Why are there so many FJ40's still for sale?

[fjwagon]

They drive like tractors, I tell people you may think it's cool to look at but most people get turned off after driving them. It takes a certain kind person to drive these 40's.
Personally I think interest rates put a damper on would be buyers. And everything has gone up in price from used parts to new parts and everything in between. All this things happen in cycles. I remember seeing really nice fj40 at the 7, 000 range and thought that was expensive back in the early 90's.

 

[pb4ugo]

@igotta40, that's a beautiful bus. A 76 was my 1st car and it looked exactly like that except for the white grill. It was my 1st off road vehicle too. By the way, I drove it for yrs and I'm 6'8".

 

[Roastchestnuts]

They drive like tractors, I tell people you may think it's cool to look at but most people get turned off after driving them. It takes a certain kind person to drive these 40's.
Personally I think interest rates put a damper on would be buyers. And everything has gone up in price from used parts to new parts and everything in between. All this things happen in cycles. I remember seeing really nice fj40 at the 7, 000 range and thought that was expensive back in the early 90's.

IT does go in waves. I am unsure we will see stupid low stuff for 40s anymore but the prices will come down and are. I remember seeing fantastic fj80 and fzj land cruisers for sale pre 2014 for dirt cheep. I remember seeing one when I was in collage sometime in 2011 for 1100 and it had 90k on it and no rust. Too bad I was broke then. Pre covid I bought my first land cruiser - a 1991 fj80 for 6300$ it had 160k on it. It was totaled in a roll over during covid and the insurance gave me 14500 and I thought that was crazy and awesome for me though. what was crazier is that I found a better deal on an imported kzj78 with low miles than I could find on a fzj80 or fj80 with similar miles at the time. this was in 2021 I believe.

Also when do you all think the first gen broncos will come down. The prices on those are insane. Unrestorable rust stains during the pandemic were going for 10k although I did see one recently for 7500 i think.

 

[knuckle47]

There are some excellent thoughts here. And the one that stands out to me, the most is that the boomers are aging and no longer able to wrench as they did years ago. I find myself in that exact same situation.

I bought my FJ40 Land Cruiser when I was 21 in 1974 and had several FJ40’s over those two decades. Life got a little in the way, I purchased a ‘75 FJ40 2 year ago to recapture those monumental fun moments I had loved so much as a young man. I am now completely immersed… I have some time, and a little extra cash and I am enjoying everyone’s here camaraderie and knowledge. It is one of the few places I go to for complete enjoyment and relaxation.

I saw this exact same thing happened to Harley Davidson in 1993. It seemed that everybody had to have a Harley to that I would go to biker events bike shows and general fundraising parties and the biker crowd was, well a biker crowd. The people were friendly somewhere a bit rough on the edges, but no one was fake about it. Then when you tried to buy a new Harley, there was a one year waiting list and finally a two-year waiting list and so many of them were sold just a few years later with less than 1000 miles several with only 500. There was a special niche market for people with a lot of extra money back then to say I have a Harley. The real Enthusiasts eventually made out well with that they were able to buy bikes at normal costs that were hardly used.

I too have been a guitar player, maker and collector for 63 years …. some of my family members have been stage performers with some really popular people of the 1940s some may have heard of . Rudy Valley and his Connecticut Yankees. James Cagney, and Billie Holiday. My grandfather and his brother were guitar and mandolin players. I had some collection of guitars as one of the other members here had mentioned about a friend…the arthritis in my hands makes them loads of fun to play ha ha ha.

I also had two Ford Thunderbirds 1957 fully restored and beautiful And a 1956 which is barely a half step behind that one. With my knee operation, getting into the 56 is impossible. It is sitting in my garage under a series of protective covers and going up for sale

I am wrenching on my ‘75 now but trust me …I am moving so slowly that what I might’ve done 10 years ago in three days now takes me over three weeks . The time I spend one hour bending and twisting to fit something and I feel wasted at 71, how much longer will I be out there driving and enjoying it. I have several opportunities to run to the supermarket and pick up a few little things. It’s only 3 miles away and running the Land Cruiser would be fun, but I gravitate to the Silverado with the heating pad for a seat. I live on a dirt road, it’s an adventure just getting to the street. My knee operation also severely impacted the ability to step on a clutch.

