Builds A pig out of hand is worth 2...

[Napster]

Check out my Honey Boo Boo thread for more info

Just checked it. I like where you are going and I love your organized pics. Fwiw I love the stock rims and hub caps.

I have been thinking about a 4spd, disc brakes, power steering and ac all day. Going to pick up my 60 this weekend and I can't wait!

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[htownfire]

That's a solid rig I love it

 

[Napster]

Went up to Arcata and picked up the parts rig. I can't believe how smooth it all went! It has everything I wanted (disc brakes, 4spd, power steering and ac!)

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[Delancy]

What's to become of the assumed 2F in the 60?

 

[Napster]

What's to become of the assumed 2F in the 60?

I need to try to start it and see if it is worth moving over. Are you looking for one or just wondering why I did not mention it?

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[Delancy]

Only needing covers and a few other items that a running motor or rebuild-able couldn't do without.

 

[Napster]

Only needing covers and a few other items that a running motor or rebuild-able couldn't do without.

Gotcha. I'll look into it tomorrow, though it may take a few days to have anything definitive. If it turns out to be scrap, I'll let you know.

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[Napster]

Started the 2F out of the 60 and it runs surprisingly well. Talked to George at valley hybrids and it looks like I am on track. George is very helpful and giving with his knowledge. Looks like the pig is getting engine trans and transfer case out of the 60 along with disc brakes up front and the third members from the 60 if they are 3.70's and the pig's are the 4:10's. Only thing I need to work out now is a cross member and the e-brake both of which have plenty of info on the forum.

Question: anyone know if I can use the 3spd shifter on the fj60 4spd? I want to retain the older look.

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[scrapdaddy]

Napster,

By, 3 speed shifter, do you mean a column shift. You would need to figure out the linkages, big job. I'm not sure if it's even possible.

E. Brake is going to be hard, unless you get one of those disc brake kit, that mounts to your transfer case. A few of the guys have them, they can enlighten us.

Is your mind made up on not useing the 60's whole axles. It would be some added work, but save alot of other work.

 

[Delancy]

The TSM disc brake seems the better alternative to the OE, since I've considerable time involved trying to find the output shaft and few other parts needed for the drum Georg has, to work.

TSM makes a disc "kit" which appears a good alternative, but if I were you, since you're the 60 axles, I'd swap them in and be done with it.

 

[MiniPigg]

Napster,

By, 3 speed shifter, do you mean a column shift. You would need to figure out the linkages, big job. I'm not sure if it's even possible.

E. Brake is going to be hard, unless you get one of those disc brake kit, that mounts to your transfer case. A few of the guys have them, they can enlighten us.

Is your mind made up on not useing the 60's whole axles. It would be some added work, but save alot of other work.

He actually just means mating the transfer case that came from the FJ55 to the FJ60 4speed transmission. Some times folks misunderstand and think something else.

You could make your own disc e-brake off the t-case.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Minipigg,

What threw me off, is the statement he wants to keep the older look of the 3speed shifter.

 

[Napster]

Napster, By, 3 speed shifter, do you mean a column shift. You would need to figure out the linkages, big job. I'm not sure if it's even possible. E. Brake is going to be hard, unless you get one of those disc brake kit, that mounts to your transfer case. A few of the guys have them, they can enlighten us. Is your mind made up on not useing the 60's whole axles. It would be some added work, but save alot of other work.

No I just want the older stick on the floor. It has a much simpler look than the tapered stick in the 60.

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[Napster]

Napster, By, 3 speed shifter, do you mean a column shift. You would need to figure out the linkages, big job. I'm not sure if it's even possible. E. Brake is going to be hard, unless you get one of those disc brake kit, that mounts to your transfer case. A few of the guys have them, they can enlighten us. Is your mind made up on not useing the 60's whole axles. It would be some added work, but save alot of other work.

Pretty sure I want to keep the 55 housings as I am not going to lift and worry about rubbing with the wider housings out of the 60. I like the idea of making a disc ebrake off the back of the transfer case...

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[Napster]

I have been searching the forum but can't find any info for stock height. Does anyone run 60 axles under a pig with no lift? Any rubbing clearance issues?

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

the biggest hurdle to running 60 series axles under a 40 or 55, is the longer long side of the front pushes the diff over to under the passenger side frame rail. One can either outboard spring mounts on the frame and use stock spring perches on the 60 series front, or notch the passenger side of the diffy housing to mortisse in the spring perch where it would sit under the 40 or 55 frames. I personally think that the updated axles are worth the effort if you're going for function. the rear axle isn't nearly as difficult to put under the pig as it is, jus move spring perches and be done. rear 60 axle has integrated ebrake BONUS. front 60 axle is 3" wider than our pigs fronts and the rear is 3" wider than our rear...What size tire do you want to run? I think the 3.7s are too much drag on anything over 31s...but they will be in better condition most likely that the pigs older 4.11s. I used the factory cross member modded to fit the pig( angle iron notched and welded to frame rails holes drilled to match cross member..) I understand you want the older shifter lever? just cut the new and old and swip swap with the weldernator For future reference, the one piece cases cannot be used on later transmissions short or long as they do not mate and require different input spline count...3 speed is 10 spline, 4 speed antique is 16, and the later H42 and H55s are 19 splines. I wouldn't waste time on the TSM disk...just run a ebrake axle and install the pull...

 

[Napster]

Great info lambcrusher. Thank you.

I have read through a lot of threads and I have just arrived at the point where I realized that my project is going to get way bigger than I intended. It seems like this happens to a lot of us. We start out saying that we will keep it stock and now I'm thinking my entire drivetrain is being remove and the front clip... How much more work to remove the body to derust it and the frame. Interior? Engine rebuilt? I have to rebuild the 60 axles before I put them in. I was not going to modify the 55 frame and now I am thinking of moving shackle hangers outboard and adding power steering...

Where does it stop?! Pretty soon I'll be replating bolts and brackets like the slow71! Need some prospective. As I really can't afford to go hog wild as the expression goes.

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[scrapdaddy]

I know the feeling! Things like power steering and the 60 axles are great improvements and not a ton of money. Plating stuff, not so much.

Rust is a big issue. Old saying, pay me now or pay me later. Would it be wise to do your body repairs when you have it taken apart, sure it would, but that means alot of time and money being spent all at once. If you Wait until you get it running and go back when money is built up, then you'll spent more down time taking it all apart again.

I think it would be wise to do what you can to the body pan ( belly side ) when you have the axles off. You'll spent more sweat than money, just cleaning and repainting stuff. Then get it running and work on any body panels that need it as life allows.

You can go along way by just doing the manual stuff, scraping and painting rust preventatives and not spend a ton of money.

Just make sure everybody is having fun and it's not a thorn in her side.

Best of luck!

 

[Napster]

Thanks scrapdaddy. Got a little overwhelmed but I think you have it right. I'll be doing the hard to remove stuff right and putting everything else in with the intention of doing it right later.

I was thinking of tearing the 2F down from the 60 to see if it needs anything and resealing it. New clutch. Rebuild trans and transfer case. Axels will go in as they are and I will leave the frame and body as is (with the exception of the front clip and firewall). I need to get the radiator recored and will probably rebuild the brakes. Anything I am forgetting or you think I should do?

simple is usually right... 1973 fj55

 

[scrapdaddy]

I'm sure the 2f guys will have better advise, but do the oil plug fix and don't forget the power steering box. You will have to reinforce the frame at the same time, where the box bolts up.