3FE adventure -

[PabloCruise]

Just for a difference of opinion. I'm using the OEM fuel pressure regulator with an aftermarket pump. I believe it's an Aeromotive, but don't remember which flavor. You need 45psi out the pump. Mine is mounted on the rear crossmember using muffler clamps and rubber isolators.

I believe I opted for the exact same pump and factory FPR.

IIRC, the pump is from an late 80's F-250?

When my return line was plugged, this pump was building >70 PSI in the rail!!!

Once I fixed return line the FPR kept it right around 36 PSI in the rail.

BTW, has anyone found a way to install a fuel pressure gauge on or around the rail?

 

[tucker74]

You guys have a part number on that fuel pump? I've got the following list to check out:

MSD 2225 (not going with)
Bosch 910
Walbro GSL-392 (255)

There was also an Airtex pump someone mentioned, but didn't have a number. I'd like the Cressida part number as well

Tucker

 

[tucker74]

You guys have a part number on that fuel pump? I've got the following list to check out:

MSD 2225 (not going with)
Bosch 910
Walbro GSL-392 (255)

There was also an Airtex pump someone mentioned, but didn't have a number. I'd like the Cressida part number as well

Tucker

Did a little searching on napaonline for an '88 F250 and guess what came up? Airtex E2000 What both of you guys are using -

Tucker

 

[pappy]

Cressida, 23210-45060, $525.83 list.
Supra and Celica GTS, 23210-43040, $610.56 list.
Celica GT, 23210-35010, $493.13 list.

The pumps are basically the same. What changes is the bracket they are mounted to, and the connector. You will also need the high pressure hose and the damper.

 

[tucker74]

Cressida, 23210-45060, $525.83 list.
Supra and Celica GTS, 23210-43040, $610.56 list.
Celica GT, 23210-35010, $493.13 list.

Ouch - guess it's pick-n-pull or aftermarket for me

Tucker

 

[PabloCruise]

Cressida, 23210-45060, $525.83 list.
Supra and Celica GTS, 23210-43040, $610.56 list.
Celica GT, 23210-35010, $493.13 list.

The pumps are basically the same. What changes is the bracket they are mounted to, and the connector. You will also need the high pressure hose and the damper.

Wow! Toyota is really proud of those pumps...

I guarantee I did not pay that much for my pump.

BTW, I highly recomend pre-filtering the pump inlet (coming from the tank).

This will protect your pump from any debris in the tank.

I used a clear, low-pressure filter so I can monitor the debris build-up and also view flow. My flow was pretty static when the return line was plugged, and then when I cleared it I can view a lot of flow through the filter.

Now if anyone can help me with a fuel pressure gauge on the rail...

 

[PabloCruise]

Did a little searching on napaonline for an '88 F250 and guess what came up? Airtex E2000 What both of you guys are using -

Tucker

From Napa Online:

Fuel Pump - (Electric In-Line Type)
Product Line: Delphi Fuel Pumps

Part Number: DFP FD0029

Price: Price
Unit
:
:
149.00
Each

Warranty Free From Defects in Materials or Workmanship for 12,000 Miles or 12 Months Whichever Occurs First. Waranty Covers Original Purchaser & Their Business Customers. Review Warranty Statement in Catalog for Full Terms & Conditions.
Warranty PDF

Attributes Contents : Brass Fitting, Rubber Pad, 2 Small Metal Attachment Pcs., 2 Plastic Clips, 2 Washers, 2 Nuts
Fuel Pump Fitting Type : Threaded Fitting & Straight End- Fuel Line Is Push-On, Then Is Clamped
Fuel Pump Gallons Per Hour : 48
Fuel Pump Pressure Rating : 13.8 psi
Manufacturer : Delphi

 

[pappy]

I used this pump: Aeromotive 11109 - Aeromotive Inline EFI Fuel Pump. Note the 5/16" inlet and outlet. This doesn't work for some people, but worked for me.

 

[cruiserbrett]

BTW, has anyone found a way to install a fuel pressure gauge on or around the rail?

Easy(if the fuel rail is off): when you are at the junk yard, carry a 15mm IIRC box wrench. open the hood of a EFI GM car, some mid 90's buicks were the easiest donors, and look for the schrader fitting that is on the fuel rail. Its got a oring washer under it, so keep it.

