ARCHIVE Bolt-on HMMWV H1 Wheels (3 Viewers)

[NKP Garage]

Introducing the new EMSPowered wheel adapters for the 1991-1997 Toyota Land Cruiser and Lexus LX450.

These custom designed wheel adapters allow you to bolt a HMMWV (Hummer H1) wheel directly onto your Land Cruiser without any modifications to the wheel or to your Land Cruiser. These EMSPowered wheel adapters are:
* Hub-centric and lug-centric to the Land Cruiser / LX450
* Hub-centric and lug-centric to the HMMWV H1 Hummer wheels
* CAD designed, highway tested, trail tested, load tested
* CNC machined from billet aluminum
* Lifetime warranty!

Includes:
* 4 custom EMSPowered wheel adapters CNC machined from billet aluminum
* All of the necessary hardware and new lug nuts for all 4 adapters and wheels

For surplus HMMWV Wheels and tires we recommend MilitaryOffroadTires.net. They have great prices and they are always in stock.

Available in two sizes on our website (or custom sizes by request).

Pricing is on our website, and you can place your order on the website or by phone: http://www.emspowered.com/storefron...ct_info&cPath=61_119_120_313&products_id=1152

Pricing is on our website, and you can place your order on the website or by phone: http://www.emspowered.com/storefron...ct_info&cPath=61_119_120_313&products_id=1152

 

[Ugly Dwarf]

Love the ring of studs for your beadlocks...

Perfect for chariot racing.

Did you get those off Pirate? I seem to recall seeing someone selling something similar a year or two back.

 

[wrongway around]

yes looks sawsome ,but would you not want to have a little shorter studs so they won't bend. what adapter is your spacer,and the thickness .

 

[95LCMachine]

They look super tough. Well done.
Any idea on how much they weigh?

 

[scottryana]

Stock hummwv wheels always have long studs, the reason is to be able to pull the two wheel halves together on assembly. One of the smart things that Hutchinson started doing with their Rockmonster beadlock wheel line is only using a few long studs and then using shorter studs once you pulled them together. I am sure Baktash will trim the lug studs, but as I understand it, this was a fresh off the CNC set of adapters and they were just put on to test fit everything.

 

[bhmmapping]

8 lugs?

 

[scottryana]

Custom made Spacer/Adapter to go from 6-8 lug and properly space the 7" backspaced HMMWV wheel to the correct backspacing for the 80 series.

 

[Wiscolandcruiser]

That looks sick, are these going to be available or is it a one off thing?

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[DudeAbides]

That's interesting, I had seen similar ones before for Jeep JK's, something like 3" spacers so you end up with 4" backspacing. That would cut down on one of the big problems with the military beadlocks, wobble from the new welded centers not being true.

 

[donutfj80]

http://www.trailworthyfab.com/
You can also get 6 lug centers to press or weld in

 

[DBWood]

So, What you are saying, is that I would be able to run my H1 wheels on my 80 without any mods to the H1 wheels.... Me likey.
Just another reason to get my $ss in gear and lift the 80.

 

[cody c]

http://www.trailworthyfab.com/
You can also get 6 lug centers to press or weld in

Yeah, those guys got lots of cool options, I like the metal they weld in to protect all the bolts and stuff.

 

[NKP Garage]

Custom made Spacer/Adapter to go from 6-8 lug and properly space the 7" backspaced HMMWV wheel to the correct backspacing for the 80 series.

scottryana has it right.

That looks sick, are these going to be available or is it a one off thing?

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Yes, these will be offered as an EMSPowered product/package once we put it through our testing.

That's interesting, I had seen similar ones before for Jeep JK's, something like 3" spacers so you end up with 4" backspacing. That would cut down on one of the big problems with the military beadlocks, wobble from the new welded centers not being true.

That is exactly the reason we made these. To be able to run HMMWV Military double beadlock wheels without having to worry about the "death wobble" associated with re-centered wheels where they cut out and weld or press in a new center. The way we're doing it here there is no chance of any component being off center.

So, What you are saying, is that I would be able to run my H1 wheels on my 80 without any mods to the H1 wheels.... Me likey.
Just another reason to get my $ss in gear and lift the 80.

Yes.

A couple more photos attached to show fitment. More details in next post

 

[Doc]

Those look awesome. Good job man!

 

[NKP Garage]

Here is the rundown of how this came about....

