...LC250 coupled by a slightly larger (something it should have had) tire...
Should have, could have.. but it doesn't

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...LC250 coupled by a slightly larger (something it should have had) tire...
Don't forget portals.
Also multiple articles claim the GX550 OT has 8.9" of ground clearance.
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No mud here.... IH8DUST
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That's the point - comparing anything stock to modified is comparing apples to oranges, regardless of how many get modified.Remind me how many Land Cruisers owners stick with stock tires, new or old Cruisers alike. The tires on the US spec LC200 were also dismal solutions. You didn't hear many bitching about it because again... remind me how many Land Cruisers owners stick with stock tire![]()
What’s that North Rim area like? We’re going to be passing through there in a few weeks and are debating on either a quick look at the big ditch or looking for camping on the north rim side and spending a couple days there before we head into Bryce and beyond. We don’t want to commit the time to get back there and get skunked on sites because of crowds.Reminds me of my trip to The Grand Canyon north rim last year.
About two hours on dusty dirt/gravel/rock roads that left a lingering cloud of dust (the ground hugging cloud along the center of the photo) after driving through.
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Left the back of my truck looking like this after half the drive (from highway to the rim)
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and like this after the round trip. Vermillion Cliffs National Monument in the background.
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For those wondering... there was a fresh coat of Rain-X on the rear window and it was cleaned at the gas station prior to the off-road adventure. Pretty incredible how the dust didn't really stick to the glass. But boy was that dust in all the nooks and crannies!
North rim is FAR less popular, therefore less crowded than south rim. I friend of mine in Phoenix who frequents the big ditch suggests Bright Angel Point as my destination next time I visit him and the area.What’s that North Rim area like? We’re going to be passing through there in a few weeks and are debating on either a quick look at the big ditch or looking for camping on the north rim side and spending a couple days there before we head into Bryce and beyond. We don’t want to commit the time to get back there and get skunked on sites because of crowds.
This is exactly what I was hoping you’d say. We’ll spend a little more time in the North Rim area before moving on.North rim is FAR less popular, therefore less crowded than south rim. I friend of mine in Phoenix who frequents the big ditch suggests Bright Angel Point as my destination next time I visit him and the area.
In Utah, Bryce Canyon is far less busy than Zion. I wouldn't dare try visiting Zion in the summer. I visited Zion in mid October and most parking areas were 80% full whereas Bryce was a piece of cake. I cannot imagine the zoo it becomes in the summer. If you plan to stop at several national parks, I suggest getting the national parks pass - $80 for one year good for as many visits as you please to all national parks.
As for my trip to the Grand Canyon north rim, from the highway (pavement) to the rim, I drove on stuff like this for an hour. Sand, rock, gravel, and everything in between. Certainly passable on street tires - I rode in my friends vehicle a few years ago - but so much more comfortable in squishy all-terrain tires aired down (18psi in my case) and not worried about every little rock slicing a tire. I did not see another soul the entire trip off the pavement - and it was glorious. Saw an occasional cow or two. Basically no cell signal; sometimes one bar.
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Approaching the rim...
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parked at the rim.
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If you visit SW Colorado, I highly recommend visiting Telluride and traversing Imogene Pass! Spend some time in Telluride; so many interesting shops and restaurants. Stop at Tomboy Mine on the way up the mountain. The trail up the mountain is perfectly and easily passable on stock 200 series. Again, doable on street tires with careful tire placement in many areas, but all-terrain tires much easier for peace of mind. I didn’t get to drive down the backside to Ouray so I cannot speak to that. From the myriad of YouTube videos, from Imogene Pass to Ouray, the only concern I developed is some of the drop offs are sizable to maybe scuff the stock rear fascia (bumper cover).This is exactly what I was hoping you’d say. We’ll spend a little more time in the North Rim area before moving on.
We’re skipping Zion all together, we went for our honeymoon in July 10 years ago and it was a mad house. We seek out remote but will camp at established if need be, which we are likely to do at Bryce. We’ll zig zag around up towards Moab then into Colorado to cool off before heading home.