For me, the comment about boomers too old to wrench hits very hard. I admire so many of you guys out there having the abilities to lift and push and pull . Physically I told my wife yesterday I cannot believe how weak I have become in just nine months …sad ain’t it? If you guys fail to see me here for 3-4 months, check for 2 well-maintained Land Cruisers for sale…it means something happened.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

There are some excellent thoughts here. And the one that stands out to me, the most is that the boomers are aging and no longer able to wrench as they did years ago. I find myself in that exact same situation.

I bought my FJ40 Land Cruiser when I was 21 in 1974 and had several FJ40’s over those two decades. Life got a little in the way, I purchased a ‘75 FJ40 2 year ago to recapture those monumental fun moments I had loved so much as a young man. I am now completely immersed… I have some time, and a little extra cash and I am enjoying everyone’s here camaraderie and knowledge. It is one of the few places I go to for complete enjoyment and relaxation.

I saw this exact same thing happened to Harley Davidson in 1993. It seemed that everybody had to have a Harley to that I would go to biker events bike shows and general fundraising parties and the biker crowd was, well a biker crowd. The people were friendly somewhere a bit rough on the edges, but no one was fake about it. Then when you tried to buy a new Harley, there was a one year waiting list and finally a two-year waiting list and so many of them were sold just a few years later with less than 1000 miles several with only 500. There was a special niche market for people with a lot of extra money back then to say I have a Harley. The real Enthusiasts eventually made out well with that they were able to buy bikes at normal costs that were hardly used.

I too have been a guitar player, maker and collector for 63 years …. some of my family members have been stage performers with some really popular people of the 1940s some may have heard of . Rudy Valley and his Connecticut Yankees. James Cagney, and Billie Holiday. My grandfather and his brother were guitar and mandolin players. I had some collection of guitars as one of the other members here had mentioned about a friend…the arthritis in my hands makes them loads of fun to play ha ha ha.

I also had two Ford Thunderbirds 1957 fully restored and beautiful And a 1956 which is barely a half step behind that one. With my knee operation, getting into the 56 is impossible. It is sitting in my garage under a series of protective covers and going up for sale

I am wrenching on my ‘75 now but trust me …I am moving so slowly that what I might’ve done 10 years ago in three days now takes me over three weeks . The time I spend one hour bending and twisting to fit something and I feel wasted at 71, how much longer will I be out there driving and enjoying it. I have several opportunities to run to the supermarket and pick up a few little things. It’s only 3 miles away and running the Land Cruiser would be fun, but I gravitate to the Silverado with the heating pad for a seat. I live on a dirt road, it’s an adventure just getting to the street. My knee operation also severely impacted the ability to step on a clutch.

For me, the comment about boomers too old to wrench hits very hard. I admire so many of you guys out there having the abilities to lift and push and pull . Physically I told my wife yesterday I cannot believe how weak I have become in just nine months …sad ain’t it? If you guys fail to see me here for 3-4 months, check for 2 well-maintained Land Cruisers for sale…it means something happened.

I hope to be still doing it all like you when I am where you are in life. I am 33 and and get totally burnt out the next day after some of the big jobs I have done.

 

[knuckle47]

@roastedchestnuts. The best part at 33 and being pooped out is that the next day, you tend to recover and can do it all over again… I bent one 3/8 fuel line yesterday…4’ long with 2 SIMPLE bends…put a 37 degree flare for AN fittings at each end and didn’t have the energy to do the 2nd. My Sniper install is going on 3 weeks.

