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I remember that HZ40; was that the olive drab green one that went to San Diego (if my memory serves me right)? Or was it the red one with the Gozzard fiberglass body and the marine storage bins in the floor? Whichever car it was, did that owner mention his/her reactions on Mud? If so, i'd appreciate it if you mentioned the thread name/location; i did spend at least two hours once looking for that in the 40-Series forum.
AlbertoSD, and Cruiserdan, love your replies. I will look those up immediately. Peterb, i'll have a peek at those two before i consider the 60-Series windshield juice box. In fact i should have a look at my 61, as its soon-to-be-new-owner will not need that reservoir.
I am in Calgary, by the way. Well, sometimes at any rate: i tend not to stay in the same place for too long.
 
I remember that HZ40; was that the olive drab green one that went to San Diego (if my memory serves me right)? Or was it the red one with the Gozzard fiberglass body and the marine storage bins in the floor? Whichever car it was, did that owner mention his/her reactions on Mud? If so, i'd appreciate it if you mentioned the thread name/location; i did spend at least two hours once looking for that in the 40-Series forum.
AlbertoSD, and Cruiserdan, love your replies. I will look those up immediately. Peterb, i'll have a peek at those two before i consider the 60-Series windshield juice box. In fact i should have a look at my 61, as its soon-to-be-new-owner will not need that reservoir.
I am in Calgary, by the way. Well, sometimes at any rate: i tend not to stay in the same place for too long.
This is the thread: 1HZ install into a 1978 FJ40

The owner comes in nearer to the end.
 
I thought i had forgotten a few items from the horror list, so i looked up my paperwork. I'll try to keep it brief.
A ground strap was missing; the left front hub's locking mechanism was seized; the seal between the gearbox and transfer case was leaking and needed replacing; the factory coolant gauge didn't work (sensor fault, so it was replaced); the power steering unit had varnish coating inside it as well as contaminants; the coolant pump and thermostat had to be replaced; the right front brake caliper leaked; the front fuel tank leaked as there was no gasket for the sending unit; the same fuel tank had another leak due its breather having being mounted below the fuel tank; the front diff was noisy, and it was found to have a lot of loose metal in it: the pinion nut had been overtightened, which damaged the pinion bearing, as well as the seals; the e-brake was loose, so its shoe fell off, and the resulting damaged parts had to be replaced; the PTO leaked as the output seal was installed backwards; the front inner and outer wheel bearings were rusted, the 4 wheel seals were incorrectly installed, and the dust seals and c-clips on the right front axle were missing (which meant that the CV joint was not secured to the axle). I think there'll be just one more installment of this stuff, sorry for the less-than-happy news.
 
I was so looking forward to seeing this troopy in action, with pictures of your travels enjoying it!

Terribly sorry to hear of the issues you're facing.

I do admire your positive outlook though; as you said, what can you do but move on and get cracking with sorting these things out.

But man!
 
It's time for the last of it. This time it's some of Crushers' business practices.
I really appreciated the patience with all the phone calls and questions (going both ways), so as to do the best we could to get what i was after; that goes a hell of a long way. Especially as i was getting something done that i had zero experience of, plus we were quite a distance apart.
Over time, however, i learned a few things. I found out, and not from Crushers, that he permitted someone else to drive my car, admittedly just after he received it and therefore before any work was done to it. All the same, i have some principles (well, i like to think), one being that it is illegal (in my book) to lend something that doesn't belong to you to someone else, without asking the owner of that something; as well, it is downright apathetic to do so if the owner does not know the borrower. That happened, and i wasn't impressed that someone i didn't know drove my car, and less so when i found out from someone who wasn't Crushers.
There were times when i distinctly felt like a guinea pig, as in the experimental-purposes lab rat type. When Crushers received the bias-ply tires, he asked me if he could put them on one of his cars in order to check them out for himself. I understand that curiosity, professional or otherwise, but that is not the reason i got those tires; as well, if i pay the new-product price, i expect a new product. It took Crushers two months to talk me into sending my car to a body shop local to him, which made sense when the body was off (i wanted to get the body in top shape as part of the build); he highly recommended the shop after he saw some of the results of their work. When the body was returned to him and i asked if the body work was good his reply was, 'Nah, i'm not impressed'. This lab rat isn't either, twice over.
Understand that i had to work full-time, as most of us do, and i was away from the build; just to say that i was rather stuck with my car at Crushers' place, and it would've been terribly impractical, not to mention an incredible pain in the neck, to take time off work, and get the car out of there. Fine, that was acceptable. What wasn't was when i once made some mild comment (i forgot what it was by now) to the effect that there was something Crushers did that i wasn't too satisfied about; his response was to say, 'if you don't like what i'm doing, come and get your car' (which was in pieces at the time). Understandable, certainly, but it really felt like the fact that it was nearly impossible for me to do so was taken advantage of. Too bad for me, i suppose.
One thing that really had me feeling murderous was the time i sent Crushers a cheque, in response to a request for one, then finding it was negotiated after about ten days, which is normal and well and good. However i expect some feedback on progress after a cheque is negotiated, but i got nothing for nearly four weeks, not a damn word, and then only after my asking. That to me is a very poor business practice: you don't take payment then ignore your client. I found out that Crushers had gone on holiday out of the country, and i cannot tell you how much of a rage i was in. After that initial response to my request for feedback that i just mentioned, i didn't hear back from Crushers for nearly another four weeks. So, cash a large cheque, and ignore the client for seven weeks; not impressed. Bj70_guy, my language was a bit more colourful than your comment above.
I'd trust Crushers for design and fabrication of metal stuff (the storage bins, overhead consoles, bumpers, protection bars and plates, etc); i would not recommend Crushers for anything electrical or mechanical on a car, and i would not trust him to carry out a full range of tests and shake-down runs, even if asked to do so. I would also, if you are contemplating it, keep the work you want done to your vehicle by Crushers to a minimum: while i did burn myself out after three years of non-stop work, and so stopped sending money to Crushers in about March of 2011, we can exclude that from the overall time span. Doing so has my car in his hands for a solid two years, possibly a little more; the point is, it just took too damn long. Granted Crushers did things he had never done before, had to learn as he went, and it was a huge build. But it was still too damn long. As well, with all the time it took, i expected a car in ideal condition, not one with all the issues i've mentioned. There are significant advantages to working for oneself; however, one of the times i visited Crushers, he said to me, unprompted, that, 'I only put in maybe thirty hours a week'. In quotation marks are his exact words. That's unheard of in my world, almost as if it's a working holiday.
 
