BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 VS Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T VS Baja Legend | Detailed Comparison 100 LC (1 Viewer)

[Les Summer]

Currently I'm running some Toyo Open Country non-all terrain tires on my 2000 Land Cruiser, which need replacing. I really would love to buy some BF Goodrich T/A KO2's, but they might be a little too rich for my blood. I went ahead and did the research on the tires I'm currently considering, Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T's. I hope someone will appreciate the research I've gathered and compiled below. I would REALLY love to get a hold of some Mickey Thompson's, but they do not run in the exact stock tire size for my truck, which most of you know is 275/70R16. I hate to deviate from the stock tire size, but I REALLY like the look of the Mickey's, and the pricing vs the KO2's. I've also listed the specs of the Toyo's I'm currently running on my LC, for giggles. From research, it sounds like the Mickey's do really well in the rain, which it does a lot of where I live.

I've considered that deviating from stock tire size may come with its consequences. I ask the forum to view the write up below, and consider it as though these were the options you were looking at for your own LC. What would you pick? As you can see from the specs below, deviation from the stock tire size would appear to be somewhat minimal. Do any of these particular options hurt my LC?

1. The 275/70R16 BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 has a diameter of 31.1", a width of 11", mounts on a 16" rim and has 667 revolutions per mile. It weighs 50.7 lbs, has a max load of 3000/2755 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 65 psi, a tread depth of 15/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-8.5”. $320.00

2. The 265/70R16 112T SL BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 30.8", a width of 10.5", mounts on a 16" rim and has 675 revolutions per mile. It weighs 42 lbs, has a max load of 2469 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 44 psi, a tread depth of 19/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $234.00

3. The 265/75R16 123/120Q E BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 32", a width of 10.7", mounts on a 16" rim and has 649 revolutions per mile. It weighs 58 lbs, has a max load of 3415/3085 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 80 psi, a tread depth of 18.5/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $278.00

4. The 265/75R16 116T SL BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 31.7”, a width of 10.6”, mounts on a 16” rim and has 656 revolutions per mile. It weights 42 lbs, has a max load of 2756 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 44 psi, a tread depth of 16/32” and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $242.00

5. The 275/70R16 Toyo Open Country H/T has a diameter of 31.1", a width of 10.8", mounts on a 16" rim and has 667 revolutions per mile. It weighs 41 lbs, has a max load of 2601 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 35 psi, a tread depth of 13.2/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $165.00 STOCK WITH GOOD GAS MILEAGE

6. The 265/75R16 Mickey Thompson Baja Legend EXP has a diameter of 31.9", a width of 10.1", mounts on a 16" rim and has 652 revolutions per mile. It weighs 50 lbs, has a max load of 3415/3085 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 80 psi, a tread depth of 18.5/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9". $254

 

[4Beast]

I had KO2s on my truck in 275 70r18 for 50k miles or so. They are solid compromise tires, very quiet for an AT, passable in rain snow etc on road and OK off road. They did great aired down (E rated) off road and in sand etc. They really have limits off road and are just not aggressive enough to tackle slicker terrain, mud etc, but you get what you get and don't get upset.
I switched to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss in 295/70/18 and am happy with my decision. Their road performance is good in heavy rain, and they aren't too loud (I'd never know anyway, with my headers) and they are substantially better off road. I suspect that there will be much less treadlife (even with over 50k miles the BFGs has 11/32s remaining) and they are heavy (obviously sizing up affects this, but apples to apples too) but I'm fine with that compromise.
Of note, I do think the KO2s run small and the Mickeys run larger for their sizes. I've literally never run a stock sized tire on any of the cars or trucks I've had, but would definitely consider going up sized. The stock size is an economic and fuel economy choice by Toyota, not what actually performs best.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

This really is key... not all tires perform well everywhere. KO2's are killer in the southwest, sharp rocks and lots of dry. I have had great luck with them, multiple sets on multiple vehicles.

They really have limits off road and are just not aggressive enough to tackle slicker terrain, mud etc, but you get what you get and don't get upset.

 

[Mike NXP]

The tire comparison forums will never end huh?

Every single person will have a different opinions on tires.......Every opinion is based on so many variables like driving style, suspension, what they are used to, how often they rotate, vehicle payload, bla bla bla


All of your choices are solid name brand tires and they will all perform fine. Tire specifications are listed. You know what kind of tred and tredwear to expect, speed ratings, load ratings, etc. Just compare specs and get the tire that is right for your driving habits.


