'93 80 vs. '97 LX

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

IIRC that code was 'pending' a while ago, suspected the S/C harness, nothing, cleared it, was fine when I drove it... :-)
 
And more electrical shenanigans on the LX.
That truck needs some talking to; such stuff is unwelcome, and may lead to an abbreviated stay in the fleet :-)
 
ChaseTruck said:
And more electrical shenanigans on the LX.
That truck needs some talking to; such stuff is unwelcome, and may lead to an abbreviated stay in the fleet :)
Click to expand...

ChaseTruck said:
Well then. New starter in the LX; thanks to Tools for coaching...
Click to expand...

that truck turns out to be really needy :rolleyes:

had to switch to yet another throttle position sensor :rolleyes:

then, a headlight went out :mad: replaced a blown marker light at the same time

and I won't even go into the drama the LX threw at a gas station when the starter contacts decided to stick :rolleyes: performed even more drama after I managed to drive it home - in the aftermath of which I disconnected the battery for a while to reboot - I guess this shocked the truck into behaving for several weeks

but then more drama, repeated a couple times yesterday :rolleyes:

talk about a high maintenance :princess: :bang:
 
Last edited:
We took the LX up to Flagstaff yesterday, as we wanted to ride the chairlift at the Snow Bowl. The San Francisco Peaks were somewhat in the clouds, though, and it began to rain pretty good when we were at the base. With a thunderstorm nearby, they closed the operation, so we'll try that another time.

We then decided to drive Schnebly Hill Road road down from the Mogollon Rim to Sedona:

JMS_2292.webp


Views along the way...

JMS_2284.webp


JMS_2306.webp


JMS_2299.webp


JMS_2318.webp


We proceeded to some impromptu dirt road driving on the way home - traffic accident on I-17 (listening in on CB channel 19 helped decide what to do...), so detour to Mayer - Turkey Creek - Bumble Bee, and back on the highway downstream of the accident.

Ended up in a deluge in Fountain Hills - I think this is a first, getting rained on twice in one day in the summer in AZ, first at 9500' and then at 1900'... :-). All in all, a pretty neat day.
 
Last edited:
Nice pics Michael. Too bad about not getting up the mountain. The old route from Mayer to Bumblebee makes for a nice break from I17. Glad you enjoyed the day.
 
Good to hear from you. It wasn't the best light for photos - middle of the day, and quite hazy, with moisture in the air coming northwards from the mountains on the other side of the Verde valley - so I shot mostly from within the truck. I'm also learning how to deal with having just a 35mm lens on the camera since my walkabout zoom lens is still in the shop.

I also find I dislike having trees around red rocks - I'm having trouble keeping them from growing into my pictures, sorta like this:
JMS_2294.webp


Somewhat fixed here...
JMS_2297.webp
 
.... and a dashboard christmas tree on the '93 on the way to work today :(

Noticed yesterday when I turned the 2m radio on that system voltage was at 11.9V with the motor idling, revving a bit brought it to 13.2V. For a short while.
Still at 11.9v this morning, and suddenly the voltmeter spikes and the lights come on - great. Made it home, still.

Of course, these days I don't have any time to deal with this... and I'm not feeling it to do an alternator rebuild.

Anyways, I'm now pondering whether to do the Sequoia alternator thing (I have the brackets... but not sure I need this, despite the winch on the truck; I haven't found the time, nor the urge, to go 'wheeling around here in the South), and the dizzy seems to have an oil seep, and I have accumulated the mil-spec battery terminals, and 1ga welding cable (copper), and I still have 1/0ga audio cable left over from the winch install (that's copper-plated aluminum, very thin strands), assorted sizes of cable lugs, and a new hydraulic crimper, and the battery (red Optima, unknown vintage) has been sitting at 12.2V for the last year (despite a functioning alternator putting out 14.3-14.6V) - seems like I might as well take the front left corner all apart... what else would be on the 'while-you're-in-there' list, besides new belts?
 