It is nice to blow some steam, but i'm glad i'm done doing so.
Yes i am very much looking forward to doing some long-distance travels, but i've a ways to go yet. Namely, travelling isn't cheap, so i've to build up my funds. As well, it is only a little bit at a time that i can carry out the work my car yet needs, which isn't always easy when you're homeless (voluntarily in my case); i refuse to do anything to the interior before the fuel tank issues are sorted, as well as whatever other stuff i must have in solid and reliable condition (i'm not sure the air compressor is right, as an example). So, thus far the interior is just an empty box. It'll be a while before some serious mileage happens, but i want the car right first. I can throw in the odd picture. The first one is at one end of Lake Newell in Alberta; the second, i hope nobody minds. I'll never be able to switch allegiances to Rovers (or G-Wagens, or any others), but i can still appreciate them. In the first you can sort of see the fenders extensions which, if anyone remembers, are made of used conveyor belts; a lot of that stuff was given to me by a factory that made animal feeds. Cheap and cheerful, i say. Even with them on, the rear windows of the troopy are crap magnets: as soon as there is any loose stuff on your road/track/whatever, you'll find it on the rear windows.
I am aiming to get some minor things done in the next month or two, for example the trailer electrical socket needs to have a hole punched in the rear bumper for its installation, (a location that will protect it); i ordered new floor mats for the front as the old one is torn and perforated. There is a large dent in the oil pan, as if the engine sat for a while or was dropped, and i don't like that so i'll replace that soon. i could go on and bore you. I'll try to remember to take pictures, i am not used to recording everything i do.

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Hello Cruiserdan,
Thank you very much, i got the part number. I may yet be stubborn, as i would like a 4 litre capacity reservoir (about a US gallon). Funny, i had been on the site and had put in a reply or two, and had entirely forgotten.
 
Such a shame things ended that way. I enjoyed watching your build and even stole some ideas for my 55. Good to hear you're working through the problems and will still get to use it to the fullest.
 
@61Mk+ this whole thread is very canadian of you, in a good way. Cool, collected and fact based. I am inspired by your ability to remain calm.
All i can offer is condolences and that im empathetic, as I too in the past had to pay twice for work done on a previous vehicle. I did not handle that as well as you have.

That being said. Id like to hear your plans whether on this thread or a new one, of the trip that you are putting together.
 
Hello Siflersmom,
You're too kind! Trust me, it took me quite a while to be subjective and calm, and i am not even certain i am entirely fair yet.
Whatever, what's done is done; i'll just go back to work and get more funds, and i am not giving up on my goals. You should have a look at Damienperu's thread, i'd have pulled my hair out by now. The kind words do not go unappreciated.
So, yeah, i've a long way to go yet, but the troopy has been my daily driver since early March, and every drive makes me happy. Christ, just looking at it does that (as well as listening to it). It will be quite a while yet before i get going on my planned travels as i am a choosy bastard, and i want things right before i shove off. I'd rather go when the time is right for me and my car, as opposed to being stuck to a schedule. It'll come good, i can assure you, come what may.
For a laugh, i do get flack from some when i call my troopy a car. However i have all the driver's licences i can get, and experience with them: i've driven tractor-trailers around a lot of Canada and the US, and i've had the boom truck ticket (picker truck if you prefer) for nearly ten years now. A 485hp, tri-drive beast with a 32ton crane on board is a truck to me, as is a 75' combo (i was just over 100,000lbs. gross (a load of beer) through the Rockies once). To me, by comparison, the 61 and the troopy are cars.
 
