Why are there so many FJ40's still for sale?

[Roastchestnuts]

I wonder if the release of the new Bronco will eventually kill the bubble on those. The new Land Cruiser doesn’t evoke the same passion as the 40. The bronco is marketed in the same rugged style as the early bronco and might where that crowd out. Maybe

I’d love a ‘79…

I have always loved the international scouts as well. they are bringing them back I heard. not international but I think volkswagen is the parent company. I wonder if this will bring the prices of them down. also dont even get me started on the new land cruiser prado. they missed the mark and could have competed with bronco with some sort of convertable 70 series looking thing. It would have been way cooler than what they came out with.

 

[sogafarm]

I have always loved the international scouts as well. they are bringing them back I heard. not international but I think volkswagen is the parent company. I wonder if this will bring the prices of them down. also dont even get me started on the new land cruiser prado. they missed the mark and could have competed with bronco with some sort of convertable 70 series looking thing. It would have been way cooler than what they came out with.

The new Scout will be electric but will look similar to the original.

 

[BOBWhite74]

The International Scout was one cool rig. I heard that some IH dealers would throw in a free scout to any farmer that bought a top on the line tractor or combine.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

The new Scout will be electric but will look similar to the original.

Yeah I heard the electric part. That will be kinda neat. I just want a company to come up with a cheep reliable electric kit to drop in classic cars like an a electric version of the SBC. The way things are going with electric vehicles this might be the way of the future for our old classics. I know a few companies have made EV fj40s but the price to do it is still way too high. For the foreseeable future I will be enjoying my old 2f.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

The International Scout was one cool rig. I heard that some IH dealers would throw in a free scout to any farmer that bought a top on the line tractor or combine.

I love the older 800 series ones. that slant 4 was pretty cool. Thats really awesome they would do that for farmers. A friend of mine had one when they were new and his issue was when he wanted to trade it in, he said it was difficult because it was hard to find a International Dealer in NC at the time and finding parts was hard. (probably just like the stories I have heard of finding parts for the fj40 before the internet)

 

[cims1970fj40]

I just found one that’s very reasonably priced and electric.

 

[kenjera]

My guess is that all the clowns that bought them as a novelty when the vid was around at inflated prices are now realizing that they aren't as "cool" as they thought. Now they're trying to flip them based on some imaginary inflated price they saw one sell on the internet for.

All the true Cruiserheads are all sitting back laughing now, waiting for $1,500 buckets again. Perfectly content turning wrenching on the old bucket they've had for 10 plus years.

I was country before country was cool.

l never seen a vid to entice me, l was looking to buy something 'engineered' rather than something modern (been there & wasn't impressed by the 04' Isuzu Trooper l've also had a Land Rover County a few years back) so l decided l wanted something older l can more readily work on, l almost bought an old 79' restored G Wagon (W463 unit) l changed my mind, tbh honest l'm glad l did.. The trucks more fun & l'm restoring much of the original parts.. weather seals etc...so l can get down & dirty with it.. if you know what l mean...

 

[patches84]

I picked up a 59 F100 shell to work on with my boy (now 12). Told him if he helped build it up it’d be his. He’s spent 3-4 hours total in the garage so far(2-3yrs). I hope it’ll change, but I’m trying to be realistic on the attention span in the world of phones.
Btw- he thinks the 40 is kinda stupid. Old, loud and cold. Accept when I let him drive- then he’s the only kid he knows who can drive a stick…

My o look older brother paid $100 for two beetles in 1986. Made one running college car. I think dad felt he over paid…

My son LOVES 40s. He came home from hospital in my 84 FJ40 LX and when we moved to America with it he helped me put it in the container in Australia with our house stuff and then he drove in it with me to Santa Fe from the customs house in Albuquerque when the container got here. (I'm Chamba here on Mud- the story is there- but I only seem to be able to log on to my older handle here for some reason) He has strong memories of it.
As for the truck, you have to think like a 12 year old boy: in the now. A shell of a truck isn't fun to him. A RUNNING truck is.
My son's Camaro has 48,000 original miles and I bought it from the original owner. He got to ride in it straight away, so all the labour we put in to it produces immediate results for him. The new suspension gave immediate results and he saw how rewarding his efforts were. The Dakota Dash was immediate, as were the Corbeau Z28 seats and Magnaflow exhaust.
I think a shell is great for an older kid, but I really think a running car is the bait you'll catch a 12 year old boy with. Build that awesome truck, but maybe buy a running one to reel him in. I would look at a Ranger or older Toyota Hilux that needs minor tinkering.