Granted, some of that delay has been not having the correct parts to continue so I do the armchair shopping thing and pick up some of the things I need online which takes a day or two to get here. I am so F’ing spoiled by the overnight Amazon service , that ordering something elsewhere that takes longer than two days to get here becomes an annoyance.

Some of the things have a check box: between 4am -8am. Sure!

 

[knuckle47]

Makes me laugh…my mom used to say… “At your age I could spit on a sidewalk and crack it”….she didn’t poop out until she was 88.

passed at 90. dad was 96, grandma 99…hopefully I’ll be bitching about it for another 20 years

Grampa and uncle Frank 1940’s
Mom and Dad dating. 1951

 

[RWBeringer4x4]

Mine is a two prong issue-
1- Lifes too damn busy between his school and sports and my job.
2- I may have made the project a bit to complicated- ifs/irs, slammed and electric drivetrain.

Don’t get me wrong he’s excited at the “idea” of the build, but the nitty gritty is tough to get him involved. He gets his permit at 14.5 yro here, so maybe that’ll light a fire under…

I think with kids (and very much, with myself) they key is breaking it down into manageable task with a defined "start" and "end" - ie: today, we're going to rebuild the carburetor. Today, we're going to learn how to do drum brakes. Today, we're going to tackle the shocks... etc. Hell, when I look at my FJ40, that I've had for 13 years, and think about what I still WANT to do for the project as a whole, I even get overwhelmed. My approach, largely because I started work in borrowed garages, is to set out to a task that should take no more than a day or two, and have it back on the ground and driveable when I'm done. Granted, things like the V8 swap correction and transfer case rebuild had to wait until I had my own garage, but in general, it kept things moving forward, without getting me overwhelmed at the whole undertaking.

All the above variables mentioned relating to prices coming down are probably true. The pandemic craziness couldn’t stay forever.

As for the younger generations and raising the next gen tractor keepers it’s on us! I’m a millennial (1990) and grew up with beaters that I fixed and maintained with my dad and grandfather all through high school. Those memories are ones I will never forget and will be sure to recreate with my kids to spark that interest and give them confidence to work on their own machines.

I will never get out what I payed for my fj40 over time. Thats ok though, I have loved every part of it and have learned so much that I can use the next time I rebuild or tinker on somthing. I have been looking at old willys jeeps latley or an m38a1 or Fj55 is the prices come down. Thats really awesome that your son built that van. it looks fabulous.

I think its a little bit of a culture shift back to moving to a city and not having a car/walkability that hurts the hobby. You are right though its us early 90s kids that will need to pass the torch. I also am a 1990 guy.


I hope to impart some knowlege of mechanical ness to my children when I have them.

So glad to see there's some 90's kids out there picking these up! I'm pushing 40 at this point, but at a lot of events I go to, I'm the only guy with some hair left, or at least hair with color.

They drive like tractors, I tell people you may think it's cool to look at but most people get turned off after driving them. It takes a certain kind person to drive these 40's.
Personally I think interest rates put a damper on would be buyers. And everything has gone up in price from used parts to new parts and everything in between. All this things happen in cycles. I remember seeing really nice fj40 at the 7, 000 range and thought that was expensive back in the early 90's.

1. I love how they ride - it is literally 100% what I thought it would be when I bought it. They are wobbly, clunky, top heavy, and badass.
2. Gotta remember inflation carries everything up too - I started saving for a FJ40 at 17 when I drove one of the farm hands' 76 at the dairy farm I worked at as a teen. I finally bought on when I was 25. I tracked values for almost a solid decade as a result, and they have ALWAYS been expensive. More than Jeeps, but less than classic broncos.