KO2s suck in hard pack snow, but so will every other hard compound all terrain tire, that shouldn't be a surprise. You want good snow performance, get studded snow tires. You want good off road performance, get good off road tires. There isn't a once size fits all.

 

[MountaineerLC]

The KO2 catches a lot of hate these days, but I've been very impressed with my set. They're preformed well in every condition I've used them in here in WV. Their shortcoming is mud, but they're not a mud tire and the same can be said for every A/T tire. I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.

Size wise, don't got smaller than stock, IMO. These trucks have huge wheel wells that are well suited for big tires, but make others look like go cart wheels. My recommendation is a 265/75/16. It's a ubiquitous side available everywhere, is slightly bigger than stock, looks good without the performance penalties of a 285/75. (33")

Although I must say a 33" tires is just about perfect for a stock or lightly - moderately modified 100, IMO.

 

[Les Summer]

The KO2 catches a lot of hate these days, but I've been very impressed with my set. They're preformed well in every condition I've used them in here in WV. Their shortcoming is mud, but they're not a mud tire and the same can be said for every A/T tire. I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.

Size wise, don't got smaller than stock, IMO. These trucks have huge wheel wells that are well suited for big tires, but make others look like go cart wheels. My recommendation is a 265/75/16. It's a ubiquitous side available everywhere, is slightly bigger than stock, looks good without the performance penalties of a 285/75. (33")

Although I must say a 33" tires is just about perfect for a stock or lightly - moderately modified 100, IMO.

I've decided I'm going with the Mickey Thompson's 265/75R16 116T. These are the 4th option in the list I made in my first post of this thread. I have the advantage of an upcoming Labor Day sale and I can't pass it up. I'm sold on the asymmetrical design combined with all 4 tires costing under a thousand dollars. I'm interested in the specs on these specific tires for the MPG benefits, without losing the A/T tire benefits like the nice aggressive look, beefy side lugs, and capability all wrapped up into one package. Most importantly I know what I need from the tires, and I'm just looking for a good tire for in the rain, affordable, and can do some light off roading from time to time. These are perfect for me and still made in the USA.

 

[4Beast]

I've decided I'm going with the Mickey Thompson's 265/75R16 116T. These are the 4th option in the list I made in my first post of this thread. I have the advantage of an upcoming Labor Day sale and I can't pass it up. I'm sold on the asymmetrical design combined with all 4 tires costing under a thousand dollars. I'm interested in the specs on these specific tires for the MPG benefits, without losing the A/T tire benefits like the nice aggressive look, beefy side lugs, and capability all wrapped up into one package. Most importantly I know what I need from the tires, and I'm just looking for a good tire for in the rain, affordable, and can do some light off roading from time to time. These are perfect for me and still made in the USA.

I will say that like TVs, people seldom regret going bigger on tires, but often do going smaller...

 

[Les Summer]

I'm now reconsidering going with an option #6 I just added... this is difficult. I gain weight, lose width, increase diameter, and increase ply rating with the Baja Legends, which also cost a little more. I'm thinking they may be more quiet though, I've got to do some more research..

 

[medtro]

1. The 275/70R16 BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 has a diameter of 31.1", a width of 11", mounts on a 16" rim and has 667 revolutions per mile. It weighs 50.7 lbs, has a max load of 3000/2755 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 65 psi, a tread depth of 15/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-8.5”. $320.00

2. The 265/70R16 112T SL BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 30.8", a width of 10.5", mounts on a 16" rim and has 675 revolutions per mile. It weighs 42 lbs, has a max load of 2469 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 44 psi, a tread depth of 19/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $234.00

3. The 265/75R16 123/120Q E BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 32", a width of 10.7", mounts on a 16" rim and has 649 revolutions per mile. It weighs 58 lbs, has a max load of 3415/3085 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 80 psi, a tread depth of 18.5/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $278.00

4. The 265/75R16 116T SL BSW Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T has a diameter of 31.7”, a width of 10.6”, mounts on a 16” rim and has 656 revolutions per mile. It weights 42 lbs, has a max load of 2756 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 44 psi, a tread depth of 16/32” and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $242.00

5. The 275/70R16 Toyo Open Country H/T has a diameter of 31.1", a width of 10.8", mounts on a 16" rim and has 667 revolutions per mile. It weighs 41 lbs, has a max load of 2601 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 35 psi, a tread depth of 13.2/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9”. $165.00 STOCK WITH GOOD GAS MILEAGE

6. The 265/75R16 Mickey Thompson Baja Legend EXP has a diameter of 31.9", a width of 10.1", mounts on a 16" rim and has 652 revolutions per mile. It weighs 50 lbs, has a max load of 3415/3085 lbs, a maximum air pressure of 80 psi, a tread depth of 18.5/32" and should be used on a rim width of 7-9". $254

I vote for a tabulated research results.

