Axe & Shovel Mount Questions
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Take a look at some pics of old military cj's the scabbards were welded on sheet metal "holsters" for the edge ends and solid heavy snap straps to secure them in place if you don't mind the look[I don't] it works great and is solid lock them in place with gun locks,It may not be for showy vehicles but they probably won't need them.
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Check out eBay. If you type "axe and shovel" a few different styles of axe and shovel holders show up. There is one design on there that a guy produces that looks good. I'll probably go that route when it's time to....
You will have to measure the circumfierence of the bar and the shovel.
same mount as mep, only on the fender
One thing to keep in mind is if there are any regulations that specify tool dimensions.
During fire season here, if a declaration is made that a certain area is under fire protection rules, you have to have five gallons of water, a full size ax, and a full size shovel. There are actually specs for this:
"Possessing the following fire equipment while traveling in timber, brush or grass areas may be required: one axe at least 26 inches in length, with a head weighing at least 2 pounds; one shovel at least 26 inches in length, with a blade at least 8 inches wide; and one gallon of water or one fully charged and an operational 2.5 lb or larger fire extinguisher."
(From Oregon Department of Forestry Protection from Fire )
Treat "...may be required..." as absolutely required during fire season. Also, there are minimum specs for using a chainsaw in the woods (see link).
The Oregon Dept. of Forestry outlines their minimum requirements for the shovel and axe.
The USFS and BLM have been specifying 5 gallons of water dedicated to fire fighting, so that supersedes the 1 gallon spec by ODF.
The minimum universal size of fire extinguisher appears to be 2.5 lbs.
Note that the feds want water AND a fire extinguisher, while the state specifies one or the other.
Some localities specify carrying of a water bucket as well. There has not been a spec whether it has to be rigid or collapsible, so the reproduction military cloth buckets work well as space savers.
And yes, the county deputies and Forest Service, BLM et al can and will check and issue tickets for this.
There can be local rural fire district rules and open fire rules for campfires in the non-fire season.
To recap for Oregon:
(1) Ax, two pound head, 26" handle minimum.
(2) Shovel, 8" wide blade, 26" handle minimum.
(3) 2.5 lb fire extinguisher.
(4) 5 gallons water dedicated to fire fighting.
(5) Bucket
So you can see, a folding shovel and hatchet are nice to have on board, but there are regulations that specify full size versions that can go into effect anytime in the summer and fall. My advice is to start checking your state requirements. I'll bet many in the west are not far off from the above list.
During fire season here, if a declaration is made that a certain area is under fire protection rules, you have to have five gallons of water, a full size ax, and a full size shovel. There are actually specs for this:
"Possessing the following fire equipment while traveling in timber, brush or grass areas may be required: one axe at least 26 inches in length, with a head weighing at least 2 pounds; one shovel at least 26 inches in length, with a blade at least 8 inches wide; and one gallon of water or one fully charged and an operational 2.5 lb or larger fire extinguisher."
(From Oregon Department of Forestry Protection from Fire )
Treat "...may be required..." as absolutely required during fire season. Also, there are minimum specs for using a chainsaw in the woods (see link).
The Oregon Dept. of Forestry outlines their minimum requirements for the shovel and axe.
The USFS and BLM have been specifying 5 gallons of water dedicated to fire fighting, so that supersedes the 1 gallon spec by ODF.
The minimum universal size of fire extinguisher appears to be 2.5 lbs.
Note that the feds want water AND a fire extinguisher, while the state specifies one or the other.
Some localities specify carrying of a water bucket as well. There has not been a spec whether it has to be rigid or collapsible, so the reproduction military cloth buckets work well as space savers.
And yes, the county deputies and Forest Service, BLM et al can and will check and issue tickets for this.
There can be local rural fire district rules and open fire rules for campfires in the non-fire season.
To recap for Oregon:
(1) Ax, two pound head, 26" handle minimum.
(2) Shovel, 8" wide blade, 26" handle minimum.
(3) 2.5 lb fire extinguisher.
(4) 5 gallons water dedicated to fire fighting.
(5) Bucket
So you can see, a folding shovel and hatchet are nice to have on board, but there are regulations that specify full size versions that can go into effect anytime in the summer and fall. My advice is to start checking your state requirements. I'll bet many in the west are not far off from the above list.
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Sheez I had no idea they had regs for that. Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check out MT's regs, if there are any.
Oh and here is my setup. I finished it Saturday.
did you drill the glass for mount the axe????
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did you drill the glass for mount the axe????
it does look like its hanging in mid air
It is done with magnets , like those floating globes......
Double take for me too.did you drill the glass for mount the axe????
Nice. My rear bars aren't straight across, but turn down, so they won't work to mount tools. They'd beat passengers in the back of the head anyway.
My Hi Lift is mounted on the front bumper. Yeah, it's vulnerable there, and will have to be moved once I install a winch. Will probably mount it on the running board next to the cowl on one side or the other.
Pioneer Tool Rack and Tools
I bought a military pioneer tool rack like one of my friends has at the above link. Decided I didn't want to put holes in the FJ40 for it, and if it gets mounted on the outside of the roll cage, the tools will be trapped by the window when the top is on. Pity, because that's an ideal location with the top off. Might mount it on the jeep trailer instead, but that doesn't solve the issue for mounting tools on the FJ40.