Hello,

Sorry to hear about your ordeal.

I hope you will iron out all the issues with your Troopie and enjoy it.








Juan
 
Beno: you're not wrong.
 
I drive a 40,000lb(+-) engine and I'll call my cruiser a car at times as well.....I know it's a sin....although on a long trip the cruiser begins to feel very much like a "truck"!

Even after saying that, our engine is like driving a car compared to our tanker and quint....those feel like "trucks" when you drive them.

Edit...my assumption of a truck. Something around 100k in weight is a beast!
 
The second, I hope nobody minds. I'll never be able to switch allegiances to Rovers (or G-Wagens, or any others), but I can still appreciate them.

Hi @61Mk+,

Nothing wrong with letting the Cruisers mingle with the other brands (but only from time to time, for a short period of time haha ;)).

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I am, too, very very sorry about your bad experience with this build. I completely agree with @Siflersmom 's statement that you have written your thoughts/opinions in a very cool, collected, and fact based way. Not sure I could have done the same. I am also inspired by your ability to remain calm.

Finally, I am happy that you are working through the problems and will still get to use and enjoy the Troopy the way you planned to.

Sincerely,

-Alberto
 
Hello Fellow Cruiser Freaks,
My troopie's fuel tank switch was working backwards (so to speak), such that when switched to one tank, the fuel gauge would read that tank, but the fuel was drawn from the other. Quite recently, the rear tank's fuel was not being picked up, with approximately 2/3 fuel left.
We opened a small access plate, the one with the sensor and float. Inside was more of the sort of gak in the tank that i described a few messages ago, as well as water. The water is my doing from when i flushed the tank out two dozen times a few months ago (i didn't have much choice then). We replaced the two fuel filters (there is one for each tank, located between the two reservoirs, with the auxiliary fuel pump next to them, all well upstream of the main fuel filter); a bit of a shame to remove the two existing filters as they were nice all-metal ones. They both contained some of the fine metallic particles such as found in the rear tank. The replacements were the type that are clear so one can see inside. We also switched the lines, such that now there is a match of the fuel tank switch, gauge, and tank used. Damn nice to have that correct. I apologize for no pictures, my hands were coated in dirt, diesel, grease, oil, which i didn't think my camera would like. I did get two pictures of the inside of the fuel tank, not very good ones as the flash couldn't be directed where i wanted it to light things up, but it provides some idea. In one of those pics, you can just see dark crap in the tank, the edge of a large gathering of it. I used a magnet on a wand to get as much of that out as i could. Apologies again, sometimes i am unable to get pictures on this forum, and i don't yet know why.
We also found that the fuel lines, of necessity, went from flexible to solid quite a lot; unfortunately two of the flexible lines were short, and a few of the hose clamps were not as tight as they could have been; it is a definite possibility that air, water, and dirt got in that way. The fine-mesh filter screen of the rear tank's pick-up was partly clogged up, no surprise there.
All that is only a start; i will eventually have to remove the tanks and get them right once and for all.
I like draining the coolant at the start of each winter, getting the cooling system power-flushed, and filling with new coolant, more important for this engine as it came with its coolant in shocking condition. More rust came out this time, no surprise, i figure there'll be bits of that coming out for a while yet.

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Okay, so the pictures did get through, however i had no indication of that, apart from a 'failed to upload' notice.
 
I noticed a few months ago that one end of my oil pan had a decent sized dent in it; at the time i assumed the engine had been sitting, with weight on the bent area, for a while. With the car on the hoist while playing with the fuel system, i noticed that the dent was significantly larger than previously, and some areas were rust-free; in other words they were fresh. I had already ordered and received a replacement pan about four or five weeks ago.
I found out a week ago that 70's have different oil pans for 1HZ's (three if i remember correctly), depending on the model year and/or axles. That, by the way, was thanks to trolling the Mud forums, not only a happy expenditure of time but damn useful too: a big thank you to all contributors. I can only hope my posts will be of use to others.
My troopie is a '92, but i wanted the simpler mechanical axles, so they were replaced with pre-1990 units. The clearance between the top of the Slee Offroad diff-lock protector plate to the bottom of the oil pan is about four inches; not enough, and it hits the pan (as far as the diff-lock is concerned, that plate is doing its job). I suppose the bump stops could be replaced with deeper ones, but i do not consider that a solution. I did take pictures, but i can only upload one now. No point in replacing the oil pan then, but i am taking it really gently on bumps now.
My mechanic has a simple solution: take measurements, cut a piece of the oil pan off, and weld on a section of steel such that there will be clearance as well as articulation. I would prefer the proper oil pan, but at this point i am rather worried about an oil leak, as well i cannot know how long i have before that happens. I may have a new oil pan for sale on Mud soon as i cannot return it to the seller; it's still in the plastic, although that has a cut in it (i don't know why).

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Hello AlbertoSD,
I read through your thread a long time ago; i'm not anywhere near as keen on short-wheelbase 4x4's as i am about troopies, but your number is the sort that has changed my mind: a bloody lovely car you have there, sir.
 
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