IT does go in waves. I am unsure we will see stupid low stuff for 40s anymore but the prices will come down and are. I remember seeing fantastic fj80 and fzj land cruisers for sale pre 2014 for dirt cheep. I remember seeing one when I was in collage sometime in 2011 for 1100 and it had 90k on it and no rust. Too bad I was broke then. Pre covid I bought my first land cruiser - a 1991 fj80 for 6300$ it had 160k on it. It was totaled in a roll over during covid and the insurance gave me 14500 and I thought that was crazy and awesome for me though. what was crazier is that I found a better deal on an imported kzj78 with low miles than I could find on a fzj80 or fj80 with similar miles at the time. this was in 2021 I believe.

Also when do you all think the first gen broncos will come down. The prices on those are insane. Unrestorable rust stains during the pandemic were going for 10k although I did see one recently for 7500 i think.

I don't think first gen broncos will ever come down much. They are a perfect example of what happens when the "collector/investor" types sink their teeth into a particular vehicle and snap up all the salvageable models. They are small enough in number that I think most of the good ones have been picked up, and the bad ones are all parts trucks for the good ones...

 

[70 FJ40]

I think there was a lot of Covid purchases wether new enthusiast or investor. Lots of people with extra time and money. Now the reality of normal life mixed with inflation and high interest rates is setting in. If a person is not accustomed to older vehicles or expecting it, these 40s are definitely not as fun to drive as a new cushy ride. And you definitely can't be in a hurry to go anywhere. There are many times I decide to take my new truck instead and I love the 40.
For most folks they have to be a 3rd vehicle. That equals lots of extra money for repairs, upkeep, insurance and restoration. So when expectation doesn't live up to reality the 40 gets the boot. And now not as many buyers as a few years ago. I for one have always had old rigs in my life. Growing up on a family ranch, my dad bought a '59 Ford pickup for irrigating duty. He still owns his '79 Ford pickup he bought new. And there were several others old trucks that came and went.

As far as kids go, both mine love my 40. My son has started going out and climbing in, pretending to go on drives and make "overlanding videos" like on YouTube. I'm planning to teach my daughter to drive with it this summer. She asked the other day, "Dad, when you die, who gets your Land Cruiser?" I told her "Whoever treats me best in my old age."

Getting them to help me wrench on it is a lot harder though. My daughter has a helpful personality. Not so much my son. But they both disappear pretty quick if I say "Who wants to help with the Land Cruiser today?" It's hard to instill a work ethic. All of my siblings and I love to work hard. I remember growing up, I couldn't wait to be old enough to be more helpful around the ranch. My Grandfather sold it nearly 30 years ago, though so my kids just don't tag along doing the daily work like I did with my dad and grandfather. It's hard to get them motivated to do anything not fun. I'm trying even though it's usually easier to just get stuff done myself. I say all this cause I think my wife and I are not the only ones struggling to instill a high work ethic in our kids. I see my siblings and freinds with some of the same trouble. And there are a lot of parents of this generation who aren't even trying. Screens and technology are soooo distracting.

Sorry. That got long. And maybe a bit off topic

 

[sogafarm]

She asked the other day, "Dad, when you die, who gets your Land Cruiser?" I told her "Whoever treats me best in my old age."

Great response!

 

[Roastchestnuts]

I think there was a lot of Covid purchases wether new enthusiast or investor. Lots of people with extra time and money. Now the reality of normal life mixed with inflation and high interest rates is setting in. If a person is not accustomed to older vehicles or expecting it, these 40s are definitely not as fun to drive as a new cushy ride. And you definitely can't be in a hurry to go anywhere. There are many times I decide to take my new truck instead and I love the 40.
For most folks they have to be a 3rd vehicle. That equals lots of extra money for repairs, upkeep, insurance and restoration. So when expectation doesn't live up to reality the 40 gets the boot. And now not as many buyers as a few years ago. I for one have always had old rigs in my life. Growing up on a family ranch, my dad bought a '59 Ford pickup for irrigating duty. He still owns his '79 Ford pickup he bought new. And there were several others old trucks that came and went.