 

[Chamba]

My son LOVES 40s. He came home from hospital in my 84 FJ40 LX and when we moved to America with it he helped me put it in the container in Australia with our house stuff and then he drove in it with me to Santa Fe from the customs house in Albuquerque when the container got here. (I'm Chamba here on Mud- the story is there- but I only seem to be able to log on to my older handle here for some reason) He has strong memories of it.
As for the truck, you have to think like a 12 year old boy: in the now. A shell of a truck isn't fun to him. A RUNNING truck is.
My son's Camaro has 48,000 original miles and I bought it from the original owner. He got to ride in it straight away, so all the labour we put in to it produces immediate results for him. The new suspension gave immediate results and he saw how rewarding his efforts were. The Dakota Dash was immediate, as were the Corbeau Z28 seats and Magnaflow exhaust.
I think a shell is great for an older kid, but I really think a running car is the bait you'll catch a 12 year old boy with. Build that awesome truck, but maybe buy a running one to reel him in. I would look at a Ranger or older Toyota Hilux that needs minor tinkering.

Ah ha, I think I've finally gotten logged in to my Chamba account.......

 

[archie73]

My son LOVES 40s. He came home from hospital in my 84 FJ40 LX and when we moved to America with it he helped me put it in the container in Australia with our house stuff and then he drove in it with me to Santa Fe from the customs house in Albuquerque when the container got here. (I'm Chamba here on Mud- the story is there- but I only seem to be able to log on to my older handle here for some reason) He has strong memories of it.
As for the truck, you have to think like a 12 year old boy: in the now. A shell of a truck isn't fun to him. A RUNNING truck is.
My son's Camaro has 48,000 original miles and I bought it from the original owner. He got to ride in it straight away, so all the labour we put in to it produces immediate results for him. The new suspension gave immediate results and he saw how rewarding his efforts were. The Dakota Dash was immediate, as were the Corbeau Z28 seats and Magnaflow exhaust.
I think a shell is great for an older kid, but I really think a running car is the bait you'll catch a 12 year old boy with. Build that awesome truck, but maybe buy a running one to reel him in. I would look at a Ranger or older Toyota Hilux that needs minor tinkering.

Oh he loves the idea of the 59 running and driving. He tells his mom it’ll be “his” car. I occasionally remind him that “he” needs to put some equity into it.

Honestly, I’m not too worried if he does or doesn’t work on it. He’s a good kid and is pulled in bunches of directions, so finding time in the garage is problematic. I get to make all the decisions on design and he’s along for whatever I end up building.

Glad you found a project with your boy. Sounds fun!!

 

[kpz1234]

I deal in tangible investments and men's toy's is a huge part of that market and it's all on the downside lately. Guns, trains, cars.....all off their high. Available disposable income combined with a lack of time is significant. Add in the fact that younger generations want cheap stuff--cheap guns, cheap cars with fart cans, never heard of a toy train,....I could go on and on. The only thing keeping most of these markets alive is passion.

I wish this was true for the Scar 20S I bought a couple months ago. Some of the high value guns are still high.

 

[Chungas Revenge]

E.G.- As of 0430hrs this AM, there 2 40 series LC’s Live on BAT. One is a driver w/some issues, the other is a highly modified custom example belonging to a MUD member. Price/bidding is indicative of a buyers market. Good news if you’re in the market, not so good if you’re selling. So, if you suffer from MVS (Multi- Vehicle Syndrome) like most of us do, now would be a good time to think about adding one to the stable….If you’re so inclined. If you’re thinking of selling, it might be a good time to sit tight and weather the storm.