 

[Les Summer]

So option 6 is not going to be 3 peak snow rated, but consensus is it's a quieter tire that will handle better on the road, and being hybrid can still do well everywhere else. I think I'm going with these legends. Here is an amazing video review of the tires I will be getting. I promise I will post phots tomorrow night after I have them installed. Maybe even a test drive review on YouTube.

 

[Les Summer]

I ended up going with the Mickey A/T Baja Boss. I’ll post how my test went drive went later. Drop dead gorgeous. #4 on my list

 

[LandyOverLand]

Everything I've heard about the Baja Boss so far has been positive, I'm sure you'll be happy with them

 

[Les Summer]

Everything I've heard about the Baja Boss so far has been positive, I'm sure you'll be happy with them

I took to the door jamb and did some reading; PSI 32 front and 27 rear per the factory recommendation. I then called Mickey Thompson tech. support to ask what should I air the tires to, and they said same, although on the site the max PSI is 44 (44 PSI is mandatorily stated as such for safety standards with full load capacity in mind, but not realistic for every day use). I settled with 35 PSI all the way around. I don't do any towing, and I rarely load down the back of my truck. Overall, the ride quality is way softer vs the old Toyo street tires which were left with about 1/4 tread life left on them. I've gotten up to speeds of 75mph on the highway, and I can't even detect any noise coming from them. You might say I hear an ever so slight sound of the tire, but by no means would I call it a disturbing or intrusive noise. The steering feels pretty happy too. I'm glad I went with these. I got the Labor Day tax discount honored 4 days after the sale, and spent a grand total of $1077.00, which included install. I feel I did good.
I may be noticing an ever so slight increase in RPM's needed to increase speed, but it's not annoyingly noticeable. Me even noticing it will likely go away after a few drives if it hasn't already.

 

[Les Summer]

Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T 265/75R16 116T SL BSW BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 275/70R16

Weight

Rev. Per Mi.

Diameter

Tread Depth

Price

Max Load

Width

Weight

Rev. Per Mi.

Diameter

Tread Depth

Price

Max Load

Width

42 lbs.

656

31.7'

16/32

$242

2,756 lbs.

10.6'

50.7 lbs.

667

31.1'

15/32

$320

3,000 lbs.

11'

As anyone reading this thread knows, I've gone ahead and chosen the M/T Baja Boss A/T tires. I was very close to getting the M/T EXP's and I also was very close to getting the BF Goodrich. Very close. What sold me is the asymmetrical design of the M/T, the ease of being able to rotate the tire to anywhere on the truck I please, the PRICE, the rain performance reviews, light weight, good looks, plus she's made in the old US of A. I think the EXP's would have been a great choice too, but I missed the deadline for getting them on the Labor Day sale. I might of bought them even though they are not 3 peak snow rated. Hearing once or twice about the BFG's not being good in the rain was the deal breaker for me.

 

[Couvi]

Tires look great, I’m considering these for my 2004 in 275/65/18. How’s road noise so far?

 

[Kabanstva]

Do any of these come in a 286/75/16 C-Rated?

 

[MountaineerLC]

Do any of these come in a 286/75/16 C-Rated?

I don't think anyone makes a 285/75/16 C-rated tire unfortunately.

 

[Les Summer]

Tires look great, I’m considering these for my 2004 in 275/65/18. How’s road noise so far?

It’s unobtrusive, if at all. The tires are very comfortable.

 

[Les Summer]

Just did my first drive home in torrential rain downpour, and the tires were phenomenal. I never once felt like I was not in contact with the road. Mickey Thompson A/T all the way. Glad I didn't chase after BF Goodrich just to have the name and pay more.

 

[Les Summer]

PSI according to manufac. should be run per what it says in the door jamb. 32 in the rear and 29 up front. Anyone have input to share on the matter? 265/75r16 Mickey Thompson Baja boss. I’ve been experimenting….