Last edited:
surfpig said:
Group buy!

:bounce2:
Click to expand...

I hear woody hates group buys... :)

On a cumulative basis, this seems to be (haven't had time to put a voltmeter to the '93 alt, just going by the dash lights...) alternator #3 this year - the K5 already ate 2...

Well, that second one may not count; due to time constraints it was an Oreilly-sourced rebuild - lasted all of 73 miles...
 
Dizzy is going to come out, as well; fix the oil seep. And I'll order the HIR bulbs, since I now can actually access the bulbs on the driver's side.
I also need to redo a few things on my aux fuse block wiring, e.g. combine more incoming wires into harnesses.
 
Is that one of those HF hydraulic crimpers? If so, are you pleased with it? Where are you buying your terminal ends. Are they specific for THAT crimper?

I am in the middle of wiring project for my Puma and a couple of extra circuits. I ran the #4 AWG that I purchased from LCPhil but I still need to terminate the ends.

Sorry for the hijack.
 
Copenhagen1 said:
Is that one of those HF hydraulic crimpers? If so, are you pleased with it? Where are you buying your terminal ends. Are they specific for THAT crimper?

I am in the middle of wiring project for my Puma and a couple of extra circuits. I ran the #4 AWG that I purchased from LCPhil but I still need to terminate the ends.

Sorry for the hijack.
Click to expand...

HF is too far of a drive - the crimper is this one:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHY7SOA/?tag=ihco-20

Cable lugs were also via Amazon, nothing specific for that crimper; I have a collection of leftovers from when I did the winch.
I used this for the winch cables:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006VU5WX8/?tag=ihco-20

And while I've only made one cable end so far, I like the hydraulic crimper much better. The reviews on Amazon raise a lot of confusion because the inserts for the crimper are labeled in square mm -referring to the diameter of the wire(I think...), and not in AWG gauge sizes. Well, it's not that hard to figure out which ones to use, the largest ones did the 1/0 just fine.

My Puma is wired with 6ga (may not be up to Phil's high standards, but hey, it's better than the 20 feet of 10ga landscape wire that several of us used successfully for several years... :hillbilly:) ; I used this crimper: http://www.powerwerx.com/crimping-tools/pp75-sb50-powerpole-crimper.html ; got that together with the Powerpole connectors. Can't remember where I got the lugs, but for the smaller ones I've used copper. I suppose tinned copper would be better with respect to corrosion issues.
 
Last edited:
ChaseTruck said:
.... and a dashboard christmas tree on the '93 on the way to work today :(....
Click to expand...

Back in business. New alternator, and new dizzy O-ring installed. The old O-ring had no more elasticity and simply broke upon trying to get it out of its groove. It was fairly grungy underneath the distributor, so methinks oil has been seeping out of there for a while.

Managed to break the clip on the alternator plug... Thanks to Cdan for posting the part number (90980-11349) in the other thread
 
Last edited:
Decided to look at corrected mileage. Blue: 285 E-rated Michelin street tires, data cover ~7,000 miles, average 11.8mpg; red: 315 D-rated Maxxis MTs, data cover ~5,000 miles, average 10.8mpg. Upward spikes correspond to longer trips, i.e. longer stretches of highway. Errors/deviations from using different pumps are of course included. Overall trend is downwards - seems a tune-up might be in order. Looked at the cap & rotor when I had the distributor out, and there was wear and oxidation.

mileage2.webp
 
I just want to add that I drove a '96 LC yesterday and one big difference is the amount of noise in a '93 is much, much more. I think as the upgrades continued through the years they made the later '95, '96, '97's much quieter. I'm having to line the entire vehicle with sound and heat deadner and am in the process now.

The console area on my '93 gets very hot and on the '96 I drove yesterday I could barely feel the heat coming through.

Is that your experience as well?

Zona
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom