun that the court will permit...but what will be the merit of your claim....that since no new fuel tanks are available that you have installed a used fuel tank and expect toyota to pay for that in lieu of buying your truck back at some avg market price? I don't believe deals are negotiated in this manner.... I don't believe a court can force a company to enter into further legal/product liability...if they have made a good faith offer to buy the truck back...since once the truck is sold back to Toyota and crushed...all liability issues go away specific to that individual vehicle.
Most likely you will have issues down range if you decide on legal action since you are aware that the fuel tanks were recalled based on certain defects...and you chose not to have the recall performed or you chose not to sell your truck back to toyota once you became informed and contacted Toyota about the issue.
I said all the above to say this....I think there is a single path here....negotiate or take the vehicle buy-back $$ and give up your truck or move on with whatever you want to do to fix your truck under your own $$.
Have anyone ever heard of any mfg paying to install a used part in lieu of buying the truck outright. The remedy is the buy-back and thats a one-way path.
I don't follow what you can claim or sue in small claims court...yes you can sue for about anything under the sun that the court will permit...but what will be the merit of your claim....that since no new fuel tanks are available that you have installed a used fuel tank and expect toyota to pay for that in lieu of buying your truck back at some avg market price? I don't believe deals are negotiated in this manner.... I don't believe a court can force a company to enter into further legal/product liability...if they have made a good faith offer to buy the truck back...since once the truck is sold back to Toyota and crushed...all liability issues go away specific to that individual vehicle.
Most likely you will have issues down range if you decide on legal action since you are aware that the fuel tanks were recalled based on certain defects...and you chose not to have the recall performed or you chose not to sell your truck back to toyota once you became informed and contacted Toyota about the issue.
I said all the above to say this....I think there is a single path here....negotiate or take the vehicle buy-back $$ and give up your truck or move on with whatever you want to do to fix your truck under your own $$.
Have anyone ever heard of any mfg paying to install a used part in lieu of buying the truck outright. The remedy is the buy-back and thats a one-way path.
PabloCruise
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I don't believe a manufacturer can force you to give up your vehicle simply because they are tired of managing a recall. That blows donkey dick...
there is no force...you can accept the buy-back or not. Since there are apparently no new fuel tanks to be had...the recall can't be performed. If the mfg makes a good faith effort to negotiate and pay for the truck..that's where this path takes you. If you chose not to accept the buyback I guess you can retain legal counsel but I'm not clear where or what they will do for you except cost you $$. If you want to keep the truck...buy a gas tank and install it...and move on... I'm not a lawyer but I believe thats what your options are...
Not worth going to court on a $500 dollar used part, and if you did I suspect the Judge is going to say you have two choices as I mentioned...you can take the buy-back offer and give up your truck or you can select not to take the buy-back and if so...then have a nice day. The legal system may make you pay for court costs too. I doubt the judge is inclined to delve into some settlement when the MFG has or potentially will have offered to buy the vehicle back and the consumer refused that deal.
I will say that this thread probably does not contain all the facts nor do I assume or pretend to know all the facts.
Not worth going to court on a $500 dollar used part, and if you did I suspect the Judge is going to say you have two choices as I mentioned...you can take the buy-back offer and give up your truck or you can select not to take the buy-back and if so...then have a nice day. The legal system may make you pay for court costs too. I doubt the judge is inclined to delve into some settlement when the MFG has or potentially will have offered to buy the vehicle back and the consumer refused that deal.
I will say that this thread probably does not contain all the facts nor do I assume or pretend to know all the facts.
Hell, instead of taking them to small claims court (I'm assuming Toyota probably has a large stable of highly paid lawyers, and none of us do..), you'd probably be better off starting an online bitch-fest toward Toyota to get them to make a run of tanks.. Just my $.02...
If I were in the same situation (luckily the recall has been done on my truck on the fuel tank). I would only go to court to argue the merits of getting a higher price for my 60 if I felt the offer from toyota was a low ball. Obviously you would need data to back up your claim. Thats the place where you potentially could prove your case and actually obtain a better deal in the overall picture with respect to $$ if the judge were so inclined to entertain that. If you have to deal with arbitration...then the same thing...its only worth it if you think you can get more money for your vehicle and you have data to supports your position.