As far as kids go, both mine love my 40. My son has started going out and climbing in, pretending to go on drives and make "overlanding videos" like on YouTube. I'm planning to teach my daughter to drive with it this summer. She asked the other day, "Dad, when you die, who gets your Land Cruiser?" I told her "Whoever treats me best in my old age."

Getting them to help me wrench on it is a lot harder though. My daughter has a helpful personality. Not so much my son. But they both disappear pretty quick if I say "Who wants to help with the Land Cruiser today?" It's hard to instill a work ethic. All of my siblings and I love to work hard. I remember growing up, I couldn't wait to be old enough to be more helpful around the ranch. My Grandfather sold it nearly 30 years ago, though so my kids just don't tag along doing the daily work like I did with my dad and grandfather. It's hard to get them motivated to do anything not fun. I'm trying even though it's usually easier to just get stuff done myself. I say all this cause I think my wife and I are not the only ones struggling to instill a high work ethic in our kids. I see my siblings and freinds with some of the same trouble. And there are a lot of parents of this generation who aren't even trying. Screens and technology are soooo distracting.

Sorry. That got long. And maybe a bit off topic

I am with you on the work ethic. I grew up having to fix my own stuff and having to work hard if I wanted something. These kids dont know the struggles in collage either. I lived of a can of black beans and a half bag of tortilla chips for 4 days when I overstretched my money before I got my pay check from my job that I had to pay for collage. I think its important to have experiences like that to understand and appreciate what you have.

My wife and I have discussed phones and when we have children. We have decided they wont have a phone until collage (or at the very least when they dont live in our home) and they will pay for them. Its harsh but they just dont need it. its so easy to get into things they shouldent at their age too. I also have seen all kinds of issues as a teacher with students that have phones. off topic as well sorry!

 

[Almill13]

The world is going to need help when the middle/9th/10th graders I teach are graduated. they are the laziest I have ever seen. They would not even know the direction of the tires moving when they were driving forward. There are a few exceptions but in general I am scared for the future.

My father in law is an engineer by trade but has been a technology teacher in the public school system for the past 16 years and he echo's what you stated. He sets up labs and workshops to help kids learn skills and show them you don't need a college degree to make a living that there are good paying trade jobs out there but 99% of the kids are too lazy or show no initiative to complete any of the work in his class. It's frustrated him so much that this is his last year teaching and he is getting back into an engineering position starting this summer. Yes, the future looks scary.

 

[wchevron]

I am with you on the work ethic. I grew up having to fix my own stuff and having to work hard if I wanted something. These kids dont know the struggles in collage either. I lived of a can of black beans and a half bag of tortilla chips for 4 days when I overstretched my money before I got my pay check from my job that I had to pay for collage. I think its important to have experiences like that to understand and appreciate what you have.

My wife and I have discussed phones and when we have children. We have decided they wont have a phone until collage (or at the very least when they dont live in our home) and they will pay for them. Its harsh but they just dont need it. its so easy to get into things they shouldent at their age too. I also have seen all kinds of issues as a teacher with students that have phones. off topic as well sorry!

Good luck with that. We thought the same thing, I think they ended up with phones end of middle school. By the time your kids turn 6, they will know how to use the phone better than you.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

My father in law is an engineer by trade but has been a technology teacher in the public school system for the past 16 years and he echo's what you stated. He sets up labs and workshops to help kids learn skills and show them you don't need a college degree to make a living that there are good paying trade jobs out there but 99% of the kids are too lazy or show no initiative to complete any of the work in his class. It's frustrated him so much that this is his last year teaching and he is getting back into an engineering position starting this summer. Yes, the future looks scary.

I teach Art. Prek - 12. its a very small school of 168 students. My HS class this semester are the worst. I have 7 students and 4 of them have grades below a C because they are too lazy to do the work. and they half ass everything. ITS THE EASIEST CLASS THEY WILL HAVE in highschool. My class is a class that should be a GPA booster.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

Good luck with that. We thought the same thing, I think they ended up with phones end of middle school. By the time your kids turn 6, they will know how to use the phone better than you.

