I have been on the fence about going to military surplus wheels and tires. Looking forward to your testing.
ARCHIVE Bolt-on HMMWV H1 Wheels
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I need to stop looking at this thread. Those wheels are a big pile of sex. Want.
You aren't the only one I have checked this 5 times in the last hour.
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I ruptured a disc just looking at those.
How much do they weigh?
How much do they weigh?
12 bolt wheels weight +- 43lbs, the new 24 bolt wheels are within a few pounds of that. The real extra weight for the military 24 bolt combo came with the uprated tires need for the 11,500lbs uparmored HMMWV's. The new military combo is about 168lbs. These probably weight 130lbs give or take.
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Yea fxxx that.
You don't have to run the military tires...Trxus MT's and BFG AT's are available for 16.5" wheels.
Well to compare apples to apples a 37" Goodyear MTR with a Walker Evans Aluminum single beadlock is a 73lb tire and a 43lb rim so 116lbs combo. For 14 more pounds you get a steel double beadlock. For some applications it works well, for others total overkill.
I can do some research into any differences between up armored and regular soft skin HMMWV tires since I'm an army guy who lives and breathes this stuff...hopefully it's lighter.
Im curious about the difference between the pressed centers and welded centers.
Pressed centers sounds like they are just pressed in and makes me think they would be weak.
Could you indulge a bit more info about this please? They do look like great wheels but i would rather have a 6 bolt wheel then an 8 bolt with an adapter myself.
Pressed centers are stronger. The "pressed" refers to them being stamped steel, giving it more structural rigidity. They are still welded in, but only can be had in 3.5" backspacing or less. They tend to run more true.
The "welded" centers are cut out of steel plate, so they are flat. This allows more than 3.5" of backspacing but they can bend easier because they are flat and are damn near impossible to make run true.
The "welded" centers are cut out of steel plate, so they are flat. This allows more than 3.5" of backspacing but they can bend easier because they are flat and are damn near impossible to make run true.
Hey Pete-
Thank you for helping out with the description. While I do agree with what you said about the pressed and flat center strength setup I will disagree with making the wheel run true.
It takes the same amount of effort to dial in a wheel whether you use the flat or pressed. It is just easier to tweak the flat plate centers. Especially with the smaller bolt patterns. They put more leverage on the center of the plate versus the guys who run the larger bolt circles.
I was sent a link to this thread by Cody. I will do my best to answer any questions you guys may have. So fire away.
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Why not go with the 24 bolt wheel? The 24 bolt wheel is more robust and most of them are in better shape than the old school 8/12 bolt wheels. Why not go with a better wheel when it's available for only a few dollars more? Some people say because it's a hassle to tighten 24 bolts on each wheel. That is just silly, you're not pulling the wheel apart once a week. It's something you do once in a blue moon or when you're replacing tires. So the answer, because it's a better wheel and the price/weight are nearly the same.This is the 80 section if some is good more is always better!!I am not sure the 8 bolt wheels are a good example there have been a lot of problems with 8 bolt wheels not sealing. Not to mention it is stamped right on the 8 bolt wheel that it is only rated to 30psi, most D or E rated tires are rated to 65psi. So at the minimum I would go 12 bolt if you are doing HMMWV wheels.
I didn't get a chance to take pics of the CNC machined adapters before we put them on the truck. Once we pull them off for the preliminary inspections I'll snap a few photos for you guys.
They do look nice dont they? I've been getting rubberneck looks and people hanging out of their windows camera in hand in parking lots. To be honest it was more of a functional thing for us, I didn't think it would get so many looks.
I ruptured a disc just looking at those.
How much do they weigh?
They're not a light weight racing wheel/tire setup by any means. But as scottryana mentioned, they're not much heavier than a single beadlock wheel. If you're going to go with beadlocks they're a great choice IMO.
Impressions so far....
* Wheels are riding true and center.
* The HMMWV military tires are quieter on the road than my previous 315/75/16 (35") mud terrain tires.
* Steering response is better than my previous 315/75/16 (35") mud terrain tires. Probably due to the stiffer sidewall.
* Aired down to 5psi and went over some basic obstacles, the tire/wheel combo took it like a champ and the bead stayed in place. Forced the tire up against the curb to try and purposely try and pop the bead off, it never budged. Aired back up to 37psi and back on the side streets and highway and it rode very well.
* So far, very impressed with the results. Still need to do more on-road and off-road testing.
Hurry up with that testing already I "need" those
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Soon.
Installed MetalTech sliders and front bumper so that we can rough it up and put the wheel/tire/adapter combo through some rough trails without damaging our FZJ80. Thanks LT & the great folks at MetalTech!
Looking good!
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Hell ya looks noice!
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Great job for coming up with spacer/adapter. Are you gonna offer it as a spacer and wheel combo or just the spacer? Either way put me in line for a set 