 

[Chamba]

E.G.- As of 0430hrs this AM, there 2 40 series LC’s Live on BAT. One is a driver w/some issues, the other is a highly modified custom example belonging to a MUD member. Price/bidding is indicative of a buyers market. Good news if you’re in the market, not so good if you’re selling. So, if you suffer from MVS (Multi- Vehicle Syndrome) like most of us do, now would be a good time to think about adding one to the stable….If you’re so inclined. If you’re thinking of selling, it might be a good time to sit tight and weather the storm.

But hands off the '76 43.... I'm Goldilocks dreaming of that one if it doesn't go stratospheric.

 

[Chungas Revenge]

But hands off the '76 43.... I'm Goldilocks dreaming of that one if it doesn't go stratospheric.

My word of honor .

 

[Kringle]

#Bidenomics

 

[gvxclassics]

Speculators have always been a problem with the classic car market. I work on the low end of the classic/repair market by advertising on Craigs. It brings me enough customers to always stay busy.
A lot of my customers come to me after hitting the buy it now button while their head is inserted. Then they can't beleive all that is wrong, or how much bondo their sweet ride is covered with (One car has lumps of bondo coming through the inner wheel well). I did everything for this customer but told him over and over that his muffler needed work (open seams blowing at starter), and after a complete new front end, he needed an alignment. He went absolutely nuts and told me that I will buy (a 66 nova, masquerading as an SS) his car, that I did not want.
He immediately put it up for sale and had phony bids on line. I told him it was worth maybe 3-5000. He already had $30K in it.

Other customers always decide on repairs based upon what they think they can get for it.
I built a 1941 Chevy truck from ground up, full resto, for about $70K, and While the owner loves it, I choke because I know that truck is only worth 20-25K.

Its a tough market. You have to buy what you love, and repair it based upon love for these beautiful creations.
Me, I drive an ugly 1981 Chevy truck that costs me nothing to operate (classic insurance and very cheap parts).

If you are worrying what your vehicle is worth, you are at the short end of the stick and are bound to be disappointed. You have to love the drive.

 

[gvxclassics]

Also, based upon my experience, buy what you want in perfect running condition and have it inspected FIRST. Plan on $3-4000 in upgrades immediately after purchase (tires, brakes, and other minor things it needs). If you don't have the extra repair cash, don't do it.

I do repairs for a living. No one is prepared for their new classic needing repairs and they are expensive. The truck you see in my photo is a fixer upper from a rust bucket, and it has cost its owner a lot. Perhaps, he should have bought a perfect one. Don't ask..

 

[Living in the Past]

Ah ha, I think I've finally gotten logged in to my Chamba account.......

Are you really back in New Mexico or still back in the South East? Read your previous posted and it sounded familiar. Chances of two members from both NM and Australia seemed highly unlikely.

 

[knuckle47]

Back in the early 1970’s there was a restoration shop in Hibernia, NJ my dad and I stopped by one day. He had a GORGEOUS Mercedes 540K fully restored worth 50K BACK THEN…. And another old Ford, again fully restored and a very simple car, worth about 5k. The owner of the Ford had this car in high school, proposed to his wife in this car…etc.etc. and no matter what….wanted it preserved for him.

At the time…he got $40.00 plus parts and he made a ton of stuff. I was 17 and working for $3.40/hr at Bamberger’s (a division of Macy’s) .

Now I see the BAT land cruisers not meeting reserve on many occasions

 

[FloridaLife]

I've been noticing that FJ40's in the classified section have not been selling recently and there seems to be a glut in the market. Are people not interested in owning the most iconic Toyota anymore or is it just a slow market that's keeping them from selling?

I bought a couple of good original examples last year after years searching for good affordable examples. Scouring the market lately and I'm seeing an abundance of good shape examples for mostly reasonable asking prices. Maybe its due to a slow economy or maybe just a coincidence that there are so many for sale right now.

For anyone who is in a position to purchase one for their collection, now seems to be a buyer's market. I would be interested to know what other's think but I've never seen so many available for sale. What's going on here?

$15-20K seems to be the sweet spot for good driver examples currently and there are several available.

One word explanation... Bidenomics. I can't even buy steaks or groceries like I used to.