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We use a lot of that style regulator too at work and there is nothing wrong with them. It depends on the manufacturer (we use mostly Parker), but their suitability also depends on their size. 1/4 inch might be a little puny for this application. It may not be enough flow to seat a bead, but it will fill tires and run an ARB. The 3/8 included in the kit will be much better.

Not sure what manufacturers we use on ours but these two styles are the ones that look like what we use. There are regulators out in the field that are going on 30 years old and still work great.

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"Those type"? As opposed to what other type of regulator? Most regulators used in OBA kits are the same type but a cheaper version. I'm using Norgren and its beefy as hell. The HB and Viair ones are puny.

See above.

A company called Texas Sampling installed closed loop sampling stations that use the ones you're using and they're garbage. Maybe it's the brand they use but like I just mentioned above the ones that the refinery I work at purchases are extremely reliable. They're used for all of our control valves. Not sure if they make them small enough for your application, just sharing my experience with them.

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those regulators are fisher valves ;)
 
Just went out and looked and the brand that the sample station uses are Norgren. Hope they work better for you.
 
Those are very different types of regulators. The first one appears to be for fuel gas applications with a typical inlet pressure of 10-20 inches of water to fixed outlet 3 inches. The second type is adjustable, but it is not designed to be as easily adjustable as the ones with a knob and a lock ring.

Joey has the right type of regulator for the job.
 
You're correct. The first is what we use for the pilot gas to our heaters. The second is an adjustable and is used for all of the instrument air and nitrogen to our controllers.

I'm not saying he's got the wrong regulator, just sharing my experience with them.
 
Not sure what manufacturers we use on ours but these two styles are the ones that look like what we use. There are regulators out in the field that are going on 30 years old and still work great.

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See above.

A company called Texas Sampling installed closed loop sampling stations that use the ones you're using and they're garbage. Maybe it's the brand they use but like I just mentioned above the ones that the refinery I work at purchases are extremely reliable. They're used for all of our control valves. Not sure if they make them small enough for your application, just sharing my experience with them.

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Hahahaha! No and um no :P

Right component for the right application. Neither of those are suitable.
 
Just went out and looked and the brand that the sample station uses are Norgren. Hope they work better for you.

Im all ears. What makes them garbage? What's the application? What pressures? What gases? Liquids? I could go cheap and just use a Harbor Freight or the one that Viair uses. Parker and Swagelok are painfully expensive. My old co-workers work in a laser foundry, specifically an MOCVD lab. Their clean room seems to be a mix of Swagelok and Norgren. I asked their feedback. They haven't detailed anything out of the ordinary. Of course their application is not mine but I found it interesting they were using the brands I was looking at.
 
Any movement on shipping the York kit? Bracket and pulley info?

As of today...

The fabricator brought two things to my attention that he needed feedback on. I was traveling and missed his message so that added a delay. He's on vacation this week but, he's got what he needs to continue with the rest of the welding and is currently looking to ship out to me next week.

Everything else I have and good to go, including the pulley. They are all wrapped and ready to go.
 
At the end of the day you may find that the puny hole in the male quick disconnect plug on the hose end is the limiting factor for airing up and not the regulator.
 
Im all ears. What makes them garbage? What's the application? What pressures? What gases? Liquids? I could go cheap and just use a Harbor Freight or the one that Viair uses. Parker and Swagelok are painfully expensive. My old co-workers work in a laser foundry, specifically an MOCVD lab. Their clean room seems to be a mix of Swagelok and Norgren. I asked their feedback. They haven't detailed anything out of the ordinary. Of course their application is not mine but I found it interesting they were using the brands I was looking at.

Like I previously mentioned they're used for our closed loop sampling stations specifically for sour water. Those specific ones are used only for nitrogen and they're set around 35 psi. If I'm catching a sample in a plastic bottle the nitrogen is to keep a purge through the bottle so I don't get exposed to the H2S that is usually present in what I'm sampling. But as I open the valve to let the sample in the bottle the flow meter rarely jumps up like it's supposed to. To get it to work right I'll either tap on the body with a wrench or adjust it up or and a little bit, but even then it doesn't always work and I just continue taking the sample anyways. I end up smelling the H2S but it's never enough to set off my monitor which goes off at a low of 10 ppm and then again for 20+ ppm. The vendor will then come out and do their thing and take one sample and call it fixed and then a day or two later it's back to not working right. Sometimes they'll replace it and it works good for a while but at some point they stop working right.

This is an example of one of our sample stations. It's not exact but you get the idea.

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Like you said though my application not yours just like your co-workers isn't so hopefully it works out for you.
 
As of now I have the Tank & Bracket Rear Kit sorted out and ready to go into production just as soon as I make up a steel prototype of the mounting bracket in the morning. The Rear Kit is to mount the tank UNDER the truck where the spare was. Key word "WAS". I am making up the two other tank mounting options as time permits but I need to finish off the manifold bracket quick.
 
Which tank did you end up going with?
 
Picked up Viair's little hose connection kit. On a whim. I don't recommend this for a few reasons. Not that it's junk, per se, just that I'm not recommending it for use in this setup.

* the hose is 1/4" vs the 3/8" I'm supplying
* the quality of the 1/4" hose isn't the greatest
* the brass fittings are compression fittings vs push-in. In my opinion it's better to keep all fittings consisting.
* the disconnect is standard international type but I highly doubt it uses 100% stainless steel intervals (rust)

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I would be interested if you could make a mount that would accept a magnum and their 8 gal tank (I think that is the size). I've got a crappy welded together frame, but I would be interested in something that bolted up....just food for thought if you're going to all the trouble, maybe fitting for another application will have you tapped into another product as well.

Are you looking to provide a high temp hose? Technically, a high temp hose should be ran from compressor to tank.

And I know you guys will hate hearing this, but the norgen regulator looks my harbor freight one....
 
sorry I missed this, I was working a show in Boston average week was 75 hr through march April & may did not have time to play on mud. I'm in if you run another batch. Or if someone backs out
 
I would be interested if you could make a mount that would accept a magnum and their 8 gal tank (I think that is the size). I've got a crappy welded together frame, but I would be interested in something that bolted up....just food for thought if you're going to all the trouble, maybe fitting for another application will have you tapped into another product as well.

Are you looking to provide a high temp hose? Technically, a high temp hose should be ran from compressor to tank.

And I know you guys will hate hearing this, but the norgen regulator looks my harbor freight one....

8 gallon?! That's approaching shop size. Why an 8 gallon tank?

I will be sourcing the high temp discharge hose that goes to the manifold. I could supply longer runs for different applications.

As far as HB, I don't shop there so I wouldn't really know. The Viair one I could see being similar. The Norgren one is pretty beefy. But...to eliminate confusion (or add to it) I'll pick one up and compare it.
 
sorry, that's a 4 gal tank. But, my "shop" compressor is 60 gal :)
 

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