RuffStuff Rear Full Float Axel Flanges (1 Viewer)

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POPO AGIE said:
Full floating axles are rare in the States except for FJ80 axles.
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You spelled fzj80 wrong....the fj80 still had the semi float
 
There are benefits to having a ff axle.
  1. The hubs have 2 bearings and counteract thrust.
  2. If you break a rear ff axle shaft you can remove the broken shaft and get home.
  3. When the axle breaks your rear wheel does not get sent out into the sagebrush.
 
PoPo, they have 35 spline 9.5 lockers and you can get 35 spline drive flanges for the toyota hub so I am not clear on your post.
 
That may be true and I have not done the research. I had planned to use the 30 spline 9.5" differential that I have. For the way I would use my FJ40, it was not worth it to go to the expense of moving up to 35 spline. Now that I am older I hope I am wiser and not drive like it did as a young man and destroy my rig again. It all comes down to how much money you are willing to spend. I could justify going to 35 spline.
 
POPO AGIE said:
That may be true and I have not done the research. I had planned to use the 30 spline 9.5" differential that I have. For the way I would use my FJ40, it was not worth it to go to the expense of moving up to 35 spline. Now that I am older I hope I am wiser and not drive like it did as a young man and destroy my rig again. It all comes down to how much money you are willing to spend. I could justify going to 35 spline.
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peesalot said:
PoPo, they have 35 spline 9.5 lockers and you can get 35 spline drive flanges for the toyota hub so I am not clear on your post.
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They have 32 spline. From
The 100 series. 36 spline from
A Tundra 10.5. I am unaware of any 35 spline But I do have both 32 and 36. In my garage
 
I do know that you can have custom shaft splined in 35 spline
 
POPO AGIE said:
I have the hand brake on my split transfer case. I did not want drotors, only disc brakes on the rear axle I built. The only issue I had with with parking brake on the 4 speed transfer case was a leaking seal. I was able to take care of that problem with my very limited mechanical skills I had at that time. I will only have one drum brake to worry about.
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As I remember you are installing a 4 cylinder diesel engine? Did you move the transmission forward? If so you have better clearance to the torque behind the transfer case. My 65 FJ45 the torque tube is way back and shaped to cleare the driveshaft. Up to 9/73 the torque tube is not shaped to clearance the hand brake drum on the transfer case. 1/79 the tub changed on all 40 series so the fuel tank was larger and mounted below the tub. At that point the torque was right behind the fuel tank on all 40 series models. Toyota for what ever reason decide it didn't want to have a cable running back to the rear axle for a hand brake on the rear axle. Because of this no longer wheel base 40 series has the hand brake on the rear axle. This is also why a H55F was never installed at the factory on a long wheel base. The 8/80+ FJ45 and HJ47 were the only models that ever had a hand brake on the split transfer case. If Toyota had put the hand brake on the rear axle of the LWB the parte used to install a hand brake on their split transfer case would have never been available. Maybe not in the US believe an aftermarket brake drum is available for the split transfer case hand brake. Worn drums leaking on the hand brake is a common problem on the one piece and split transfer case. Not sure but guessing a speedy sleeve might also be an option to fix the leak. Problem with this leak pretty much makes the holding power of the oil soaked brake shoes for less effective.
 
suzuguru said:
Hey, I'm all for buying one, if I can find one. I've been calling Cruiser Parts all day and can't get them to answer the phone. I left them a message, and sent them an email. So far nothing but crickets.
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Contact @cruiseroutfit or Valley HyBrids/Cruiser Brothers @orangefj45 regarding trying to source a FF housing/axle. They aren't geographically close to you but are great sources for parts.
 
suzuguru said:
Hey, I'm all for buying one, if I can find one. I've been calling Cruiser Parts all day and can't get them to answer the phone. I left them a message, and sent them an email. So far nothing but crickets.
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read up on the them...normally i try my best to steer people away from them.....but this is one of the few times i'll even speak their name.
funny story...the last ff i ordered from them...they sent a semi floater.....then argued with me that i didnt know the difference between the two, and they are hard to tell apart just looking at them externally......
 
Living in the Past said:
As I remember you are installing a 4 cylinder diesel engine? Did you move the transmission forward? If so you have better clearance to the torque behind the transfer case. My 65 FJ45 the torque tube is way back and shaped to cleare the driveshaft. Up to 9/73 the torque tube is not shaped to clearance the hand brake drum on the transfer case. 1/79 the tub changed on all 40 series so the fuel tank was larger and mounted below the tub. At that point the torque was right behind the fuel tank on all 40 series models. Toyota for what ever reason decide it didn't want to have a cable running back to the rear axle for a hand brake on the rear axle. Because of this no longer wheel base 40 series has the hand brake on the rear axle. This is also why a H55F was never installed at the factory on a long wheel base. The 8/80+ FJ45 and HJ47 were the only models that ever had a hand brake on the split transfer case. If Toyota had put the hand brake on the rear axle of the LWB the parte used to install a hand brake on their split transfer case would have never been available. Maybe not in the US believe an aftermarket brake drum is available for the split transfer case hand brake. Worn drums leaking on the hand brake is a common problem on the one piece and split transfer case. Not sure but guessing a speedy sleeve might also be an option to fix the leak. Problem with this leak pretty much makes the holding power of the oil soaked brake shoes for less effective.
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The truck was not where I left it when I realized there was a problem. I pulled the drum and pulled the seal and replaced it and installed new brake shoes and whatever was in the kit. I never leaked again so I did not need a speedy sleeve.
 
brian said:
read up on the them...normally i try my best to steer people away from them.....but this is one of the few times i'll even speak their name.
funny story...the last ff i ordered from them...they sent a semi floater.....then argued with me that i didnt know the difference between the two, and they are hard to tell apart just looking at them externally......
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The bolt on rear cover is a dead give away.
 
brian said:
read up on the them...normally i try my best to steer people away from them.....but this is one of the few times i'll even speak their name.
funny story...the last ff i ordered from them...they sent a semi floater.....then argued with me that i didnt know the difference between the two, and they are hard to tell apart just looking at them externally......
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Sounds like ordering from them would be a real gamble. Not to mention that I can't stand companies that don't answer their phone.
 
You also have the option to put a freewheel hub on if you choose, but did not, so I put Diamond axle drive flanges on mine. Just waiting for the shafts to show up and the rear axle will be complete.
 
Yeah, I actually like the idea of putting a free-wheeling hub on the rear. You get a lot of double-takes with that. My Suzuki Samurais had semi-floating axles, but I always mounted my extra hubs on the back, and people always thought I had a Samurai with a FF rear axle. It was pretty amusing.
 
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