IDK where I teach the school is moving twards removing the phones from students all together. I think I would compromise and lock the phones up in HS after 6pm in a safe haha. I am harsh but I really think they cause mental health issues. We have had a few suicide attempts because of things said over snapchat and text. I just dont want that experience for my children especially when they are in middle school. But maybe if we get them hooked on fixing a vintage land cruiser they can have their phones

 

[70 FJ40]

We waited until 14 for our daughter to get a phone. She is the last if her friends by several years to get one. It is currently not connected to internet and probably won't be for a while yet. It stay downstairs, out of her room at night. We thought it better to begin to teach her her how to handle a phone and it's related technology and connectivity slowly rather than just keep her away from them until she moves out and gets full access. Like them or not, phones like this are here to stay. And like teaching kids to drive parents should teach kids how to navigate the pitfalls of phones/internet/technology as best we can. @Roastchestnuts I too think they are causing way more problems in society than people realize.

Back on topic. I toured a private car collection with my brother a couple years ago. A friend was caretaker. 20 different cars probably. 30 million or so I would guess in value. I had always thought the older a car gets the more valuable it would be because it would become rarer and rarer. Turns out people want the dream cars they couldn't afford in their youth or cars that bring back memories from childhood. So cars tend to peek in value 40 to 50 years after they were new. Then they dwindle. A 70s Corvette is probably worth more now than the original 50s style. And not a lot of people clambering for cars from the 30s.

 

[ikarus]

I've been watching the market for a while. I have $10K cash ready to drop on one but the $5-10K 40s just need so much more work than say a $15-25K 40 in general. And as it will be a 4th car it's been hard to find a spot on the priority list over superchargers, new turbo for the diesel, wheels/tires, lockers, mountain bikes, track car, motorcycles yadda yadda

I just want a nice patina driver but at the end of the day I don't really have anywhere to drive it! haha. I can take it to the local mountains or take it on a relic run, but I'm so used to modern vehicles that it would take a significant change of habits and travel plans to take a 40 down to Moab vs my 80 or 200. I imagine there are a lot of others like me that would kill to have a 40 but it's hard to fit it into priorities. I do have a garage spot ready for one once I find the right one.

I checked out this one late last year and I really wanted to like it but it just had a little too much rust for me. The price was great - $7K if i remember right.

 

[CruiserTrash]

Man, what a great thread. I’m 41 and kind of slot in with some of your who are around the same age. My opinions aren’t too far off. To be clear I daily a 60, and my first 40 is inbound from out of state, arriving in a month. Both are things that took some hunting to find the right deal that fit my blue collar budget, both will be dirtbag budget builds, and both will never see a shop because I can not afford to not do the labor myself. I also have two kids who are in middle & high school, but the younger generation is a whole other ball of wax.

Ok, with that out of the way … the market. I collect vintage guitars like a few of you, the bug bit me at 14 when a friend dragged a battered bottom of the barrel Teisco out of her grandparents closet and gifted it to me. I now have some modest but cool pieces all acquired through a small initial amount of cash and lots of horse trading upwards. I’ve also seemed to always date (and get married to, and divorced from, and married again) girls who are into thrift store clothes - finding really nice vintage stuff. Both markets mirror Land Cruisers almost exactly.

I think going back 20-30 years there was a generation that was dying out. Maybe early boomers, or the tail end of the sock hop generation before them. As they passed away, all these old things they owned came up for sale stupid cheap or was donated to thrift stores. Their kids didn’t want to deal with mom & dad’s old junk. And it really was old junk - technologically inferior, out of fashion, generally undesirable by 99% of society. And none of it was worth much. With guitars, the 1965 Fender Duo Sonic I now own was a student model guitar. Nobody wanted that, it was embarrassing to own. In the 90s they wanted the latest and greatest. Nevermind that it has essentially the same pickups as a 60s Strat that was still somewhat desirable to tone snobs and people chasing SRV’s sound. Off to the thrift store it went. Same went for “dad’s old truck”, that rusting piece of liability parked out behind the garage that he was going to get back on the road “some day”.

