ARCHIVE Bolt-on HMMWV H1 Wheels

[cody c]

Hey Pete-
Thank you for helping out with the description. While I do agree with what you said about the pressed and flat center strength setup I will disagree with making the wheel run true.

It takes the same amount of effort to dial in a wheel whether you use the flat or pressed. It is just easier to tweak the flat plate centers. Especially with the smaller bolt patterns. They put more leverage on the center of the plate versus the guys who run the larger bolt circles.

I was sent a link to this thread by Cody. I will do my best to answer any questions you guys may have. So fire away.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, I really like the look of these tires, would look great on my 80!

 

[FastCarGuy]

Subscribed! Any idea on when these might be avail.?

 

[NKP Garage]

Looking good!

**** ya looks noice!

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Thanks!

Great job for coming up with spacer/adapter. Are you gonna offer it as a spacer and wheel combo or just the spacer? Either way put me in line for a set

The wheel adapters will be available for sure. We may offer combos with the wheels and/or tires as well.

Subscribed! Any idea on when these might be avail.?

I'll keep you guys posted. They'll be available for orders soon

 

[92LXAZ]

Do you have a price point yet? Even if just a range. Thanks.

 

[yohavos]

Great job for coming up with spacer/adapter. Are you gonna offer it as a spacer and wheel combo or just the spacer? Either way put me in line for a set

Haha, what are you up to man?? Didn't you just get a set of 345's?

 

[AMMO]

Why not go with the 24 bolt wheel? The 24 bolt wheel is more robust and most of them are in better shape than the old school 8/12 bolt wheels. Why not go with a better wheel when it's available for only a few dollars more? Some people say because it's a hassle to tighten 24 bolts on each wheel. That is just silly, you're not pulling the wheel apart once a week. It's something you do once in a blue moon or when you're replacing tires. So the answer, because it's a better wheel and the price/weight are nearly the same.

Have you tried to balance these yet.... The more bolts you have the more variables in balancing. HMMV's don't balance wheels, 8 bolt, 24bolt they all run bias tires in the sand. Go for a run down the interstate with these wheels and then let me know how 24's are needed on an 80. Word of caution don't use BB's inside these, they will clump and stick to the internal O ring that must be lubed for proper seal.

But that's just my experience, and I use my rig for SAR in central Oregon. I regularly have mine down to 3 to 5 psi in the sand dunes or Cascade Mt's in 3 to 5' off snow on missions. I should also mention I'm above 7K lbs last time across the scale.

Ammo.

 

[AMMO]

This is the 80 section if some is good more is always better!! I am not sure the 8 bolt wheels are a good example there have been a lot of problems with 8 bolt wheels not sealing. Not to mention it is stamped right on the 8 bolt wheel that it is only rated to 30psi, most D or E rated tires are rated to 65psi. So at the minimum I would go 12 bolt if you are doing HMMWV wheels.

I suppose you heed the "Military Use Only" stamp... And 8 bolts have a Max Load stamp of 2850 lbs per wheel, FYI

 

[NKP Garage]

Do you have a price point yet? Even if just a range. Thanks.

Working on that right now. Will let you guys know as soon as we have a price point set.

Have you tried to balance these yet.... The more bolts you have the more variables in balancing. HMMV's don't balance wheels, 8 bolt, 24bolt they all run bias tires in the sand. Go for a run down the interstate with these wheels and then let me know how 24's are needed on an 80. Word of caution don't use BB's inside these, they will clump and stick to the internal O ring that must be lubed for proper seal.

But that's just my experience, and I use my rig for SAR in central Oregon. I regularly have mine down to 3 to 5 psi in the sand dunes or Cascade Mt's in 3 to 5' off snow on missions. I should also mention I'm above 7K lbs last time across the scale.

Ammo.

These wheels came from the military surplus warehouse with balancing weights already attached so they were balanced during use at some point. After we assembled them we drove on them for several days unbalanced and they were fine on the highway. I had all 4 balanced this morning and they balanced out very well and now ride very smooth with no vibrations.

Load rating on these 24 bolt wheels is 4080lbs per wheel. Max pressure is 50psi per wheel. The tires are load range "D". With 50psi max pressure. Load rating on these tires is 3850lbs per wheel. Even if you have a fully loaded and armored Land Cruiser I doubt you'll exceed even half the load capability of this wheel/tire combo.

 

[DOOKEY]

Have you tried to balance these yet.... The more bolts you have the more variables in balancing. HMMV's don't balance wheels, 8 bolt, 24bolt they all run bias tires in the sand. Go for a run down the interstate with these wheels and then let me know how 24's are needed on an 80. Word of caution don't use BB's inside these, they will clump and stick to the internal O ring that must be lubed for proper seal.

Ammo.

You should have an insert between the O-Ring and the balance media.

8 Bolts used to come with bias tires. The 12 bolt and 24 bolt wheels come with radials. You can run any tire you want so long as the insert accounts for it.

 

[DOOKEY]

Load rating on these 24 bolt wheels is 4080lbs per wheel. Max pressure is 50psi per wheel. The tires are load range "D". With 50psi max pressure. Load rating on these tires is 3850lbs per wheel. Even if you have a fully loaded and armored Land Cruiser I doubt you'll exceed even half the load capability of this wheel/tire combo.

You are correct. The even spaced wheels are 4080lb per wheel. The odd spaced wheels are 4540lb per wheel.

 

[FrankTorres]

i now need to re-gear asap ...

 

[BruntForce77]

So are these spacers going to be different than the ones already on the market, that the Chevy guys like to use? I'm just trying to figure out why you have decided to make you own? Thanks!

Btw I ask because I was looking at a set of these to run after I swap a 60 in front. I'd be keeping the stock rear for a while.

 

[DudeAbides]

He said they're made hub-centric, which are a big plus.
I'm running plain steelies with my military baja's, but may have to reconsider.

 

[NKP Garage]

So are these spacers going to be different than the ones already on the market, that the Chevy guys like to use? I'm just trying to figure out why you have decided to make you own? Thanks!

Btw I ask because I was looking at a set of these to run after I swap a 60 in front. I'd be keeping the stock rear for a while.

There are none on the market that fit the Land Cruiser. These will be the first.

 

[cody c]

So are these spacers going to be different than the ones already on the market, that the Chevy guys like to use? I'm just trying to figure out why you have decided to make you own? Thanks!

Btw I ask because I was looking at a set of these to run after I swap a 60 in front. I'd be keeping the stock rear for a while.

Chevy 6 bolt or 8 bolt?

 

[jkilcullen]

Oh boy this could change my entire game plan. Anybody been foolish enough to do what I'm considering now and running a heavy 37 setup on factory gears? Obviously would be a temporary situation but probably won't be doing a re-gear until something inside one of the factory locked diffs gives me a reason to open em up. If someone has could they elaborate a bit on how it handled relatively flat highway driving and offroad in low. I have driven and wheeled plenty vehicles that were in need of a re-gear but never an 80. Obviously it will be slow as all hell and unable to pass a tractor on a country road while getting 6mpg but I did say temporary. BTW this is not a required daily but i do like driving it around town (have a company truck).

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[scottryana]

JK,

Baktash is on stock gears.

 

[DudeAbides]

Factory gears and 37s are actually quite nice on road, at least if you have the power button to change shift points.

 

[jkilcullen]

Isn't he putting down a couple more ponies than stock?

 

[jkilcullen]

Dude, thanks for chiming in I do in fact have the power button in my LX. How about offroad in Low in rocky areas and loose hill climbs like.... Badlands rock quarry. I see your fairly local to there and assuming you have been.