Yeah it’s there. Just covered in brake dust.
rear brakes over adjusting..... (2 Viewers)
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NeverGiveUpYota
Dare me.
I second his observation. Def doesn’t look like it. Hey those c-clips... can I get new ones at any auto parts place? I reused one side clips abd didn’t feel right about it. Might as well get in there since I’m still down and replace.
EscapeWagon62
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OK - Since you have a horseshoe clip in place, your issue lies someplace else. There is no reason for that pin to be moving. It could be that it is not properly set on the other side of the brake shoe backing plate. My guess is that they are aftermarket having had a bad fit previously with aftermarket. I put in OEM which had the pin already set (the aftermarket required that I pond in the pin.
Check that first AND put the washer behind the adjuster wheel and you should be good to go.
Check that first AND put the washer behind the adjuster wheel and you should be good to go.
EscapeWagon62
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Honestly you should be fine with reusing the clips. I know they would be available stand alone but as long as they hold tension you should be fine. They are holding very little pressure the way the mechanism operates.
Thanks! And I’m glad to see that the thread revival is helping others. I installed a washer and replaced my bell cranks this week but it’ll be a few weeks until I’m able to say whether it has worked or not. I’ve put about 100 miles on it and so far so good. There was still a little bit of wobble room with the washer that I used but I’m sure the adjuster is in better shape than before.
You can get them at any auto shop AFAIK. I bought some this week from O’Reilly although I had to ask because they keep them in the back. I’m impressed that you were able to reuse them, I usually destroy them when removing them. Although... I’m impatient and I live three blocks from O’Reilly so I’m not exactly careful with such things.
EscapeWagon62
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A little wobble is perfect.
It allows the adjuster arm to reach up the star wheel a little to maintain the self adjust feature when using the emergency brake but keeps the adjuster from reaching too high on the star wheel.
fingers crossed or you but confident it will solve your issue.
@EscapeWagon62 I went back out last night and I think you were right, i can wiggle that pin with my fingers. New toyota shoes are on the way. I'm glad to hear about the c-clips as well, @NeverGiveUpYota mine came in the generic drum brake rebuild kit from autozone, but I have a feeling i'm going to destroy the new ones when I take these off.
g-man
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I just replaced my brake shoes, hardware and wheel cylinders. After a few short trips and several more cranks on the hand brake, the adjuster over adjusted to the point that the brakes were smoking and grabbing/vibrating going down the road. The adjustor got really tight with the pressure of the shoes pinned against the drum. I thought I would never get it loose. It wouldn't move either direction. I eventually got it loose prying very hard with a flathead screwdriver while releasing the adjuster lever with a small screwdriver. I put the washer behind the adjuster lever and seems to shim it out a bit. Hopefully this works. Obviously the pin on the aftermarket shoe has too much space on it behind the groove where the E clip sits.
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g-man
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I'd suggest if you replace your shoes with anything but OEM toyota ( not even sure they are available) ...you may as well shim this lever.
The washer shim appears the be working for me! My shoes are advics from @cruiseroutfit so the recommendation to shim the adjuster on any non-OEM shoes seems like a good one to me @g-man.
EscapeWagon62
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I put a shim on even with OEM.
My assumption is that the aftermarket pin is only part of the issue. I think that hole on the star wheel lever gets widened out over time allowing it to over rotate.
I could be wrong butIve had zero issues since installing the washer and using OEM pads.
My assumption is that the aftermarket pin is only part of the issue. I think that hole on the star wheel lever gets widened out over time allowing it to over rotate.
I could be wrong butIve had zero issues since installing the washer and using OEM pads.
So is the answer to replace the adjuster?
g-man
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No, the adjuster is good. The lever is working too much. Pull the E-clip off the lever that touches the adjuster dial. remove it and put a washer behind it on the pin. shimming it out a little means it will grab less. Check out the pics on page 3 of this thread, post #44.
Just as a point of reference, I replaced the shoes with Toyota shoes, put new hardware back on without the shim and so far I have not had a problem with it over adjusting. I don’t drive it a ton, so I will report back if it does over adjust. It seems like the loose pin on the aftermarket shoes was my problem.
g-man
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the pins on my aftermarket Japanese shoes from Cruiser Outfitters were NOT loose but I do think maybe there is a difference in the pin shoulders. If anyone replaces their aftermarket shoes with Toyota it would be nice to see a close up image of the two pins. Measure of the distance from the shoulder the lever rests on to the clip slot would be good too. Also as mentioned here it could be the levers are worn and flopping around more.
I’m using advics from CO. The pins weren’t loose but I found that they did need to have the washer shim added to prevent over-adjusting.
Can the levers you mentioned be easily replaced?
g-man
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Partsouq shows them available. They are left and right hand specific so make sure you order the right one.