Fast forward to maybe 2005-2015. The younger generations - myself included - are facing an entirely different economic reality than the older generations. And another generation was aging into the afterlife, their junk being hocked to thrift stores and estate sales. Well, folks of my age are looking at living expenses that have risen at a much faster rate than wages, going back to about the early 80s. We’re hungry to make ends meet. We see people with niche hobbies and realized they wanted that old junk. We saw gold. It didn’t take long for folks older than us to catch on too. Everybody thought they had gold all of a sudden. eBay hit at exactly the right time to foster a boom in prices on literally anything that was old.

This fueled some tulip-style speculation and insanity in the markets. I saw it happen with Land Cruiser prices in the 20-teens, reaching an incredibly stupid fever pitch during Covid. Guitars too. “Grandpa’s old rusting hulk is worth $20,000, I know what I got, no offers accepted, cash on the barrel head only, I’ve seen the prices online!” Shoot I remember trying to buy a 4Runner as early as 2012 or so. For a decently priced one you had to be at the seller’s house within 30 minutes with cash in hand ready to buy without even a test drive, or it was already gone. Early 2nd gen basket cases were going for $3000-5000.

So where’s it going? Hopefully down. I think there’s something to be said for the thin slice of 25-45 year olds who could afford wildly priced toy trucks during the pandemic finding out they actually weren’t as into leaf springs and lack of a center console screen as they thought. People still want the “latest and greatest”. The size of the center console screen in a vehicle has become a sales point. On the other hand, here’s the crux of my theory I’ve been working on for 10+ years: I think 99% of the “cool old stuff” - be it trucks, guitars, or whatever - is into circulation with enthusiasts and collectors. The previous generations that had those things are pretty much gone and the days of finding a crazy deal from the old farmer down the road are gone. For all intents and purposes, none of that stuff is hiding anymore - it’s all into circulation. And so prices will stay relatively high, if there’s a cooling in the market it ain’t gonna cool too far.

And if y’all think Land Cruiser prices are high, you don’t know anything about the vintage clothes market, which my partner tracks religiously. JC Penney house brand jeans (cheap crap when new) from the 70s that are in tatters, just massive holes and stains everywhere - maybe $200. Most of the pieces can’t even be considered clothing anymore haha, they’re just a series of thinly connected rags!

 

[CruiserTrash]

Sorry, that was way too long of a post. Have a picture of a guitar if you made it through the whole thing: my setup from a gig a few months ago. All acquired well below market value, most needing repair. Buying broken s*** is how I afford nice things. See my 60 and incoming 40 for examples

I really should start a vintage guitar thread in Chit Chat one day.

 

[Roastchestnuts]

I've been watching the market for a while. I have $10K cash ready to drop on one but the $5-10K 40s just need so much more work than say a $15-25K 40 in general. And as it will be a 4th car it's been hard to find a spot on the priority list over superchargers, new turbo for the diesel, wheels/tires, lockers, mountain bikes, track car, motorcycles yadda yadda

I just want a nice patina driver but at the end of the day I don't really have anywhere to drive it! haha. I can take it to the local mountains or take it on a relic run, but I'm so used to modern vehicles that it would take a significant change of habits and travel plans to take a 40 down to Moab vs my 80 or 200. I imagine there are a lot of others like me that would kill to have a 40 but it's hard to fit it into priorities. I do have a garage spot ready for one once I find the right one.

I checked out this one late last year and I really wanted to like it but it just had a little too much rust for me. The price was great - $7K if i remember right.

That 40 is not to bad when you squint.... I dont know If I would have bought it for 7 either. that paint job is mint though. Love the gasket masking haha. but in all honesty its not far off on the one I bought. almost same rust issues. The original white on this one is a good color and one of my favorites.