We started looking into moving up to a 37" tire on the EMSPowered FZJ80. A few things that became apparent quick:

* 37" tires are around $400-500 per tire
* Bead lock wheels are around $375-600 per wheel, and they're only a single bead lock, not double beadlock. So if the inside bead pops you're still stuck on the trail.
* Add up the cost of a set of 37's and a set of single bead lock wheels and you're already at around $3000 even on the cheaper end of the scale or at $4300+ at the more expensive end of the scale. You end up with a single bead lock wheel that is still vulnerable to popping the inner bead. And next time you need tires you'll be paying $1600+ for another set of 37" tires.


The other option that has been out there for a few years was re-centered HMMWV wheels. Re-centered HMMWV wheels are typically around $250-400 per wheel. This is where a company takes a military HMMWV surplus wheel, they cut the center out of the wheel and then weld in a new center at the desired offset and bolt-pattern. This is a good option for the offroader that does not see much street/highway use. It allows you to run a double bead lock HMMWV wheel. It allows you to purchase military surplus HMMWV 37" tires that fit the HMMWV wheels for around $75-150 (depending on where you get them). Anytime you blow a tire or need a set of new ones the cost for a set of replacement tires is much less. The problem that comes with re-centered wheels is that no matter how well they're done, there is still a good chance that the new center that is welded or pressed in is not going to be true center. This causes an out of balance wheel at normal driving or highway speeds, and what people who have tried them and had problems usually call "death wobble". Every once in a while you get lucky and you'll get a re-centered wheel that is perfectly centered, but more times than not they're not.


The other option which is what we went with is to keep use the HMMWV double bead lock wheels in original form without modification. But the HMMWV wheels are 16.5x8.25 with a 7" backspacing and an 8x6.5 bolt pattern. No chance that will fit on a Land Cruiser. You could use a combination of adapters and spacers, but there are no spacers or adapters on the market that would a correct fit for this setup. To do it right you would need a wheel adapter that goes from the Toyota Land Cruiser 6x5.5 lug pattern to 8x6.5 HMMWV lug pattern, while being hub-centric and lug-centric to the Land Cruiser hub and also hub-centric and lug-centric to the HMMWV wheel, and also the being the correct depth to put the wheel backspacing at the correct place for the Land Cruiser. There wasn't an adapter out there that did all these things properly. So we measured, re-measured, drew one up on CAD, measured again, did some more measuring, cut a sample from scrap material, adjusted the CAD drawings, measured some more, had a set cut on the CNC and thats where we are today. The first set is on the truck for testing.

We'll be testing these for the next few weeks and putting them to the test at highway speeds, street driving, beating them up on the trails and rocks to test strength and checking them at intervals along the way. Once we're done with testing they'll be available for sale for you guys.

The advantage of doing it this way? You don't modify the wheel so it stays truly centered. You don't modify your vehicle. You have a proper hub-centric/lug-centric setup so that the wheel and hub always stay centered together. You are able to run the military 8 bolt, 12 bolt or 24 bolt double bead lock wheels without modification, and they cost around $75-150 per wheel (sometimes as low as $50). Because you're running a double bead lock wheel you can air down to 0 psi (zero) if you really wanted to and you won't lose the bead. You are able to purchase military surplus HMMWV tires at $75-150 per tire (sometimes less). And if you really want to be ready for the zombie apocalypse you can even run the military HMMWV runflat inserts so that you can keep on driving even if someone shoots out your tire

We'll also be working on a bolt-on "rock-ring" to protect the studs for you hardcore rock crawler types that are worried about the studs poking out.

 

[NKP Garage]

For those wondering, the wheels on our truck were standard black military surplus. We stripped them down to the metal and powdercoated the wheels in our "dark bronze metallic". I think the color goes nicely with the OEM Sage color on our 40th.

We can coat them in any color you guys want once we start selling these, orange, red, black, white, bronze, purple, yellow, silver, smoked chrome, wrinkle black, blue, green, brown, gold, etc... etc... etc... Any color you can think of.

 

[NKP Garage]

Closeup of the wheel after powdercoating

 

[AMMO]

I run the trail worthy fab wheels with a pressed center. They are straight and true, the weld in centers are for Offroad use only. The press fit centers will sit the tire flush to the flair if you still have flairs.

The dual beadloc is the way to go for sure, heavy tho. Why did you opt for the million bolt wheel? Curious, the 8 bolts are more then enough given our 80's weight.

Ammo

 

[scottryana]

This is the 80 section if some is good more is always better!! I am not sure the 8 bolt wheels are a good example there have been a lot of problems with 8 bolt wheels not sealing. Not to mention it is stamped right on the 8 bolt wheel that it is only rated to 30psi, most D or E rated tires are rated to 65psi. So at the minimum I would go 12 bolt if you are doing HMMWV wheels.

 

[akarilo]

So let's see the adapter?