Thanks for the deets, we’ll raise a glass in your honor over dinner at the ditch.
If you visit SW Colorado, I highly recommend visiting Telluride and traversing Imogene Pass! Spend some time in Telluride; so many interesting shops and restaurants. Stop at Tomboy Mine on the way up the mountain. The trail up the mountain is perfectly and easily passable on stock 200 series. Again, doable on street tires with careful tire placement in many areas, but all-terrain tires much easier for peace of mind. I didn’t get to drive down the backside to Ouray so I cannot speak to that. From the myriad of YouTube videos, from Imogene Pass to Ouray, the only concern I developed is some of the drop offs are sizable to maybe scuff the stock rear fascia (bumper cover).
A GoPro dash cam video I captured.
Isn't Bright Angel Point the busiest point on the North Rim? If you do go into that area, go to Point Sublime.North rim is FAR less popular, therefore less crowded than south rim. I friend of mine in Phoenix who frequents the big ditch suggests Bright Angel Point as my destination next time I visit him and the area.
In Utah, Bryce Canyon is far less busy than Zion. I wouldn't dare try visiting Zion in the summer. I visited Zion in mid October and most parking areas were 80% full whereas Bryce was a piece of cake. I cannot imagine the zoo it becomes in the summer. If you plan to stop at several national parks, I suggest getting the national parks pass - $80 for one year good for as many visits as you please to all national parks.
As for my trip to the Grand Canyon north rim, from the highway (pavement) to the rim, I drove on stuff like this for an hour. Sand, rock, gravel, and everything in between. Certainly passable on street tires - I rode in my friends vehicle a few years ago - but so much more comfortable in squishy all-terrain tires aired down (18psi in my case) and not worried about every little rock slicing a tire. I did not see another soul the entire trip off the pavement - and it was glorious. Saw an occasional cow or two. Basically no cell signal; sometimes one bar.
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Approaching the rim...
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parked at the rim.
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This build was at Overland Expo West last year! Hope there are a lot of LCs out there this year.
If you visit SW Colorado, I highly recommend visiting Telluride and traversing Imogene Pass! Spend some time in Telluride; so many interesting shops and restaurants. Stop at Tomboy Mine on the way up the mountain. The trail up the mountain is perfectly and easily passable on stock 200 series. Again, doable on street tires with careful tire placement in many areas, but all-terrain tires much easier for peace of mind. I didn’t get to drive down the backside to Ouray so I cannot speak to that. From the myriad of YouTube videos, from Imogene Pass to Ouray, the only concern I developed is some of the drop offs are sizable to maybe scuff the stock rear fascia (bumper cover).
A GoPro dash cam video I captured.
Great shots, I actually think I took the same one, or doggone close, to the 1st one just going the other direction… my hitched dragged a little.As I remember the back side of Imogene down to Ouray has some more technical spots than the Telluride side, but nothing @Artie's rig isn't set up to handle. Mine is similarly modded and I don't think I drug or scraped a single time. You might in this section if you have stock bumpers:
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It's a fun trail, pretty great scenery on both sides of the pass.
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Gorgeous pics!As I remember the back side of Imogene down to Ouray has some more technical spots than the Telluride side, but nothing @Artie's rig isn't set up to handle. Mine is similarly modded and I don't think I drug or scraped a single time. You might in this section if you have stock bumpers:
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It's a fun trail, pretty great scenery on both sides of the pass.
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If you visit SW Colorado, I highly recommend visiting Telluride and traversing Imogene Pass! Spend some time in Telluride; so many interesting shops and restaurants. Stop at Tomboy Mine on the way up the mountain. The trail up the mountain is perfectly and easily passable on stock 200 series. Again, doable on street tires with careful tire placement in many areas, but all-terrain tires much easier for peace of mind. I didn’t get to drive down the backside to Ouray so I cannot speak to that. From the myriad of YouTube videos, from Imogene Pass to Ouray, the only concern I developed is some of the drop offs are sizable to maybe scuff the stock rear fascia (bumper cover).
A GoPro dash cam video I captured.