Next time the fuel rail is off, drill into the fuel passage on the rail, and tap to 10mm x 1.5 IIRC. clean out all the drill chips, and install the scraeder fitting and any gm fuel pressure gauge/tester will screw onto it to test fuel pressure.

Dont have pics, but I harvested a few of the fittings from willing gm donors in the junkyards...

There are also banjo bolts for toyotas that have a 1/8" NPT thread that you could use for a pressure guage, but they are meant for the oem toyota fuel filter, so not sure if they would be useful to all.

 

[tucker74]

I used this pump: Aeromotive 11109 - Aeromotive Inline EFI Fuel Pump. Note the 5/16" inlet and outlet. This doesn't work for some people, but worked for me.

Sorry, wasn't clear when I posted ... the Napa AFP E2000/Aeromotive 11109 are the branded Airtex E2000 fuel pump if you do a little searching Thought PabloCruise was running that one as well, looks like he posted another Napa in-line part number (Napa brands multiple manufacturers as their own) -

Tucker

 

[mmw68]

Tucker - I have a spare no - name electric pump, that I was on the truck when Randy drove it to Dallas. Not sure why he did not use it, it works fine....it's your if you want it.

 

[BigSur]

Mark that is looking great....what are you going to use for drivetrain? stock 4 speed or are you putting in a 5sp?

I wanna be in the 3FE 40 club!!!

 

[tucker74]

Tucker - I have a spare no - name electric pump, that I was on the truck when Randy drove it to Dallas. Not sure why he did not use it, it works fine....it's your if you want it.

... SOLD!



Tucker

 

[quatrocantos]

Was your engine rebuilt recently?... I'm planning to change my engine to a big block. But still not sure maybe just rebuild the engine.


Keep up the excellent work Tucker!

 

[PabloCruise]

Sorry, wasn't clear when I posted ... the Napa AFP E2000/Aeromotive 11109 are the branded Airtex E2000 fuel pump if you do a little searching Thought PabloCruise was running that one as well, looks like he posted another Napa in-line part number (Napa brands multiple manufacturers as their own) -

Tucker

When I searched NAPA online for Airtex E2000, that is what it crossed over to...

I think we are all talking about the same pump.

 

[PabloCruise]

Easy(if the fuel rail is off): when you are at the junk yard, carry a 15mm IIRC box wrench. open the hood of a EFI GM car, some mid 90's buicks were the easiest donors, and look for the schrader fitting that is on the fuel rail. Its got a oring washer under it, so keep it.

Next time the fuel rail is off, drill into the fuel passage on the rail, and tap to 10mm x 1.5 IIRC. clean out all the drill chips, and install the scraeder fitting and any gm fuel pressure gauge/tester will screw onto it to test fuel pressure.

Dont have pics, but I harvested a few of the fittings from willing gm donors in the junkyards...

There are also banjo bolts for toyotas that have a 1/8" NPT thread that you could use for a pressure guage, but they are meant for the oem toyota fuel filter, so not sure if they would be useful to all.

I was wanting to do a permanent install vs. hooking up a test gauge.

Maybe going back to the Toyota filter with banjo bolt is the way. I could drill and tap that banjo bolt easier than the one on the coldstart injector.

 

[cruiserbrett]

russell 640700 is the banjo bolt with the female npt threads in the hex end. look here

 

[PabloCruise]

russell 640700 is the banjo bolt with the female npt threads in the hex end. look here

You rock man!


RUSSELL FUEL PRESSURE TAKEOFF BANJO BOLT
(For #640910, #641110 & #641120)
DESCRIPTION PART#
12mm x 1.25 with 1/8" NPT port 640700*
* Fits many Hondas and Toyotas

 

[pappy]

HEY, that is too cool! Thanks for the find.

 

[cruiserbrett]

Well, dont forget the 640913 banjo fitting that works with the stock or above mentioned banjo bolt on the fuel filter, and allows the use of AN fittings to plumb the rest of the fuel system from the filter to the pump... makes for a fast setup, without much hassle.

Russell's and earls have lots of fittings in metric thread to allow you to run an external pump with oddball threads to -AN fittings. explore the catalog...